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	<title>Comments on: Bernie Sanders on Effective Healthcare Reform</title>
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		<title>By: xargaw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/11/bernie-sanders-on-effective-healthcare-reform/#comment-1934188</link>
		<dc:creator>xargaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Senator Sanders has more integrity than anyone in the Senate. He is honest and speaks his mind 100% of the time. This country would be so much better serviced, if the other 99 had just a little bit of Sanders committment in them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Sanders has more integrity than anyone in the Senate. He is honest and speaks his mind 100% of the time. This country would be so much better serviced, if the other 99 had just a little bit of Sanders committment in them.</p>
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		<title>By: KellyCDenver</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/11/bernie-sanders-on-effective-healthcare-reform/#comment-1934116</link>
		<dc:creator>KellyCDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Woops - thought this was a live blog with the Senator, but it ain’t. Anyways, stay cool Bernie - you rock on this issue.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops &#8211; thought this was a live blog with the Senator, but it ain’t. Anyways, stay cool Bernie &#8211; you rock on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/11/bernie-sanders-on-effective-healthcare-reform/#comment-1934105</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;WELCOME SENATOR!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SO glad we have someone like yourself in the senate talking the real talk, the talk of our founders, you are among my very favorite senators and I ESPECIALLY enjoyed your smack dialoque with greenspan, demonstrating even to alan himself that the policies the he adopted had the obvious and predicted affect of redistributed middle class assets into the pockets of those so wealthy they can never spend those assets&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when we reclaim those assets I really wish our law makers would STOP calling it “taxing the wealthy”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the republican adminstration claimed the tax give aways to the wealthy was an economic stimulous that would gather more then they cost&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the reverse is true, not only did those investments NOT give a positive return, the return is on the far negative side SINCE those assets are never spent back into the economy, while the middle and lower class clearly spend it back into the economy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THERFORE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;those revenues CANNOT be called “tax the wealthy”, they MUST be called “redirecting middle class assets taht were poorly invested, demosntrating a negative return”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;framing those taxes the way they’re suppposed to be framed will go a VERY long way toward getting them passed&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;as you know, reagan actually raised taxes overall, he did not lowered them, he raised taxes more then any peace time president before him&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in that tax increase he redistributed tax burden even further onto the middle and lower class&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;contrary to corporate marketing, even under the pre-reagan progressive tax model, the middle and lower class STILL payed a far greater percentage of wage then the wealthy SINCE they spend an exponentially greater portion of their salary, then the wealthy, which of course means that spending is re-taxed, to state, local, useage&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if the wealthy got what they wanted, a real “flat tax” that would be fine but only if that flat tax burden included those expenditure taxes the middle and lower class far out pay then the wealthy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that’s a point nobody ever makes&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELCOME SENATOR!!!</p>
<p>SO glad we have someone like yourself in the senate talking the real talk, the talk of our founders, you are among my very favorite senators and I ESPECIALLY enjoyed your smack dialoque with greenspan, demonstrating even to alan himself that the policies the he adopted had the obvious and predicted affect of redistributed middle class assets into the pockets of those so wealthy they can never spend those assets</p>
<p>when we reclaim those assets I really wish our law makers would STOP calling it “taxing the wealthy”</p>
<p>the republican adminstration claimed the tax give aways to the wealthy was an economic stimulous that would gather more then they cost</p>
<p>the reverse is true, not only did those investments NOT give a positive return, the return is on the far negative side SINCE those assets are never spent back into the economy, while the middle and lower class clearly spend it back into the economy</p>
<p>THERFORE</p>
<p>those revenues CANNOT be called “tax the wealthy”, they MUST be called “redirecting middle class assets taht were poorly invested, demosntrating a negative return”</p>
<p>framing those taxes the way they’re suppposed to be framed will go a VERY long way toward getting them passed</p>
<p>as you know, reagan actually raised taxes overall, he did not lowered them, he raised taxes more then any peace time president before him</p>
<p>in that tax increase he redistributed tax burden even further onto the middle and lower class</p>
<p>contrary to corporate marketing, even under the pre-reagan progressive tax model, the middle and lower class STILL payed a far greater percentage of wage then the wealthy SINCE they spend an exponentially greater portion of their salary, then the wealthy, which of course means that spending is re-taxed, to state, local, useage</p>
<p>if the wealthy got what they wanted, a real “flat tax” that would be fine but only if that flat tax burden included those expenditure taxes the middle and lower class far out pay then the wealthy</p>
<p>that’s a point nobody ever makes</p>
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		<title>By: KellyCDenver</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/11/bernie-sanders-on-effective-healthcare-reform/#comment-1934102</link>
		<dc:creator>KellyCDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Senator Sanders - so glad to have your voice in the Senate. I wish that either I could vote in Vermont, or you were my Senator.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s your sense on the horse trading? Can we really get a progressive reform bill out of Conference? And at what point would you say “This is not good enough, and is only in fact worse; I’ll vote against this legislation.” ?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Senator Sanders &#8211; so glad to have your voice in the Senate. I wish that either I could vote in Vermont, or you were my Senator.</p>
<p>What’s your sense on the horse trading? Can we really get a progressive reform bill out of Conference? And at what point would you say “This is not good enough, and is only in fact worse; I’ll vote against this legislation.” ?</p>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ZED!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://minnesotaindependent.com/39022/reporter-ellison-rep-takes-on-public-option-on-house-floor#more-39022&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reporter Ellison? Rep takes on public option on House floor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need more reps like Rep Ellison!!&lt;br /&gt;
Single Payer!! No co-pays No deductibles just a monthly payment based on income!! All Americans Must have affordable quality health care other wise we all will be chattel to the rich insurance companies!! Bankruptcy will be rampart in middle class America!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZED!<br /><a href="http://minnesotaindependent.com/39022/reporter-ellison-rep-takes-on-public-option-on-house-floor#more-39022" rel="nofollow">Reporter Ellison? Rep takes on public option on House floor</a></p>
<p>We need more reps like Rep Ellison!!<br />
Single Payer!! No co-pays No deductibles just a monthly payment based on income!! All Americans Must have affordable quality health care other wise we all will be chattel to the rich insurance companies!! Bankruptcy will be rampart in middle class America!!</p>
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