And oh yeah Dick Cheney was ordering a whole bunch of illegal shit.
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But it’s OK for Pat Buchanan to go on Morning Joe and suggest killing Levi Johnston. . .that just merited lots of laughs.
MSNBC–Murder: LOL; BJ: OMG!
The FCC would’ve fined Howard Stern for less. Heh!!!!
707!
Seems like it was Shuster who had a verbal malfunction during the primaries.
Go Marcy!
I’d be fine with Howie staying on his couch for a couple of decades–with his yap shut!
When the GOP could make a — literally — federal case out of a BJ, it is now bad to just say the word? Are you kidding me?
“…sure she wants to apologize for her choice of words?” Bwahahahahaha!! This is why I don’t watch the toobz. Urk.
Marcy and her shooting fish in a barrel exposition.
Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
That poor little choir boy looked like he might faint! HA!!
Hey Marcy! They inferred your apology. What else can they mind-read?
There’s a lot of faint chatter going on in the background after Marcy delivers the truth. And Shuster couldn’t end the segment fast enough. Sure indicates a major freakout in the MSNBC studios.
And oh yeah, what’s with Shuster’s idiotic “family show” comment? They covered the sordid details of Ken Starr’s pornographic witch hunt for days and days, from sun up to sun down.
But…but…investigating teh Clenis was okay, because that was during his administration.
That’s the rule, according to the always glib and douche-like Matt Lewis.
as usual the MSM missed the main point.
so easily distracted.
ADD at MSM
Why didn’t they put Marcy on with WaPo’s Joby Warrick (just on) instead of that townhall tool? Then they could discuss substance in detail instead of that drive-by he-said/she-said.
Should Marcy had used a more appropriate euphemism to satisfy the Village?
“They called for a special prosecutor when President Clinton gave Monica Lewinsky a throat exam.”
Go Marcy!
Ken Lay = Deceased Enron crook
Ken Starr = Star chamber prosecutor of blow jobs.
RULE OF LAW
… also, blowjob.
I feel violated…
for having clicked that link and having Kurtzy’s Tweet on my computer. You really should warn us when a link takes us to such a vile place. I’m sure you apologize for that, right?
Oh snap. Rule of Law. So succinct. I love it.
Oops, d’oh! I was wondering why there weren’t a lot of lay/blowjob jokes out of the whole thing. Of course I meant Ken Starr.
mt: thought you may like this from Democracy Now:
Report: CIA Had Secret Assassination Plan
The CIA is also coming under increasing criticism for failing to inform Congress about a highly classified targeted assassination program started by the CIA after Sept. 11. According to the Wall Street Journal, the program focused on the CIA’s attempt to capture or assassinate terrorists. The Journal reports the CIA spent money on planning and possibly some training. It was acting on a 2001 presidential legal pronouncement, known as a finding, which authorized the CIA to pursue such efforts even though the Ford administration had banned assassinations in the 1970s. Congress only learned about the program last month when President Obama’s CIA Director Leon Panetta ended the initiative. Senator Dianne Feinstein appeared on Fox News Sunday. She didn’t describe the program but confirmed reports that Vice President Dick Cheney had ordered the CIA to withhold information about the program from Congress.
Dianne Feinstein: “The answer is yes, Congress should have been told. We should have been briefed before the commencement of this kind of sensitive program. Director Panetta did brief us two weeks ago, I believe it was on the 24th of June, said he had just learned about the program, described it to us, indicated that he had canceled it and, as had been reported, did tell us that he was told that the Vice President had ordered that the program not be briefed to the Congress.”
This does not mark the first time the Bush administration has been accused of carrying out targeted assassinations. Earlier this year investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said publicly the Bush administration ran an executive assassination ring that reported directly to Vice President Dick Cheney.
Seymour Hersh: “Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination wing, essentially. And it’s been going on and on and on. And just today in the Times there was a story saying that its leader, a three-star admiral named McRaven, ordered a stop to certain activities because there were so many collateral deaths. It’s been going in—under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or to the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving.”
