Yo, ES.

Heh heh heh heh, been a while since ol Busted got a zed baby.

Busted!

Hey, ES!
Hey, Busted.
FunnyWheelieDiva

Hiya FunnyD

Hi Hi ES. It’s been a while since I stayed up to see you.

btw, The Nashville BGB played The Soggy Bottom Boys in Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?

Hi demi… you know the FDL saloon never closes. /s

There are a few slow(er) hours, though…sometimes…
FWDiva

Elmore arrived at 9pm and now is parking the trailer in the driveway….

So one of our local TV anchors was on the early show in NYC this morning, he talked about seeing fireworks from his hotel and now he was doing the 10pm news….

Gilian Welsh and Alison Kraus. The bestest!

Linky gizmo isn’t working for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdRdqp4N3Jw

Hey, ES!

Hey, Katymine.
How ya doin’ today?
Hope Elmore had a good trip.
FWDiva

Especially a monday after a holiday weekend.

Hey ES,

Obama appears poised to cave on the public option: http://online.wsj.com/article/…..And_Policy

It is more important that health-care legislation inject stiff competition among insurance plans than it is for Congress to create a pure government-run option, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said Monday.

“The goal is to have a means and a mechanism to keep the private insurers honest,” he said in an interview. “The goal is non-negotiable; the path is” negotiable.

[…]

Mr. Emanuel said one of several ways to meet President Barack Obama’s goals is a mechanism under which a public plan is introduced only if the marketplace fails to provide sufficient competition on its own. He noted that congressional Republicans crafted a similar trigger mechanism when they created a prescription-drug benefit for Medicare in 2003. In that case, private competition has been judged sufficient and the public option has never gone into effect.

Mr. Obama has pushed hard for a vigorous public option. But he has also said he won’t draw a “line in the sand” over this point.

[…]

Hi Loo Hoo

It is changable, isn’t it? For the longest time I never missed the morning posts, but now that I’m working, I have to go to the gym at 7 in the am! Yikes. I’ve surprised myself. Who am I, and what have I done with the real Demi?

Isn’t that enough to make you sick? Obama asked us lefties to leave the centrist dems alone, but it ain’t working out too well.

He opened this debate, and he can’t put the cat back in the bag. Impossible.

Rahm is a forking weasel and a Coward.

At least USA Today is swinging the other way.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped…..-care.html

Our view on health care: ‘Public option’ offers best way to curb medical costs

If private insurers can’t compete with government, who needs them?

The fact that 17 cents on every dollar in the American economy goes to health care — far more than in other countries — is the result of many factors. An aging, overweight society. Mindless paperwork. Excessive tests and procedures. Endless litigation. But a larger explanation is the delusion that the health care system is market-based.
Markets involve buyers making choices on how to spend their own money, and vendors competing to provide the best products or services at the lowest prices. In health care, of course, the bulk of treatment is paid for by third parties. This reduces pressure on vendors to trim costs and innovate. Making matters worse is that many major hospitals face little competition and can pass along huge increases in fees to insurance companies, which themselves often lack competition, and pass them along by hiking premiums.
All of this leads to what is perhaps the most contentious question in the whole health care debate: Should Congress, which turns to the issue this week when it returns from its July Fourth recess, create a government-run insurance plan to compete with private ones, as President Obama is urging?
The short answer is: yes, as long as it is self-financing.

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Nice song ya got there. Good pickin’, strumin’ and bowin’. Thanks.
I met someone today from Nashville. I asked him if it was true that girls there say The bigger the hair, the closer to God.

7 a.m. on a regular basis just sounds painful, demi. I only get up that early if I intend to shoot something. (deer or duck)

The bigger the hair, the closer to God.

Sounds Texan to me. What did the guy say? Have to say what little time I’ve spent in nashville.. I sure liked the place.

(1) This is Rahm talking, not Obama. This may be a trial balloon.
(2) This is the Wall Street Journal, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch’s Newscorp. Once upon a time, the news operation of the WSJ was separate from the reactionaries on the editorial page. I’m not the least bit sure of that: that is not how Newscorp entities operate.

So consider the sources, take a deep breath and keep on keepin’ on.

