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	<title>Comments on: Sarah Palin, a Dead Parrot, and Scrotal Asymmetry</title>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1930151</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s easy to say, far more difficult in actuality. Try revamping our political system so that it has three or more viable parties, so there isn’t a bifurcation in identification and choice; it’s ridiculously hard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look at the problem progressives are having with the current administration and congress, which in theory is a Democratic majority. We might as well be that third party, beating against a centrist organization. As soon as we peel away into that third group, the conservative end of the spectrum is in a better position to peel away members from the centrist organization, leaving the centrist and progressive organizations without the political clout necessary to effect change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bifurcation has become a feature, not just a bug, because it’s so damned hard to push the pendulum in one or the other direction without a critical mass.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s easy to say, far more difficult in actuality. Try revamping our political system so that it has three or more viable parties, so there isn’t a bifurcation in identification and choice; it’s ridiculously hard.</p>
<p>Look at the problem progressives are having with the current administration and congress, which in theory is a Democratic majority. We might as well be that third party, beating against a centrist organization. As soon as we peel away into that third group, the conservative end of the spectrum is in a better position to peel away members from the centrist organization, leaving the centrist and progressive organizations without the political clout necessary to effect change.</p>
<p>Bifurcation has become a feature, not just a bug, because it’s so damned hard to push the pendulum in one or the other direction without a critical mass.</p>
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		<title>By: Mile23</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1930088</link>
		<dc:creator>Mile23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Glenn, this is a very good essay. However, there’s something else to consider:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fantasy bifurcation of politics into left vs. right is certainly harmful in many ways, but it’s mainly harmful because the fantasy is seen for reality. In order to fix this, we have to come to terms with our own fantasies. We have to quit thinking of The Other Side as the other side, because the line that is drawn between us was put there by someone who is simply trying to use us for their own ends.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The line, in other words, is more arbitrary than anyone thinks, and if you don’t recognize this you run the risk of being a tool.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s step one. Step two is when we look at these lines and recognize their negative nature, and then realize that we were the ones who drew them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn, this is a very good essay. However, there’s something else to consider:</p>
<p>The fantasy bifurcation of politics into left vs. right is certainly harmful in many ways, but it’s mainly harmful because the fantasy is seen for reality. In order to fix this, we have to come to terms with our own fantasies. We have to quit thinking of The Other Side as the other side, because the line that is drawn between us was put there by someone who is simply trying to use us for their own ends.</p>
<p>The line, in other words, is more arbitrary than anyone thinks, and if you don’t recognize this you run the risk of being a tool.</p>
<p>That’s step one. Step two is when we look at these lines and recognize their negative nature, and then realize that we were the ones who drew them.</p>
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		<title>By: R.H. Green</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1929970</link>
		<dc:creator>R.H. Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It seems to me that the terms “left and right” are euphemisms for “us vs them”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the terms “left and right” are euphemisms for “us vs them”.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1929930</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a mother of a teenage girl, this aspect bothers me the most.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much impact has Sarah Palin had on the socialization of young women in this country? Are they shaping their opinion of political opportunity based on her performance? How many parents are ignoring the chance for comparison based on effectiveness between the female role models now serving as elected officials?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I shudder to think any parent would let this sorry mess pass for success, and that a future generation of women running for office will think this behavior acceptable. Ugh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a mother of a teenage girl, this aspect bothers me the most.</p>
<p>How much impact has Sarah Palin had on the socialization of young women in this country? Are they shaping their opinion of political opportunity based on her performance? How many parents are ignoring the chance for comparison based on effectiveness between the female role models now serving as elected officials?</p>
<p>I shudder to think any parent would let this sorry mess pass for success, and that a future generation of women running for office will think this behavior acceptable. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: brione</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1929929</link>
		<dc:creator>brione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It always struck me that to be an American required a certain kind of bravery: because a person is innocent until proven guilty, we can’t just lock them up, we’re taking a risk; because we’d rather release a guilty person than imprison an innocent one, we’re taking a risk; because we allow people to speak out against the government, we’re taking a risk. I can’t be exhaustive here, because there are so many examples that one could give.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One only has to look at those examples, though, to see the weakening of them from how they were thought of and practiced, versus how they are now. Every one of the examples given, suffered during the Bush years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Part of that, I would say, is a loss of courage. Fear will do that to people. The ideals that embodied in our nation can inspire courage, if they are pointed out and respected. When the ideals are undermined and fear is encouraged, cowardice is the result.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So let’s stand up for the traditional ideals of truth, justice for all, equality and family that have made this country great!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, does that line of thinking make me a conservative, or a liberal? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ha! The question is meaningless!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always struck me that to be an American required a certain kind of bravery: because a person is innocent until proven guilty, we can’t just lock them up, we’re taking a risk; because we’d rather release a guilty person than imprison an innocent one, we’re taking a risk; because we allow people to speak out against the government, we’re taking a risk. I can’t be exhaustive here, because there are so many examples that one could give.</p>