According to Hersh, the program was carried out by the Joint Special Operations Command, or JSOC. The former head of JSOC, Stanley McChrystal, is now Obama’s top commander in Afghanistan.
Mr. Roark! Da blogger, da blogger!!
I’m relieved Shuster apologized.
I assume that what Marcy should have apologized for was her use of the terms, “rule of law.” I don’t think Republicans have been allowed to say that for 8 years. Shameless woman.
“Unprecedented nature” of looking back at a former administration? What a false framing.
Thanks for the warning.
O/t – merchandise just arrived from Healin’ Hollers.
Here it is again, on Progress Not Congress, with some commentary.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2152
We can thank that theme on Gerald Ford’s pardon of Nixon.
Plus all the folks who hated the Church Commission revelations.
Yes. Tsk! Tsk!
Marcy !!! My hero !!
These cable guys have been wallowing in 24/7 coverage of Republican wide stances, airport solicitations, page predators, sexual escapades and lovers’ letters for the last two years, and nobody apologized for them or the Republicans.
Did I hear that giggling buffoon say that Eric Holder was part of the executive branch?
Since when?
Edited to replace ‘dip’ with ‘giggling buffoon,’ a much more fitting descriptor. (Credit: Kitt)
I think Marcy’s timing with the use of the word blowjob” was quite direct and useful in that it made a mockery of what the giggling buffoon was trying to use as his non sequitur excuse about Panetta supposedly having only recently discovered the information, and how that was supposed to somehow have some bearing on whether or not investigating years of law breaking by Cheney would be appropriate.
Anything but utter ridicule and exasperation expressed by Marcy at the giggling buffoon’s comments would have been inadequate. If I were the giggling buffoon I would be seriously hoping that Marcy’s use of the word “blowjob” does not result in the video going viral. Because, “blowjob” aside, the guy made an ass of himself.
Well, so what about the Cheney stuff if there’s wild, hot sex to be investigated?!
I forget, did Bill Clinton ever ask his mama to pay that blowjob gal $96,000 (in $12,000 IRS-non-traceable portions) to shut her up? Cause I think some politician did that…. musta been Big Dog… ‘cept his mama wasn’t that wealthy…
I’ll ponder some more and get back to you.
Funny, I didn’t even notice the blowjob part. I was listening to the actual point she was making. Silly, silly me.
Didn’t Shuster compliment Jane onece for having a “clean” website? Now this!!! Tsk. tsk.
Seriously, i thought blowjob was ok. I can remember when nobody said “sucks” ’cause it meant… you know….. sucks. Now you hear it all the time-especially from “cute” kids. Shuster,lighjhten up, man,”blowjob’ is OK. maybe he’s expected to do what he did or just thought he was.
And it’s ok to blather on about the endless need for justice from our drones blowing ( close word) up funerals and weddings indiscriminately and the need for 4000 Marines to bring a reign of death and terror to an innocent ,uninvolved population to stop terror.
Good God Woman Please don’t bring up B*****b in a mixed socially advanced company.
That’s worth a contribution to the Marcy Wheeler fund all by itself.
That was Rick Sanchez of CNN when he had Jane on to talk about Rick Warren (prior to the Inauguration) with the “clean” website stuff.
Hey Scarecrow, I just edited this so you can see how my Republican friends read a comment like yours.
Well, actually, they read it like this:
As you can see, that degree of ability to perceive what they want to perceive — as opposed to say, ‘objective reality’ — kind of ends up on a constant barrage of misinformation. But it does help explain how the Sarah Palins of the planet continue to think well of themselves… (*sigh*)
As the Attorney General and head of the DoJ, yes Eric Holder is a member of the Executive branch of government.
Marcy, you’re the best! I’m so glad your on our side.
I’m so glad you’re on our side.
“You are in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man alive.”
–Robin Williams, Good Morning Vietnam
Thank goodness she didn’t talk about a republican senator keeping his hand on a guys inner thigh.
Marcy Rocks!!!
Kossacks please recommend: Emptywheel Says “Blowjob” on MSNBC
Thank you, Marcy, for surprising the Villagers by using the correct terminology.
