In an amazing display of Conventional Wisdom regurgitation about how politicians are lagging indicators in American political culture, the NYT’s Adam Nagourney uses many words, some of them big, to define why DeeCee won’t move as quickly as America to acknowledge LGBT rights.
Identifying why politicians aren’t reflecting American values," Nagourney writes:
The conflicting signals from the White House about its commitment to gay issues reflect a broader paradox: even as cultural acceptance of homosexuality increases across the country, the politics of gay rights remains full of crosscurrents.
Of course, these crosscurrents are by no means unique to the struggle for LGBT rights, as we commemorate the fortieth anniversary of the Stonewall riots. A South Carolina Congressional candidate, Linda Ketner, who came within four percentage points in her 2008 campaign, explains to AdNags that change hardly ever comes from DeeCee:
“America is changing more quickly than the government,” said Linda Ketner, a gay Democrat from South Carolina who came within four percentage points of winning a Congressional seat in November. “They are lagging behind the crowd. But if I remember my poli sci from college, isn’t that the way it always works?”
Oh, snap.
In other words, your thesis is mundane, Mr Nagourney, and you should know better. Water wet; sky blue; DeeCee politicos lag American culture. While tangentially acknowledging that the change in American attitudes toward LGBT rights is primarily generational, Nagourney misses a key point: our representatives in DeeCee are part of the older generation that retains dying attitudes about LGBTs.
David Axelrod, a senior Obama adviser, said, “You look at polling and attitudes among younger people on these issues are startlingly different than older people.”
“As generational change happens,” Mr. Axelrod added, “that’s going to be more and more true.”
We don’t just need to wait for older bigots die off; we need to elect younger, more accepting people to office in Washington. We need to be out and proud when dealing with our Congresscritters. They need to know who we LGBT constituents are and what we want. Our representation needs to change in order to reflect American culture.
Whether American politicos change their own attitudes or are changed out for others whose attitudes are more reflective of what Americans believe is immaterial.
Change is coming, though. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.



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Happy Pride, everyone.
He’s right about the polls, but one thing jumped out at me with this quote. It’s only startling if you don’t know or talk to any younger people.
It’s part of the theme, inertia, and dullness of all these old (rich) white guys. We can help them get out of the way.
It’s the only kind of Pride to have, Teddy!
;)
I don’t think those old guys really care who sleeps together or if a 15 years old gets an abortion. I truly believe that they like to exert their power over other people just because they can. It makes them feel important.
And for someone whose successful campaign was powered by newly politically-engaged, it’s more than startling. It’s out of touch.
And they like the votes of the rubes who “share their values.”
It’s when their values are revealed for the sham that they are that the rubes start to scratch their heads and wonder, “but you said you shared my values!”
It is not “out of touch”. It is just another lie from the “new” karl Rove of the new right, aka the Democratic party.
Linda Ketner’s “isn’t that the way it always works?” made me laugh out loud. I don’t think she knows you aren’t supposed to talk to bigtime political reporters from The New York Times that way. But I love her for it, and I wish she had not decided not to run for Congress again.
Pride goeth before the britches. /s
Same to you, Teddy.
Anybody know the median age in the House and Senate?
Most pols are amoral. Their stance on “social issues” is nothing more than vote pandering.
Maybe “amoral” is the wrong term, since vote pandering and many of the other things they do are immoral (in my opinion). What I mean is that they have no deep rooted convictions, aside from serving their corporate masters.
She’s not running?
And a contrast to what these old farts are feeling most of the time: impotent.
I’ve witnessed four political battles in Anchorage to get an equal rights ordinance passed for gays – in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and now.
The ordinance was set to pass easily this time, but has been filibustered by a huge evangelical crowd being encouraged by their pastors to show up. The current series of assembly hearings on the ordinance began three weeks ago. The assembly chair has agreed to hear testimony from anyone on the issue, until all have been heard. We’re into the mid-hundreds of testifiers now, the high hundreds of people who have signed up.
Some churches are bussing people in from out of town (like Wasilla) to testify.
If young people are more understanding – and I believe they are – you wouldn’t know it from these hate-filled kids, recent Russian and Ukrainian evangelical emigres, bussed in from Wasilla.
Have they heard of the Constitution? One’s civil liberties/rights are not given by majority vote, so we say.
We have kids like that in Sacramento. They beat an Asian boy to death a year or so ago because they thought he was gay. Not that it matters but he wasn’t. One of them escaped back to the Ukraine. One is in jail. Their community worked hard to get 8 passed.
What would Jesus do?
And not only that they pick all of the neighborhood fruit trees bare and don’t even ask. Bigots and thieves.
I guess I sound like a bigot. This is getting confusing.
Hey Rev, I resemble that remark, except for the rich part. Gay was verry, verry, scary back then. Someone explain to me why women are much less racist and homophobic than we men. These gender differences are astounding when looked at, but they are ignored.
Nope, I got an email from her not too much longer after Howie hosted her here, saying she’d decided not to run. Too bad, I say. She came very close, which is amazing, especially in SCarolina, where no women have been elected statewide or to federal offices EVER.
I have read about that ex-pat community in Sacramento. I don’t think you are a bigot, but I can report that my dental student dentist is also from Ukraine, and is a very open, warm, and accepting (straight) person. So while fundies may be bigoted wherever on the globe they come from, Ukrainians are not all bigots.
Thanks Teddy.
Are you a meet up attendee?
Patriarchy with all its power has a very long history. Until the 80’s the LA Civil Code talked about the male as “head & master of the community”, meaning he controlled, could sell etc any of the community property. What finally went to the Sup Ct. to change that community regime was when a criminal man sold the family home to pay lawyer fees to defend….sex (incestuous) abuse charges…I think the recent changes for women and minorities have scared the ….b-jeesus out of most men, esp of a certain age. At least protecting all that turf and control has been complete culture shock, hence, the rage….at least in part, as I see it.
Everytime I hear a report on the numbers of women in Law, Medicine, and among college graduates, it almost takes my breath to realize the changes in what may seem like rather short time. I heard the hypothesis that Ms. Obama may seek to be Senator or even Pres. That vision would have been a hallucination only a few years back. I guess men better start adjusting; many of them will just have to die off. And gays have a similar tale to tell.
Yes. It is a good strong feeling. I have two daughters. They both have significant male energy. Or that is how some would describe it. I just see them as healthy and not taking any “stuff” from others
I don’t think older men are so much scared by the rise of women as confused –I guess confusion turns into fear.
I hope to live to see a critical mass of women in US politics. What will that number be? 30% of house and senate? 40%? Sweden has 47% UK 19.5 US 17
http://www.onlinewomeninpoliti…..istics.htm
Confusion, uncertainty…all those uppity women + seeing the change in roles. And not in their favor unless they want a new kind of partnership.
I’m old, like uppity women and am not confused. I just misplace a lot of stuff.
SD,
I respect your comments on this list a good deal so I will allow myself to note the tendency for men to sincerely make nice with, say woman power, but, unintentionally, I think, take the edge off with a bit of humor, like let’s not take this too seriously. Seems a small thing perhaps but, watch for it, it often ends the conversation.
We also need KAPOS like AdNags to die off.