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	<title>Comments on: Early Morning Swim: Elizabeth Warren on Rachel</title>
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		<title>By: stonecutter0602</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/15/early-morning-swim-elizabeth-warren-on-rachel/#comment-1936340</link>
		<dc:creator>stonecutter0602</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On 6/30, Maddow had about 37% of Sean Hannity’s total audience during her 9pm broadcast, and roughly 36% of viewers age 25-54 compared to Hannity. Her share of this coveted age group has dropped 55% since 4Q/08, in just 6 months.  Why? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apparently, 8 years of Bush’s alternate universe also infected TV viewing habits in general, and cable news and opinion in particular.  Along with irredeemable crap like Big Brother, American Idol, Big Fat Losers, Desperate Houswives, CSI: Miami and so on and on, younger Americans have drifted so far to the right in their world view, especially since 9/11, that they now prefer to listen to, and perhaps agree with reactionary windbags like Hannity or Limbaugh, rather than the wonkish, often smug but rational commentary of someone like Maddow.  Or maybe it’s just that younger viewers in the more sophisticated cities have left TV in droves for the internet, leaving guys like Hannity to pick up this cohort in the more politically right-wing enclaves of the south and west. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whatever the real reasons, Maddow is essentially preaching to the choir, and it’s a smaller and smaller choir every month. She could end up on the broadcast equivalent of a milkbox in London’s Hyde Park, but she’d likely be cancelled before that happens. Despite the depth and complexity of the issues she intelligently confronts and the quality of the guests she invites on her program, her audience seems turned off by something.  Her handlers at MSNBC ought to figure out what that is and fix it, before it becomes moot.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 6/30, Maddow had about 37% of Sean Hannity’s total audience during her 9pm broadcast, and roughly 36% of viewers age 25-54 compared to Hannity. Her share of this coveted age group has dropped 55% since 4Q/08, in just 6 months.  Why? </p>
<p>Apparently, 8 years of Bush’s alternate universe also infected TV viewing habits in general, and cable news and opinion in particular.  Along with irredeemable crap like Big Brother, American Idol, Big Fat Losers, Desperate Houswives, CSI: Miami and so on and on, younger Americans have drifted so far to the right in their world view, especially since 9/11, that they now prefer to listen to, and perhaps agree with reactionary windbags like Hannity or Limbaugh, rather than the wonkish, often smug but rational commentary of someone like Maddow.  Or maybe it’s just that younger viewers in the more sophisticated cities have left TV in droves for the internet, leaving guys like Hannity to pick up this cohort in the more politically right-wing enclaves of the south and west. </p>
<p>Whatever the real reasons, Maddow is essentially preaching to the choir, and it’s a smaller and smaller choir every month. She could end up on the broadcast equivalent of a milkbox in London’s Hyde Park, but she’d likely be cancelled before that happens. Despite the depth and complexity of the issues she intelligently confronts and the quality of the guests she invites on her program, her audience seems turned off by something.  Her handlers at MSNBC ought to figure out what that is and fix it, before it becomes moot.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/15/early-morning-swim-elizabeth-warren-on-rachel/#comment-1936250</link>
		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seconded.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seconded.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/15/early-morning-swim-elizabeth-warren-on-rachel/#comment-1936249</link>
		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Blue Texan for drawing attention to one of Obama’s best selections. Warren is terrific.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Blue Texan for drawing attention to one of Obama’s best selections. Warren is terrific.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell60</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/15/early-morning-swim-elizabeth-warren-on-rachel/#comment-1936248</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really like Elizabeth Warren.  She kind of reminds me of Paul Krugman; in both cases, they were hired due to their impeccable credentials, but dismayed their bosses by actually using that intelligence to assist and inform the American people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like Elizabeth Warren.  She kind of reminds me of Paul Krugman; in both cases, they were hired due to their impeccable credentials, but dismayed their bosses by actually using that intelligence to assist and inform the American people.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Many of the smartest ones&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of the smartest ones</p>
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		<title>By: Crosstimbers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/15/early-morning-swim-elizabeth-warren-on-rachel/#comment-1936242</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosstimbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So, what kind of lavish praise and income increases will be necessary to get investment bankers to stay in this country?  We may be able to funnel a greater portion of the nations wealth, real or borrowed, in that limited number of hands, but there are limits to praise and genuflecting we can stomach.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WWII, with deficit government spending and regulation on private enterprise to an extent which dwarfed New Deal programs, had something to do with the end of the Great Depression.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what kind of lavish praise and income increases will be necessary to get investment bankers to stay in this country?  We may be able to funnel a greater portion of the nations wealth, real or borrowed, in that limited number of hands, but there are limits to praise and genuflecting we can stomach.</p>
<p>WWII, with deficit government spending and regulation on private enterprise to an extent which dwarfed New Deal programs, had something to do with the end of the Great Depression.</p>
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		<title>By: sad4america</title>
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		<dc:creator>sad4america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Goldman was more or less forced to take the money. Their balance sheet reflects that as does their ability to pay back the loan in full so quickly. I agree they should not have gotten any money, but to be mad at them is foolish, our elected representatives that made these decisions are the ones who did and continue to screw us over. They are not all that intelligent and I would say many don’t give a shit. They get their pay, which continues to increase during a “recession” not to mention the lavish benefits and retirement. Yes all on borrowed money, the American People’s money, where is the outrage at ever expanding government and lack of responsibility there. Companies and people can lobby all they want but these people must make the final decision and they continue to make shitty ones all the while passing the blame onto a shinking base of American Business’, could that be another reason they have no problem leaving this country because they are mercilessly bashed???&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldman was more or less forced to take the money. Their balance sheet reflects that as does their ability to pay back the loan in full so quickly. I agree they should not have gotten any money, but to be mad at them is foolish, our elected representatives that made these decisions are the ones who did and continue to screw us over. They are not all that intelligent and I would say many don’t give a shit. They get their pay, which continues to increase during a “recession” not to mention the lavish benefits and retirement. Yes all on borrowed money, the American People’s money, where is the outrage at ever expanding government and lack of responsibility there. Companies and people can lobby all they want but these people must make the final decision and they continue to make shitty ones all the while passing the blame onto a shinking base of American Business’, could that be another reason they have no problem leaving this country because they are mercilessly bashed???</p>
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		<title>By: i4u2bi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/15/early-morning-swim-elizabeth-warren-on-rachel/#comment-1936236</link>
		<dc:creator>i4u2bi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A rotten apple spreads it’s fruits over many generations.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rotten apple spreads it’s fruits over many generations.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;the burden to pay is falling increasingly on the workers who are most at risk of losing jobs, homes, and pensions/retirement funds.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About whom GS couldn’t care less.  People should have realized when Volcker was Fed chair that only the big financial institutions are worth consideration.  Greenspan and Bernanke share(d) the same views.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the burden to pay is falling increasingly on the workers who are most at risk of losing jobs, homes, and pensions/retirement funds.</p>
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<p>About whom GS couldn’t care less.  People should have realized when Volcker was Fed chair that only the big financial institutions are worth consideration.  Greenspan and Bernanke share(d) the same views.</p>
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		<title>By: Crosstimbers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crosstimbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, my 36 was meant to respond.  Additionally, I find their reproductive process interesting, but prefer ours, irrational and inefficcient though it may be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, my 36 was meant to respond.  Additionally, I find their reproductive process interesting, but prefer ours, irrational and inefficcient though it may be.</p>
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