Blowjob. Blowjob. Blowjob. Blowjob. Blowjob. Blowjob. Blowjob. Blowjob.
Marcy did not apologize for it on air, Cable Gal, so don’t put words in her mouth Cable. Dick Cheney told a sitting Senator to “Go Fuck Yourself” on the floor of the Senate simply because he was irritated at his political opponent and losing his argument as well as his cool. Dick Cheney raped the rule of law and constitutional government and didn’t say thank you or leave a tip.
Republicans didn’t apologize for spurting out their claims against Bubba in every media venue imaginable for several years, keening that the sky and the government would fall because a Beltway politician engaged in a sexual act with someone other than his spouse.
The GOP ran sexual innuendo laced ads of the grossest kind at the last several elections. Daytime and nighttime cable contains equally sexually explicit scenarios in images, but without the language.
The Beltway and the media aren’t prudes, quite the opposite. They simply refuse to call what Villagers do by the correct names. They get explicit only when someone else does it or they can make money at it rather than embarrass their patrons. Torture isn’t torture when one of them do it; neither is illegal domestic spying and raping the rule of law.
But when sitting GOP Senators routinely have sex with prostitutes and find it erotic to defecate in their diapers, that’s a venial sin that can be atoned for with two Hail, Mary’s, a gentle mea culpa and no questions asked. Same for soliciting same sex encounters in airport restrooms. Same for having midlife crises on national television, pouting for a missing sexual partner at a news conference with one’s wife standing nearby or listening in nearby room. That’s family values entertainment and the behavior of solid, respectable, Serious citizens.
It’s pretty funny watching Greenwald make fun of Howie on Twitter over this.
They really wanted Marcy to apologize for uttering the words “rule of law”.
This is the station that advertises endlessly about erectile dysfunction, erections that last more than four hours and they are worried about “blowjob?” Oh, please!
I am really, really unhappy at the notion that looking back at prior possibly illegal conduct by government officials – or anyone else in or outside Wall Street – would “distract” from the president’s agenda.
It.Is.His.Agenda.
That is, if he’s fulfilling his oath of office and his constitutional responsibilities. Enforcing the rule of law is his primary task, along with preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution. It’s not some voluntary, one Sunday a month gig he can skip as he likes because he’s too tired to get out of bed.
Hahaha. If Cialis was perscribed to help cause blowjobs, no one would have to apologize.
All criminals hate it when the law comes calling. Ask John Dillinger or Al Capone.
That they don’t like it is usually a required sign that someone is actually doing their job. Ask someone from internal audit, the IRS or the SEC. Oh, wait, Bush let many of them go and gave the rest not much to do and little to do it with.
Bravo Marcy!
Rule of Law…who knew this was not a kid-friendly phrase?
Hey the whole Bush Administration was one great Big “BlowJob”!! They all desreve to be in jail yesterday. If it had been a Democratic Administration the Repukes would be screaming for BLOOD!!
One more from Glenn Greenwald:
Yes. It’s so old hat. Robber Barons dispensed with it years ago, but it keeps coming back like a constitutional dandelion.
LMAO!
have just kicked in another $25.
OK I’m sending Marcy another $25.00. She will hit the 150,000 by Friday.
Marcy is mentioned also at The Raw Story for her insightful analysis of Cheney’s little secret!
hey there!
all right, I admit it, I like saying “blow job” and I just like them in general
there, I said it
glad I got that off my chest, I feel redeemed
If everyone on T.V. talked like normal people generally talk, there’d be no need for all the “analysts” to interpret what’s been said. I don’t think anyone will have any trouble understanding what EW was saying, although all the media tight asses will now focus on the “blowjob” reference to avoid acknowledging that her argument makes perfect sense.
I responded “You can’t say Clinton?”
BLOWJOB??? On The TEEEE VEEEE???
And you censor my postings?
Bwaaaahhhhhaaaaahhhhhaaaa!!!!
I loved it – stick it to them.
They’ll also use it as an excuse not to invite those freakish, disrespectful, nasty left-wing bloggers on their nice airwaves anymore.
hey teddy!
O swooon, that’s funny. That pill trash is on my tv every night talking about “when the moment is right.”
