Comments on: Gaza – Some Things Never Change

By: libbyliberal

libbyliberal — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:16:00 +0000

Thanks siun.

From this issue of Time Magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/world.....d=tsmodule

Does Israel Mistreat Palestinian Child Prisoners? It is heartbreaking and confounding.

And Obama just handed over to Israel $2.775 billion for whatever, nuclear proliferation included. Israel won’t sign the Nonprolif Treaty. Iran has. America’s unconditional cronyism. That continues to confound.

By: regulararmyfool

regulararmyfool — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:58:47 +0000

1. go into Palestine.
2. choose 5 old grandmothers with children that are agreed to be clean honest and honorable.
3. check with the zionists that these are truly human beings and they agree that they are humans.
4. Give each of the old women a home in Israel with a built in A bomb and a hammer.
5. No more middle east bullshit, ever.
6. This is absolutely no different than the rogue state of America holding 15000 deteriorating nuclear devices for “protection.” So skip the sophistry, just do it.

By: shootthatarrow

shootthatarrow — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:59:18 +0000

If it were Iran,Syria or Egypt treating a small strip of ME real estate populated by ME humans of the Jewish faith in ways similar to how Israel is mistreating or punishing Gazans the Americans would be doing what then?

Joe Biden evidently is getting the green light from Obama WH/WashingtonDC to have pronounced the American blessing on Israeli/IAF attacks on Iranian atomic sites being there thus far has been no walk back or smack down of his comment regarding American impotence over Israel.

Interesting how Israel is accorded this American “what leash?” attitude regarding sovereignity but Iran which is in compliance with atomic treaties for atomic power is at full risk for also exercising sovereignity.

In review again–Israel has illegal,treaty non-compliant atomic weapons which Americans clearly condone and is now told by American VP that Israeli sovereignity trumps WashingtonDC’s powers of the leash. Israel fully sups of yearly American $$ transfers in the billions and partakes of American military hardware and parts supply on regular basis.
WashingtonDC cannot stop Israel however. Odd that.

What WashingtonDC is letting Israel do and get away with in West Bank,Jerusalem and Gaza is full mockery of American preening about what it stands for in ME or other other parts of Asia.

President Obama has not denounced what Israel did to Gaza in late 2008 and evidently cannot or will not do much about ongoing Israeli occupation and war crimes in West Bank or Gaza despite the illegality of Israeli conduct.

The portents of what is to come are now being revealed and a attack on Iranian atomic sites no matter what the facts or record show regarding this bellicose laden premise will take place.

Barack Obama is betraying true and long term American interests with his pandering to and placating of Israel. He in effect is no different than the guy he replaced in the WH. There is and will be no shame over doing so.

Attacking Iran will open upon far worst outcome than what was seen in doing so with Iraq. Americans are broke as is(see California or ongoing American healthcare debacle) and are about to let the fuse for much greater conflict across ME to be lit. American militarism is now out of control and letting Israel plunge America into wider ME breakdown and endless conflict surely the full measure of American mendacity.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:39:13 +0000

As long as you can’t differentiate between Israelis and American Jews, I somewhat respectfully suggest that you’re perfectly welcome to select your favorite candidates by making sure that they practice religions of which you approve.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:04:35 +0000

You and x174 are both very welcome.

By: BearCountry

BearCountry — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:50:57 +0000

So much for obama’s tough talk about israel must stop expanding settlements so peace can move foward. Everyone knew obama was blowing hot air as a domestic political move. israel’s government and sycophants hate Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein because they simply point out the truth using the israeli leadership’s own words.

By: hazmaq

hazmaq — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:47:18 +0000

Quite respectfully I say this to all the pro-Israeli people: as long as the American Congress -in particular the Democrats, are owned by Israel and put Israeli interests first before the American citizens I will never ever vote for another Jew in Congress nor will I buy any product associated with Israel. I’m also so ashamed by Reid’s leadership in the Senate I will never support another Democrat again

Israelis have turned bestial while American dollars soak in their bloodletting = we’ve become their pimps.

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:42:15 +0000

Thanks!

By: x174

x174 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:52:56 +0000

thanks siun and macaquerman for the early info and updates.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:47:11 +0000

Haaretz
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1096729.html

The Wapo, and the NYT also.

The Haaretz story is from July 1