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	<title>Comments on: Executive Privilege and the Cheney Interview Documents</title>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/06/executive-priveledge-and-the-cheney-interview-documents/#comment-1931242</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There may have once been recognized rules about executive privilege but since Bush it means whatever the President at the time says it means.  Fact and logic simply do not apply.  As we have seen with the torture photos and the Cheney interview, the Obama Administration has no interest in open government.  First, because it wishes to reserve the right to itself to keep embarrassing and unfavorable information about it from us.  Second, because release of information under FOIA about the Bush years might force them into investigations and prosecutions, something they don’t want because quite frankly they agree with most of what Bush did.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for Jeralyn, that is a different issue, I think.  Obama supporters are finding that they have to go through all kinds of logical acrobatics to come up with justifications for what Obama is doing.  There is a real disconnect there because their rationalizations are very reminiscent of how hardcore Bush supporters defended him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may have once been recognized rules about executive privilege but since Bush it means whatever the President at the time says it means.  Fact and logic simply do not apply.  As we have seen with the torture photos and the Cheney interview, the Obama Administration has no interest in open government.  First, because it wishes to reserve the right to itself to keep embarrassing and unfavorable information about it from us.  Second, because release of information under FOIA about the Bush years might force them into investigations and prosecutions, something they don’t want because quite frankly they agree with most of what Bush did.</p>
<p>As for Jeralyn, that is a different issue, I think.  Obama supporters are finding that they have to go through all kinds of logical acrobatics to come up with justifications for what Obama is doing.  There is a real disconnect there because their rationalizations are very reminiscent of how hardcore Bush supporters defended him.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/06/executive-priveledge-and-the-cheney-interview-documents/#comment-1931212</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cynthia Kouril wrote:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But the Rubber Stamp Congress did not do their job. So, one man, Jim Comey, screwed up his courage and constructed a leaky, barely seaworthy life raft for the rule of law out of some fallen tree branches held together with bailing wire and chewing gum. Pat Fitzgerald and his crew somehow managed to sail that life raft safely to the lee shore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;High praise for Republicans shows we really are after the Truth and upholding the Rule of Law. It’s about Right and Wrong, not Left and Right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great imagery Cynthia. Finding a safe harbour on the shore of a lake we visit regularly…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia Kouril wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>But the Rubber Stamp Congress did not do their job. So, one man, Jim Comey, screwed up his courage and constructed a leaky, barely seaworthy life raft for the rule of law out of some fallen tree branches held together with bailing wire and chewing gum. Pat Fitzgerald and his crew somehow managed to sail that life raft safely to the lee shore.</p>
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<p>High praise for Republicans shows we really are after the Truth and upholding the Rule of Law. It’s about Right and Wrong, not Left and Right.</p>
<p>Great imagery Cynthia. Finding a safe harbour on the shore of a lake we visit regularly…</p>
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		<title>By: regulararmyfool</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/06/executive-priveledge-and-the-cheney-interview-documents/#comment-1931196</link>
		<dc:creator>regulararmyfool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Impeach Obama now. We got another fucking Bush. Impeachment might get the message to Biden that we, the people, are NOT FUCKING happy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;5 months of war crimes is 5 months too much.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impeach Obama now. We got another fucking Bush. Impeachment might get the message to Biden that we, the people, are NOT FUCKING happy.</p>
<p>5 months of war crimes is 5 months too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/06/executive-priveledge-and-the-cheney-interview-documents/#comment-1930943</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, two pieces about Cheney related to the Plame investigation on the frontpage, Cynthia and Marcy ham-and-egging it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s like a blast from the past, ca. 2005, when we thought we actually had a chance at nailing Deadeye…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, two pieces about Cheney related to the Plame investigation on the frontpage, Cynthia and Marcy ham-and-egging it.</p>
<p>It’s like a blast from the past, ca. 2005, when we thought we actually had a chance at nailing Deadeye…</p>
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		<title>By: KellyCDenver</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/06/executive-priveledge-and-the-cheney-interview-documents/#comment-1930942</link>
		<dc:creator>KellyCDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But the Rubber Stamp Congress did not do their job.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Under the current situation, the Congress is going to continue to shift power over to the Executive which will happily take it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The right oriented Legislative (which isn’t going to get any more lefty with Sotomayor - and people will be pissed about this next year, despite defending her right now) will not create much if any more balance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that economic conditions are only going to get marginally better, if they get better at all.  Therefore I think the stage is set for a “throw the bums out” movement and turn over EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE HOUSE. And all the Senators that are up in 2010.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Primary all of them, and start over. It’s pretty much the only remedy we have. And that should get the Executive’s attention prior to 2012. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other words, “straighten up and fly right, or you’re outta here; all of you.” Will that happen? Nope. But that’s the remedy available to us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But the Rubber Stamp Congress did not do their job.</p>