You and I definitely keep different hours. It’s all relative, though, don’t you think?
I’ve always been a morning glory. And, I pop up ready to go. My honey takes hours to kick into high gear.
Isn’t it fun that we’re all so different?

He just laughed. Didn’t really answer. Some friends of mine moved there when the guy friend was doing post for music videos. His wife had a hoot hanging out with the ladies. Teas and garden parties and all that. They named the daughter they had there Ruby.

I’ve never been a morning person. Sleep like I am in a coma (earthquakes and burglars don’t wake me), but when I rise.. I am ready to go.

Would be interesting to know how recent that WSJ interview / rahm quote is.

I’ve always tended to be an insomniac. Even as a kid. Gotta bash me on the hade witta skillet. My mister and my daughter can fall asleep anytime, anywhere. Maybe next life I’ll remember to get in that line.

That’s relevant too. The situation right now is extremely fluid. What was true 48 hours ago may not be true today.

I thought when candidate Obama broke his promise, switched on FISA last year… he promised to fix things if elected. /s

NSA Shields Government Networks With More AT&T Secret Rooms

Just a week after the Defense Department announced plans to put the National Security Agency in charge of military cyber defense and attack, the agency’s reach has already expanded to include monitoring of government civilian networks.

The Obama administration has decided to proceed with a classified Bush administration plan to let the NSA monitor traffic going to and from government civilian networks to protect the networks from malicious code and activity, according to a Washington Post story on Friday.

Given the NSA’s involvement in the Bush administration’s warrantless eavesdropping program, critics are concerned that the monitoring of government traffic on private-sector telecommunication networks that are used by the general public would allow the agency to once again spy on large swaths of non-government traffic without a warrant.

AT&T, which was scheduled to launch a pilot project last February to test the monitoring program, has insisted on government assurances that its cooperation is legal.

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That used to be me and Elmore….. he is a late niter most of his life and sports TV fits him……. since this last three months….. I don’t have a schedule and it all depends on two things…. my steroids and the barking of my neighbors dog…… last night it was pretty much all night…

Ah, the power of Context.

f***. Whatever happened to the fourth amendment?

context ain’t everything, but context is not ignorable.

the 4th amendment just misappeared right along with the thesis (on that amendment)I wrote before graduation…… the id10t professor did a through internet search to see where I bought it off the internet…. it was THAT good….. f’n A, I worked on that exclusively for a week including the two weekends with just research……

Any suggestions for exercises for computer arm? Sometimes my right arm feels half numb.

*sigh* Was good while it lasted.

The paranoia involved.. to even want to hear and know that much about so many people (much less do it)… it’s just sick.

I’m shutting it down…… going to bed…. nite everyone

Tomorrow’s paper.

I have neighbors who leave their barking little brats out all night and they bark at anything. Coyotes, leaves, stars. Then my big old hound gets going and he’s LOUD. grrrrrrrrr.

where did Rahm come from, the moon? The sea of Galilee?

President Obama appointed him, he is doing what his boss wants done.

and of course, it fits the pattern of what Democrats always do when urges towards major, needed health care reform become inconvenient – bait-n-switch, divert, water down, and declare victory!

Raise or lower your keyboard. During my arm recovery, I purchased a wireless keyboard… worked miracles.

Most of all, exercise… all the time.

Yes but I wouldn’t assume that quote happened today or yesterday.

I’ve been working out with hand weights. Getting some good definition. Might help with ‘puter arm. I’m not sure.

Do you use a mouse with your right arm?
You either could mouse with your left or look at the ergonomics of sitting. I have a soft pillow under my right arm, that helps.

But I may be the last to talk because my hands and feet are numb from the chemo……. hand and foot syndrome….

‘night katy. Here’s hoping the dog is quiet tonight.

The operative question is when did they interview Rahm? Yesterday? Last Friday?

sleep well sweet katy.

Back when Clinton won the presidency, Rahm showed up in Little Rock in a big black limo, a fedora, and a black trench coat (Jack Abramoff). Most of all he showed up with the attitude one might expect with that get up.

Arkansans never liked him since.

Thanks. Good ideas. I like the wireless keyboard idea. I know mine is too high.

Good night miss katymine.

