Comments on: The least surprising information ever

By: Kitt

Kitt — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:05:39 +0000

Thanks. That’s good news. I’m looking forward to reading/hearing the smack down.

By: ThingsComeUndone

ThingsComeUndone — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:46:52 +0000

Emptywheel and probably Hugh from Hugh’s list are on it:)

By: Kitt

Kitt — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:31:01 +0000

Shouldn’t someone be assigned to take down Yoo word for word, sentence for sentence, lie for lie every time he has the audacity to take up the WSJ on their open offer to fill it’s pages with yet another screed of bald faced lies? In fact, how come there isn’t a line around the block of knowledgeable volunteers for taking on that task? Yoo is one of the few people on Earth who I find as repulsive as Dick Cheney.

By: ThingsComeUndone

ThingsComeUndone — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:07:14 +0000

Look who gained from it Pakistan certainly got a lot they otherwise would not have gotten. But I am open to ideas about who gained the most.

By: SanderO

SanderO — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:04:54 +0000

We don’t know who was behind 911… we are told that 19 mostly Saudi and Yemini nut cases who were in AQ carried this out because OBL told them to. No proof if OBL was behind it… or the ISI or anyone for that matter.

By: SanderO

SanderO — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:03:01 +0000

Hillary is a national security lapdog or puppy/. She wants that pat on the back for the old boys. ata girl.

By: Bilbo

Bilbo — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:02:14 +0000

What my friend liked about him was his ability to do deep textual analysis. But I suspect that meant finding stuff in the text that wasn’t really there.

Yes, that’s what Strauss did. He found support for his beliefs in the classics. Ted V. McAllister has written the seminal work on the philosophy of Strauss and his ilk: “Revolt Against Modernity: Leo Strauss, Eric Voegelin, & the search for a Postliberal Order”. It’s a serious academic work though and not exactly light reading.

But, a basic grounding in Strauss is absolutely critical to the understanding of what has happened to this country (and the world) over the last 60 years.

By: SanderO

SanderO — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:01:52 +0000

It occurred to me that those in the administration with the power to direct investigations and or start prosecutions of the possible wrong doing of previous administrations don’t do it because they don’t want it done to them. Each administration, not being as transparent as they should, get themselves into questionable actions which they justify as the power of the presidency and the “mandate” from the people.

Obama seems to be carrying on many of the very questionable policies / activities of the Bush administration and would be held to the same level of accountability. They are not going to dig into stuff that they are engaged in.

Why are they doing weird stuff? My sense it is some sort of blackmail/pressure from the MIC / national security state which is the shadow government with an unaccountable agenda and they want to keep it that way. At the bottom… behind the curtain… people are making huge amounts of money and transparency would rain on their parade.

We’re being robbed, and bled.

By: ThingsComeUndone

ThingsComeUndone — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:00:38 +0000

I wonder if Pakistan threatened Bush with an other 9/11 attack if he didn’t pay them billions, sell them weapons, relax an import ban related to their nuclear program.
Thanks to 9/11 Pakistan got a lot of stuff they wanted and we never got Ossama. I think Bush caved to blackmail.

By: ThingsComeUndone

ThingsComeUndone — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:56:47 +0000

Under FISA, to obtain a judicial wiretapping warrant the government is supposed to show probable cause that a specified target is a foreign agent. Unlike, say, Soviet spies working under diplomatic cover, terrorists are hard to identify. Yet they are vastly more dangerous. Monitoring their likely communications channels is the best way to track and stop them. Building evidence to prove past crimes, as in the civilian criminal system, is entirely beside the point. The best way to find an al Qaeda operative is to look at all email, text and phone traffic between Afghanistan and Pakistan and the U.S. This might involve the filtering of innocent traffic, just as roadblocks and airport screenings do.

http://online.wsj.com/article/.....inion_main

John First of all we don’t care if you spy on Pakistan this is a Strawman argument how you got a law degree without learning you argue and defeat the other sides best not the weakest case I will never know.
We care that Bush was spying on us.
Also John why did Bush bother spying on Pakistan when he NEVER sent any troops after Osama? Nope Bush sent Pakistan/Ossama Tribute Pakistan’s intelligence service created the Taliban and helped set up Al Quieda.
Giving money to Pakistan’s government then the people who pay the guys who helped create Al Quieda is TRIBUTE.