For whatever it was with Bill Clinton, we had an idiot Special Prosecutor with selacious leaks for months, his X-rated report, and an impeachment. But for W’s lying us into war, torture, and murder… we’ve got zip and he’s back on his cul de sac….There is some s’plaining to do. Can someone accuse him of a blowjob?
ok, I think we need a little diversion
amazing stuff right there
Can we talk on television about the “N” word-laced diatribes the GOP generates to undercut Mr. Obama’s legitimacy? How about the sexually explicit derogatory comments used to misdescribe Mrs. Clinton over, say, the past twenty years?
Apologies, Bonkers. I should’ve warned you.
And I thought a cunning linguist was an Irish airline until I switched vodkas.
Oh, and how delicately did daytime cable cover the Eliot Spitzer sex for money scandal?
American media so is hypocritical. Television readily shows the most alluring bodies and poses and dialogue to sell everything from coffee to toothpaste to underwear to erectile dysfunction pills. It readily shows war torn bodies. But partial nudity, even breastfeeding, is too indelicate an imagery to broadcast.
Outstanding. Hope you like!
Republicans maintain (im)plausible deniability through the use of glory holes. For example, Dubya would place his executive branch in a hole in the wall, feel something warm and wet but not SEE what was happening. A few minutes later Larry Craig, Condi, or Barney would walk into the room. Emission Accomplished!
There is no upside to using language like that. None. There is only downside.
See? This is how it works, folks. You cna investigate a blow-job but you can’t say “blow-job.”
And as we all know “Whitewater” was tasteful and “family-oriented” from first to last.
Marcy, be sure to tell this sleazebags that you DON’T regret a single word you said!
I post once in two years, only to make an ignorant fool of myself. Back to lurking where I belong.
The next thing we know, she’ll be saying “torture” in public.
Nah, now don’t do that. Just hang out, share the experience and occasionally make an error.
It happens to all of us from time to time.
Dood,
I only comment occasionally and always make a fool of myself but I don’t care. This is a fun place to hang out and the folks are generally tolerant. In other words, don’t lurk. Jump in all the time.
Marcy Wheeler your my hero.
The Horror!
But I’m sure she’ll apologize. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!
This whole feinting episode is so funny I had to make a little widget to track it. http://awe.sm/Trz
Maybe I should change the title to “oh, the horrors!”
I betcha Rich Lowry sat up straighter.
A debate about whether to prosecute crimes of the previous administration is a “daytime family-oriented TV show”? Right, so the toddlers are sitting on the floor in front of the set watching to see if Dick Cheney will be investigated in a “closed-door grand jury setting”?
The emperor has had a massive wardrobe malfunction.
The upside to using direct language like Marcy’s is to break the stranglehold on framing and purportedly “polite” and “acceptable” discourse that the GOP-favoring MSM and the GOP itself have. That is, when it is used appropriately and in the appropriate context.
Marcy is an expert rhetorician and parser of language. She didn’t use “blowjob” as an expletive or a throwaway remark. She didn’t not say it but use such repetitive explosive innuendo that it left a greater rawer mark on the viewer’s imagination than if she had.
She used the word correctly to describe the sexual act that Bubba denied and which the GOP spent years trying to impeach him for. She used direct language to mock the absurdities of her debating partner’s own logic and choice of words.
She captured attention in an appropriate way. It was as much a direct attack on the MSM’s false political as well as false sexual prudery, which debases public discourse far more than Marcy’s explicit language. If the MSM and Bush’s FCC appointments had their way, NPR’s funding would come only from the RNC and rule of law and open, representative government would both be four-letter words.
But not too quickly. That didn’t work too well for O’Really when he was trying to get to know his staff.
Not exactly, no “blowing” should occur if memory serves. It’s always been inaccurate.
Well, that was one beauty of a blowjob. Thanks Marcy.
Hey, I buy from HH, too. Great products.
I disagree. Because she actually said blowjob far more people will hear the rest of what she said now.
After listening to and enjoying Shuster’s comments on teabagging some time back one does have to wonder about MSNBC’s standards.