Rahm saying it is not the same as Obama saying it. Part of Rahm’s job is setting out trial balloons for his boss, as you so eloquently put it.

The White House has to be trying to figure out how much wiggle room they have, just as the House and Senate are. Keep the pressure on them.

I can’t mouse with my left arm, cuz it comes out of the right side of the keyboard. (Mac) Pillow’s a good idea, thanks. Hope your foot and hand numbness improves soon, katymine.

I think I’m going to take my boo boo to bed now.
Keep your heads on straight and peace in your blessed little hearts.
Thanks for the chats tonight dear ones.

No idea. They may have held off on it cuz of Palin, I suppose.

I’ve never liked the asshole at all. He strikes me as a Tom DeLay with slightly (only slightly!) more palatable politics.

I was very disappointed when Emanuel was named WHCoS.

Night demi and katy.

wireless mouse, too, then.
Also arm stretches while you’re computing. Arm out in front, shoulder level, fingers up, gently pull back…fingers down, ditto.
Bet teh google would have some other exercises.
Variety in positions, definitely.
FunnyWheelieDiva

South Carolina GOP censures Sanford.

Especially the Senate. The ads targeting Louisiana and Arkansas are incredibly important. I hope folks realize how much a contribution to keeping them on the air can help on this and so many other issues.

We must wake up the south. I am thrilled to see us finally do some work here. It’s a strange place with a lot of idiots, but common sense will prevail most of the time if they are given a chance to know what really makes common sense.

Thanks. I’ll do the google tomorrow, but I think you guys are right.

Good night demi.

Would BS do a version of Livin’ In The Future in support of public health care?

The morning after O won the primary… and waltzed into AIPAC with Rahm.. I knew we were doomed.

I bet he would. Let’s ask!

Here’s another stillhouse song.

Buenos noches, mis amigos.

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the only qestion for me is whether they will manage to make a new system that is worse for everyone, by conscripting the healthy uninsured into some mandatory program, or face being fined, as with the Romney plan in Mass. pure profit! meanwhile insurance companies will offload those whose care is too expensive as they always have.

as with the debacle of the climate bill, ACES, they will botch a historic chance for serious, needed reform, and Least-worsters will be forced to whip up support for it.

pressure? whats the point? Single Payer is excluded by design.

Loo Hoo, i sent you an f/b email because my reply was so long.

Rest well BCt

Single Payer is excluded by design.

Yup, it’s all a matter of what we can squeeze out of the public option… where the triggers fall, what kind of coverage those in the public plan get.. and how little gov money goes into the hands of the privateers.. before getting to the actual care providers, etc.

I’ll take the public option if that’s what we can get, this time around.
And be very glad to have it, too.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

Yes, single payer would be the way to go, if there was a path there. The only path I see that gets there is revolution. I’m not going there.

And once more, for real this time. Good night, folks.

Night BargainCountertenor.

Time for me to turn in as well.

G’nite all.

revolution comes when a whole lot more people are very hungry.

good night wigwam.

Thanks, I’ll check!

I’m putting a little concert together and have been looking at some real old funky music, and I thought ES might enjoy the piano on this old tune:
Sallie Martin singing with Thomas A. Dorsey on Piano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAGdQ6fwFtI

I love it demi, thank you!

You’re very welcome. I just thought you’d dig it.
Night night for reals.

The only path I see that gets there is revolution.

[ citation needed ]

Canada has it, the civilized, moderate nations of the EU have single payer, even Maggie Thatcher couldn’t get rid of national health care in Britain – politicians elsewhere would be pilloried if they tried to institute the ‘American System’ . . . .

“Power concedes nothing without a demand” , and yet those who know Single Payer is the solution won’t even stand on their hind legs and demand it?

That’s not true, sporko. Folks who showed up in DC and simply demanded SP be included in committee discussions, they were arrested. O wouldn’t allow anyone who was an advocate of single payer to attend white house health meetings. When Conyers finally got invited.. even he couldn’t talk about it.

I’m all for SP and applaud those who continue to demand it exclusively. But I have no coverage / care at all..and very little income. I’ll take what I can get out of these criminals.