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<p>Under the current situation, the Congress is going to continue to shift power over to the Executive which will happily take it. </p>
<p>The right oriented Legislative (which isn’t going to get any more lefty with Sotomayor &#8211; and people will be pissed about this next year, despite defending her right now) will not create much if any more balance.</p>
<p>I think that economic conditions are only going to get marginally better, if they get better at all.  Therefore I think the stage is set for a “throw the bums out” movement and turn over EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE HOUSE. And all the Senators that are up in 2010.</p>
<p>Primary all of them, and start over. It’s pretty much the only remedy we have. And that should get the Executive’s attention prior to 2012. </p>
<p>In other words, “straighten up and fly right, or you’re outta here; all of you.” Will that happen? Nope. But that’s the remedy available to us.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even weaker as an argument (according to ew) because a lot of this is &lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; public. (Which Jeralyn should also know.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even weaker as an argument (according to ew) because a lot of this is <em>already</em> public. (Which Jeralyn should also know.)</p>
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		<title>By: Funnydiva2002</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/06/executive-priveledge-and-the-cheney-interview-documents/#comment-1930940</link>
		<dc:creator>Funnydiva2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, I still don’t get it.&lt;br /&gt;
Talking to investigators is always completely voluntary?  There are no levers or sticks to use to compel cooperation?&lt;br /&gt;
No snark, srsly.&lt;br /&gt;
FunnyWheelieDiva&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I still don’t get it.<br />
Talking to investigators is always completely voluntary?  There are no levers or sticks to use to compel cooperation?<br />
No snark, srsly.<br />
FunnyWheelieDiva</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/06/executive-priveledge-and-the-cheney-interview-documents/#comment-1930939</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They spend a long long time in the filings saying that they know how to give confidentiality agreements to interviewees, they do give them a lot, and so …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;even though they didn’t give one to Cheney, we should pretend they did because otherwise no one else will ever talk to them (even if that person thinks to ask for, and DOJ agrees to give, a confidentiality agreement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Technical issue:  If you’ve looked at the filings, you have invocations of privilege by OLC and by the head of the Crim Div.  To be competent, shouldn’t those affidavits come from whoever has succeeded to the acting AG status Comey had?  And after the delegation to Margolis - then what happened?  I’ve always wondered and no one has ever really pinned it down.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know Fitzgerald has said he’s not doing anything now, but who has the supervisory capacity on the mandate that was given to him and shouldn’t they be the one making at least one of these declarations?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They spend a long long time in the filings saying that they know how to give confidentiality agreements to interviewees, they do give them a lot, and so …</p>
<p>even though they didn’t give one to Cheney, we should pretend they did because otherwise no one else will ever talk to them (even if that person thinks to ask for, and DOJ agrees to give, a confidentiality agreement.</p>
<p>Technical issue:  If you’ve looked at the filings, you have invocations of privilege by OLC and by the head of the Crim Div.  To be competent, shouldn’t those affidavits come from whoever has succeeded to the acting AG status Comey had?  And after the delegation to Margolis &#8211; then what happened?  I’ve always wondered and no one has ever really pinned it down.  </p>
<p>I know Fitzgerald has said he’s not doing anything now, but who has the supervisory capacity on the mandate that was given to him and shouldn’t they be the one making at least one of these declarations?</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/06/executive-priveledge-and-the-cheney-interview-documents/#comment-1930938</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, one man, Jim Comey, screwed up his courage and constructed a leaky, barely seaworthy life raft for the rule of law out of some fallen tree branches held together with bailing wire and chewing gum. Pat Fitzgerald and his crew somehow managed to sail that life raft safely to the lee shore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The image of Patrick Fitzgerald in charge of something ”leaky” is . . . entertaining.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, one man, Jim Comey, screwed up his courage and constructed a leaky, barely seaworthy life raft for the rule of law out of some fallen tree branches held together with bailing wire and chewing gum. Pat Fitzgerald and his crew somehow managed to sail that life raft safely to the lee shore.</p>
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<p>The image of Patrick Fitzgerald in charge of something ”leaky” is . . . entertaining.</p>
<p>*g*</p>
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		<title>By: Funnydiva2002</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funnydiva2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, Cynthia!&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Comey as MacGyver.  Niiiiiice!&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, pups!&lt;br /&gt;
FunnyWheelieDiva&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Cynthia!<br />
Jim Comey as MacGyver.  Niiiiiice!<br />
Hey, pups!<br />
FunnyWheelieDiva</p>
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