Shuster’s comments were only funny if you also knew that teabagging meant sticking one’s testicles in another’s mouth. If you knew that then the entire monologue was rude.
Telling someone to “suck this” is a rude epithet only if one realizes the speaker is exhorting another to him a blowjob. Otherwise it is simply nonsensical.
A stained blue dress is significant only if one realizes the stain referred to ejaculate left by the President. And I do believe the MSM made it very clear that that was indeed its significance.
who is this Joe Blob fellow and why is he so scandalous?
Ms. Wheeler that was awesome! It’s a good thing the republics aren’t in power or the fcc would be all over your ass….so to speak though I’m sure it would be phrased differently or not who can say. I guess it is OK to impeach a sitting President for a blow job as long as you don’t use that phrase or something I don’t freaking know.
As attorney general, Holder is part of the executive branch as is the DoJ, State Department, Treasury, FCC, FAA, FDA, etc.
Earl, I think you’re over-analyzing. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes a vulgarity is just a vulgarity.
I know you don’t want to hear this, but that comment reflected poorly on Marcy Wheeler, on FDL, and on Progressives in general — just as Dick Cheney’s famous vulgarity reflected badly on him and on his party.
But we all make mistakes, so the best we can do is acknowledge them and try to do better tomorrow.
Bionic, please see above.
We can’t acknowledge the past if we only look forward. Or does that only apply to president’s unwilling to do their jobs?
I don’t think Marcy’s diction was a mistake. I’ll take my analysis over the schtick and hypocrisy that Limbaugh and O’Really? will use to claim that only they are right-mouthed enough to share the airwaves when what they sell is fear and loathing.
I agree that it was ill-advised. Whether or not it really is a vulgarity isn’t particularly relevant. The problem is it offers opponents an easy out. Instead of being forced to refute her argument they can focus instead on the fact that she said a naughty word.
Earl, in rebuttal, allow me to quote what Katherine Hepburn so brilliantly said in The African Queen (which was on TV last night):
“Nevertheless.”
Precisely.
You forgot your harumph harumph
That poor schmuck and his “can’t go there, can’t do that” Marcy just quietly destroyed him. He did appear to get quite excited by the word she used though.
so blowjob is an offensive word? what a world!
Yeah it sure wasn’t on my list of no-no’s.
Who knew?
Marcy’s use of the word “blowjob” was the perfect word choice to stop the snowjob coming from Eddie Haskell or whoever the guy was.
Are you talking about the Blower or Blowee ?!!
Lol, I am STILL cackling!!
You go lady!!
My hero!
Me? I prefer “enhanced oral ’suasion” or some derivative, because, you know, well — we can’t have anchors fainting, dead away, during reeeeeeaallly important moments — before the entire cabled-nation.
I mean, we can’t be worried about death squads, now — with mental images of lips on shaft, all over the darn inter-tubes. Darnit.
I think wonkette nailed it tonight.
Really — do go read hers, here.
Namaste
This thread started out blowing, now it’s starting to suck. I’m gonna go wash my eyes out with soapy water! [g]
Well I never!
They’d never post anything like this over on FreeRepudlic!
Oh, poor American sensibilities will never be the same. Grow up America.
You mean “Talking Penis Guy”? That’s Matt Lewis from Townhall.com.
OT, but very annoying…
Anybody having problems with links on the front page getting redirected to a blank page on sitemeter.com? This started last week, and it’s driving me batty.
She said “blow job”!
They’re kidding, right?
Go MARCY!!!!
Oh that Marcy
:)
Seriously though, MSNBC suits and bluenosed busybodies alike – Lighten up with the language police act.
It’s not like there’s still some fellatio-unfulfilled ‘puritan’ in office looking to harass ideologically non-compliant corporations by fair mouth or foul.
Is there?
;>)
Shouldn’t Mr. Kurtz also be apologizing for his self gratifying remark (nee mental masturbation) that MSNBC is a “family oriented cable network.” I for one would never offer that hypocrisy to a live audience. The preening whine of the villagers has no limit apparently.
Thank God for Marcy Wheeler. Without her the world would be insane.