If we can’t kill big insurance companies.. let’s amputate as much as possible while we can.

true, some demanded it, good for them . . . I was saying that settling for a fraction means the politicians will counteroffer with a smaller fraction, and so on.

another branch of my point was – Canada, the EU, they have SP, and they got it w.out revolution.

what are some salient differences there, how did they do it?

a bigger discussion than is possible tonight, as I’m almost out of nrg,

Me too, and I look forward to more discussion and more action.

The SPers and the Pub Opters have to stick together as much as possible this year..

good night firedogs

A little history of NBB:

riginal members
Alan O’Bryant – banjo
Pat Enright – vocals
Mike Compton – mandolin
Mark Hembree – bass

Later members
Gene Libbea – bass
Roland White – mandolin
Stewart Duncan – fiddle
Dennis Crouch – bass

Obryant, Enright and Compton are legends.

Stewart Duncan is too, and so is Dennis Crouch.

ROLAND WHITE! Brother of Clarence White. Kentucky Colonels. Roland’s a legend so deep for his mando stylings only perhaps Frank Wakefield and Bill Monroe are of such status from the old guard.

I was at a fest Fathers Day Week (Tuesday thru Monday). I got to see pre-fest from the band camp they held, on Wednesday night, all the 25 or so instructors play for 3 and a half hours in various configurations.

Just pick 25 of the best musicians in any genre, put them in a 4 day music, in the Sierra Nevada at 2100 ft.

And let them do a series of impromptu configurations amongst themselves, and play. For 3 1/2 hours.

For free. Cuz they just LIKE picking, and they did if for the students (adult and kids) to watch. The students had THEIR show on Tuesday night . . . *G*

I saw Roland White, with my Sacto dobro teach, Kathy Barwick, do a duet. One of his long ago songs.

She was playin git. He on mando. And then, I met him later on the walkway, casual as all hell. Shook his hand, gushed. We chatted about his music. I gushed some more and broke away, cuz my voice was cracking. A legend. He’s 71, and such a gent and still pickin on that mando like he was a kid.

ES, ya got a good one tonite, know the hook was they backed up George in O Bother. But Dan Tyminski was the voice. NBB filled in . . . behind the rest. And did it fine.

Roland, however, is the real story. His history in the biz rivals any of them from the 50’s. When it all begin to start.

And Alan O Bryant is a hoss, too.

Here’s one of their finest, ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dro21ai9hSU

THANK you. It was up earlier tonight in a few places. HuffPo had it 6pm Left Coast time. Homework. *G*

Steve Earle is SUCH a hoss . . *G*

If the American Public took to the streets in volume it would shake the core of all the lack of reform we’re not seeing.

You want change? We the people MUST be in the streets, in a large and peaceful manner.

And I mean MILLIONS upon MILLIONS.

And work stoppages, too.

That will shake up the change tree.

Till then? Nothing. We’re sheep.

Without bodies in the streets, you wont’ get single payer, OR real public options.

You’ll get co-op’s, and triggers.

That’s where it’s headed, the Dems have capitulated to the lobby, and the fight, without the masses in the streets, is over.

So tell me, what WILL it take for folks to march, and protest, and stay home from work to demand change?

As someone says, hunger? Cuz that’s coming, too . . . and the longer it takes for us to protest, the worse the conditions will be, and the more tense it will be. And the pushback will be HARD, in the most worst of Blackwater ways.

We are either in the street over healthcare reform, or we are doomed later on when we’re hungry. We waited far to long to demand change we were promised.

Spot on. But at that point, the repression will be invoked in force.

NOW is the time to protest. Not later. But the masses, they don’t get it yet.

Well now, other than my #87, I’m unmoderated all of a sudden!

Thanks, someone! *G*

I sure hope I get to join in during REAL time with comments from here on out, and not have to wait for my input, impact, and feedback . . . *G*

Whoops, not cleared yet it appears . . . sigh.

Outta here, once again . . .

I used to babysit Stuart Duncan, Larue.

It was a bum link on Huffpo when I tried to see it.

I got to see Steve up close at a The Nation fundraiser/social. (Along with Joe and Valerie Wilson, Katrina Van den Heusel (sp) Max Blumenthal, Scott Ritter and others.) It was so cool. Wish FDL would be able to try something like that. **