<p>One only has to look at those examples, though, to see the weakening of them from how they were thought of and practiced, versus how they are now. Every one of the examples given, suffered during the Bush years.</p>
<p>Part of that, I would say, is a loss of courage. Fear will do that to people. The ideals that embodied in our nation can inspire courage, if they are pointed out and respected. When the ideals are undermined and fear is encouraged, cowardice is the result.</p>
<p>So let’s stand up for the traditional ideals of truth, justice for all, equality and family that have made this country great!</p>
<p>Now, does that line of thinking make me a conservative, or a liberal? </p>
<p>Ha! The question is meaningless!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn W. Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1929926</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn W. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;a falsehood, wrapped in a fabrication, protecting a distortion, cloaking a misrepresentation, encircling an invention, veiling a fiction, shrouding a whopper.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pretty much sums her up! Good work. Maybe we can pierce her veiled fictions when we take her deposition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>a falsehood, wrapped in a fabrication, protecting a distortion, cloaking a misrepresentation, encircling an invention, veiling a fiction, shrouding a whopper.</p>
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<p>Pretty much sums her up! Good work. Maybe we can pierce her veiled fictions when we take her deposition.</p>
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		<title>By: EdwardTeller</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1929924</link>
		<dc:creator>EdwardTeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Glenn,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you said:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;a mystery and an enigma wrapped in a conundrum&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last week, trying to describe a series of Palin falsehoods during the week before her bizarre Friday speech,&lt;a href=&quot;http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2009/07/saradise-lost-book-2-chapter-76-which.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; I described my soon-to-be-ex-guv&lt;/a&gt; as:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;a falsehood, wrapped in a fabrication, protecting a distortion, cloaking a misrepresentation, encircling an invention, veiling a fiction, shrouding a whopper.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like her attorney is &lt;a href=&quot;http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2009/07/can-you-say-slapp.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;testing the waters&lt;/a&gt; for a SLAPP suit against those pesky, annoying Alaska bloggers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn,</p>
<p>you said:</p>
<blockquote><p>a mystery and an enigma wrapped in a conundrum</p>
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<p>Last week, trying to describe a series of Palin falsehoods during the week before her bizarre Friday speech,<a href="http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2009/07/saradise-lost-book-2-chapter-76-which.html" rel="nofollow"> I described my soon-to-be-ex-guv</a> as:</p>
<blockquote><p>a falsehood, wrapped in a fabrication, protecting a distortion, cloaking a misrepresentation, encircling an invention, veiling a fiction, shrouding a whopper.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Looks like her attorney is <a href="http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2009/07/can-you-say-slapp.html" rel="nofollow">testing the waters</a> for a SLAPP suit against those pesky, annoying Alaska bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Crosstimbers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1929922</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosstimbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You may be right, Glen, but my experience keeps taking me back to the times I’ve heard twelve or thirteen-year-old girls either respond in class when they haven’t done their homework, or try to overcome a negative response when they’ve asked their parents to let them do something. Many adults forget the original question and just say “okay.”  Either way, I’m as frightened as you are by the fact that the performance appeals to a significant part of the population and that she came anywhere even close to being considered for the leadership of this country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be right, Glen, but my experience keeps taking me back to the times I’ve heard twelve or thirteen-year-old girls either respond in class when they haven’t done their homework, or try to overcome a negative response when they’ve asked their parents to let them do something. Many adults forget the original question and just say “okay.”  Either way, I’m as frightened as you are by the fact that the performance appeals to a significant part of the population and that she came anywhere even close to being considered for the leadership of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn W. Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1929921</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn W. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stop. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn W. Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/05/sarah-palin-a-dead-parrot-and-scrotal-assymetry/#comment-1929920</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn W. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, he can be president of her bar.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he can be president of her bar.</p>
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