Comments on: Early Morning Swim: Maddow on the GOP Playing the Race Card http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:31:53 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: theresa43 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942282 theresa43 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:16:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942282 <p>It’s a little late to respond to you, but yes, I was outraged with Shuster,who would not let his guest Charlie Pierce finish one sentence. Pierce was trying to make the point that it wasn’t just the internet that make these outrageous stories flourish, it was the media who embemlishes and keeps stories alive. When he made reference to Whitewater and Swiftboat, Shuster would have none of it (he’s media, of course) and took over the whole conversation and steered it to the conclusion he(Shuster) wanted. I used to respect him, but he isn’t a very good journalist. Not like Rachel Maddow — not even close.</p> It’s a little late to respond to you, but yes, I was outraged with Shuster,who would not let his guest Charlie Pierce finish one sentence. Pierce was trying to make the point that it wasn’t just the internet that make these outrageous stories flourish, it was the media who embemlishes and keeps stories alive. When he made reference to Whitewater and Swiftboat, Shuster would have none of it (he’s media, of course) and took over the whole conversation and steered it to the conclusion he(Shuster) wanted. I used to respect him, but he isn’t a very good journalist. Not like Rachel Maddow — not even close.

]]> By: AngelsAwake http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942251 AngelsAwake Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:27:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942251 <p>You’ve got a fascinating- and terrifying!- point! If this is the situation, then what can we, as progressives, do to counterbalance it?</p> You’ve got a fascinating- and terrifying!- point! If this is the situation, then what can we, as progressives, do to counterbalance it?

]]> By: torgo2009 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942214 torgo2009 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:08:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942214 <p>I loved that one too.<br /> Crime does not pay….or at least not for very long.</p> I loved that one too.
Crime does not pay….or at least not for very long.

]]> By: torgo2009 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942210 torgo2009 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:32:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942210 <p>Very well said!</p> Very well said!

]]> By: Mithras61 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942208 Mithras61 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:48:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942208 <p>The problem with the TX BoE changing the textbooks is that as goes Texas (in re textbooks) so go many other states. If they succeed in making the textbooks here reflect their ideology or religious beliefs, that change will have a huge impact on education across the country (and yes, they know it - that’s why they’re doing it here-now). By undermining reality-based education in TX, they undermine it elsewhere. The thing is that many other states’ textbooks are the ones approved by the TX BoE!</p> The problem with the TX BoE changing the textbooks is that as goes Texas (in re textbooks) so go many other states. If they succeed in making the textbooks here reflect their ideology or religious beliefs, that change will have a huge impact on education across the country (and yes, they know it – that’s why they’re doing it here-now). By undermining reality-based education in TX, they undermine it elsewhere. The thing is that many other states’ textbooks are the ones approved by the TX BoE!

]]> By: torgo2009 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942207 torgo2009 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:45:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942207 <p>By electing Obama as president I figured we’d see smoother race relations but it seems to have gone in just the opposite direction. It’s certainly has nothing with what Obama has done but……….<br /> There was the Gates thing of course and more obscure things like the City of Detroit complaining about malt liquor ads.<br /> It’s all strange and sad.<br /> By the way this may be a bit unrelated but did anyone hear why the Black Pathers in Phily got off on the voter intimidation charges? I never heard a good explanation.</p> By electing Obama as president I figured we’d see smoother race relations but it seems to have gone in just the opposite direction. It’s certainly has nothing with what Obama has done but……….
There was the Gates thing of course and more obscure things like the City of Detroit complaining about malt liquor ads.
It’s all strange and sad.
By the way this may be a bit unrelated but did anyone hear why the Black Pathers in Phily got off on the voter intimidation charges? I never heard a good explanation.

]]> By: Crosstimbers http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942205 Crosstimbers Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:31:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942205 <p>What I was asking you to do is to remember, if you see it occur, conservatives have found that reason goes out the window on certain issues. If those become the basis of an election, reason is portrayed as elitist and a big part of the electorate swings off to the right. Some of the problems we have now help focus people on reason, but that degenerates fast once people start calling names. Otherwise, there would have been no Civil War, no U.S.-Mexico War, no Spanish-American War, no Great Red Scare, no McCarthy Era, no George W. Bush Administration. Review the attention given to reason in those events. </p> <p>Have a nice day.</p> What I was asking you to do is to remember, if you see it occur, conservatives have found that reason goes out the window on certain issues. If those become the basis of an election, reason is portrayed as elitist and a big part of the electorate swings off to the right. Some of the problems we have now help focus people on reason, but that degenerates fast once people start calling names. Otherwise, there would have been no Civil War, no U.S.-Mexico War, no Spanish-American War, no Great Red Scare, no McCarthy Era, no George W. Bush Administration. Review the attention given to reason in those events.

Have a nice day.

]]> By: RevBev http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942203 RevBev Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:28:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942203 <p>I’m afraid you will be almost correct. Don’t like those taxes, you know, esp. for $$ to go to all the illegals who may be in our schools. Yes, self-defeating, but we’ve got GuvBig-Hair to show us the way.</p> I’m afraid you will be almost correct. Don’t like those taxes, you know, esp. for $$ to go to all the illegals who may be in our schools. Yes, self-defeating, but we’ve got GuvBig-Hair to show us the way.

]]> By: bonkers http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942199 bonkers Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:20:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942199 <p>Just leftovers fighting for every last bit they can get. Not to be so morbid, but I feel like the Fox Newz audience, they’re just going to have to die off (yes, they’ve infected some younger people still, but they’re numbers are so small in the younger generations).</p> <p>Nothing’s going to change their minds now, and their whole way of thinking and life is completely threatened now, so they’re feeling back into a corner and will lash out like never before. Just like a rat.</p> Just leftovers fighting for every last bit they can get. Not to be so morbid, but I feel like the Fox Newz audience, they’re just going to have to die off (yes, they’ve infected some younger people still, but they’re numbers are so small in the younger generations).

Nothing’s going to change their minds now, and their whole way of thinking and life is completely threatened now, so they’re feeling back into a corner and will lash out like never before. Just like a rat.

]]> By: ghostof911 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942197 ghostof911 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:20:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/24/early-morning-swim-maddow-on-the-gop-playing-the-race-card/#comment-1942197 <p>Don’t quite follow your argument, but I don’t see any need to convince or strongarm anyone of anything. Progressives present ideas because they make sense, and they appeal to the reasonable judgements of others to get them to agree. It the opposition succeeds in a given election because of ruthless tactics, the progressive position is not affected by it. It will continue its appeal to reason the next election cycle.</p> Don’t quite follow your argument, but I don’t see any need to convince or strongarm anyone of anything. Progressives present ideas because they make sense, and they appeal to the reasonable judgements of others to get them to agree. It the opposition succeeds in a given election because of ruthless tactics, the progressive position is not affected by it. It will continue its appeal to reason the next election cycle.

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