As if the prosecution is presumed to be motivated by partisan interests and not the rule of law and statute of limitations… a natural concern of those who would politicize career hires at the DOJ.
Uttered by those who cheered Cheney’s politicization of the DoJ to start with.
Marcy Wheeler is my new hero (well, heroine)!! If the language slip was intentional it was brilliant, getting the issue and point of view out in the blogosphere. Who remembers what the Republican strategist had to say or even who he was?
If it was unintentional, it was nevertheless what everyone has been thinking about the Clinton impeachment.
Those who publish Mr. Kurtz should do the apologizing. I could almost excuse him if he was equating his own or David Brooks’ work to literal masturbation. Or should I have said, “figurative” in order to avoid the double entendre.
Even the proctors at Monica Goodling’s alma hater know what the term means. That anyone familiar with Dick Cheney should be shocked, shocked by the reference requires an inability to process Mr. Cheney’s own vocabulary (try his proscription to Democratic Senators) and a naivete akin to Lil’ Orphan Annie’s.
Marcy could have used the words oral sex. If you get too emotional on main stream media you get excluded from it. How many times do you see Jeanine Garofalo on MSNBC?
It’s hilarious that the media in-crowd are more shocked than Captain Renault at Marcy’s correct word choice to describe what the GOP claimed most shocked them about Bill Clinton’s term of office. I suspect what really bothered them is that he had sex without having to pay for it and with someone of the opposite sex, rather than an acolyte in some private club.
These same folks frequently inhabit boating and country clubs, where “retreads” are divorced men on the prowl, and “penis mobiles” are they low slung, high horsepower, inevitably convertibled road cars they drive.
Miss Hepburn was tutored by the reclusive, testosterone-driven Howard Hughes and the brilliant, but alcoholic Spencer Tracy. She was intimately familiar with the term and the practice. Had it been the most appropriate word choice – she had many to choose from – necessary to make her point most deliciously, she would not have hesitated to use it, in real life if not on television.
That David Brooks, for example, couldn’t stop tittering at the thought, and that he wouldn’t dare use it himself, does not make him more cultured or intellectually honest or the politics he sells less brutal.
It’ll probably increase their viewership. Marcy had better reconsider this tactic as it might help MSM instead of bloggeria.
Is that a joke? Too much emotion=kicked off BigMedia?
Please. JoeScar, Pat Spewcannon, all of Pox Newz, etc. have outbursts daily. I mean real freakouts and all sorts of outrageous stuff, such as Spewcannon’s recent calling for the Wrangling and murder of Sayrah Paylin’s sorta son-in-law.
People really need to start understanding that BigMedia does NOT want people on-air that bust up the Conventional Wisdom the BigMedia owners work so hard to create. They want and NEED John Q. Nascar to continue voting in politicians who will enact legislation that hurts Mr. Nascar’s own self-interests. Otherwise, and educated electorate will radically alter the entire gamed system.
They throw some bones here and there so they can claim they’re legit news organizations, but the second someone like Marcy or Garofalo do something they can seize upon, they use that as an excuse to get them kicked off for the most part using standards they do not apply to the BigMedia fluffers who fill 98% of the air-time.
Marcy, Jane, etc have difficult times getting air time not because they’re too emotional. It’s because they’re too dangerous.
First it was the wardrobe malfunction, now the mouth-malfunction.
Everyone has had one. Relax.
I hope this prompts LOTS of contributions to the Marcy Fund.
A good way to encourage more of “such language.”
Wow! I can’t believe Marcy said Dick Cheney and DOD in the same sentence on live TV. Call-in the FCC…and Howie Kurtz.
The look on the faces of david, tamryn, and the clownhall idiot was priceless. It’s rare for them to hear the truth. Way to go Marcy!
remark
Too emotional? WTF. Are we to suppose that you never see Amy Goodman or Bill Moyers on MSNBC because they’re too emotional? And that Pat Buchanan is not “too emotional?” Wow, am I ever confused!
Marcy, just watched and am sending money to your fund! WELL SAID!!!!!
And she looks like she’s passing a kidney stone throughout the segment.