Governor Mark Sanford worked hard to pass South Carolina’s discriminatory constitutional amendment banning recognition of relationships that aren’t between one man and one woman.
“You’ve drifted a long way when you have to actually go about the business of defining what marriage is,” Sanford said.
So, can The State (newspaper) provide an accurate count, please, of the number of women in the Sanford marriage? Mark Sanford seems to have drifted a long way beyond the constitutional amendment he got passed in South Carolina.
The names of two other women tumbled into the newsroom.
Fearful Sanford’s staffers did not get it — that the paper would ask publicly what Sanford’s relationship was with Maria — a State editor called Davis, Sanford’s former chief of staff.
[snip]
And more names of women were coming in over the transom.
The total was at three and counting.
“Women?!” Davis responded, sounding incredulous. “Women?!”
Presumably, Davis was incredulous at the plural and not at the gender.
It’s time for Governor Sanford to answer lots of pointed questions about who, what, where, when — and how much money. South Carolinians are certainly entitled to know whether taxpayer-funded resources were used to enable, or cover up, any of these other alleged affairs. Especially South Carolinians whose unemployment assistance has run out, or whose food stamps have been cut off, or whose childrens’ health insurance has been endangered. Only because Governor Sanford thinks that to spend federal stimulus money on their needs is wasteful.
While to waste state money on his need to get spent is stimulating.
And Governor Sanford? You can just stfu about my marriage, thank you very much. Happy Pride, to you and your many loves!
(thanks to bmaz for pointing me to The State’s wonderful, if incomplete, ticktock)
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teddy!
Wow, even the Simpsons used their old Michael Jackson “BartMan” tribute to start the show.
Happy Pride everyone!
Hello Suzanne!
that state farm ad with the m/j song i’ll be there has been getting heavy rotation up here.
Marcy does kind of raise the bar on the use of timelines.
Betty Bowers does the best job explaining traditional marriage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
how was pride sf teddy? portland had theirs up here earlier in the month
*placing the sealed envelope to my forehead*
Fabulous.
Teddy! Hope you have had a great day and a great evening too!
I musta missed it Teddy you be married??? If so great news for you & yours!! Happy Pride Day to you Teddy.
Happy pride, Teddy!
If all these conservative asshats and their sanctimonious hypocritical philandering can’t destroy marriage, then your loving relationship can only make it stronger.
She has spoiled us rotten, hasn’t she? I just wanted to sit those The State reporters down and say, “Look, here’s how it’s done.” They really left the reader hanging in several areas, especially the “two or three other women” category….
Was a fun weekend, but Patrick had to work (boo!) so we enjoyed Pink Saturday yesterday evening in the Castro the most. Somebody had to mind the intertubes today, so I did.
Happy Pride, but no — I prolly should have put “marriage” in quotes.
*sigh* i miss the castro. it is such a lovely neighborhood
I was hoping for you Teddy that maybe you had visited Massachusetts and tied the knot. But Happy Pride Teddy. Mark Sanford and all his women…. what a freaking hypocrite hope they prosecute him for misuse of State monies for all the diddling he has been doing on the people’s Dime!!
hiya Matt
Additionally (although presumably IOKIYAR) adultery is still illegal in SCarolina and punishable by up to one year in prison.
as them law and order r’s (as they like to call themselves) say, if the law is on the books, its the law and has to be enforced.
Teddy! Evening firepups!
Let’s see now. Misappropriation of state funds, going AWOL without notifying anyone, and adultery. Looks like he has a lot of ’splaining to do if anybody ever hauls his sorry ass into court.
Think of all the people who will have a hard actually convincing their loved ones that they are actually hiking the Appalachian Trail.
He likes impeachment trials.
People are starting to give me funny looks when I tell them I going to hike the Rattlesnake (NRA).
My understanding (which may be wrong) is that the AWOL thing is an actual impeachable offense.
if only the gov had been off dallying with mario instead of maria…
Hi everyone…..
I really feel like shit tonight ….. nausea, dizzy….. weird…..been that way all afternoon….. is it side effects of the drugs I’m on or my disease?…..
Maybe Sanford really thinks he is the reincarnation of King David, and decided now is the time to get rolling on his concubine collection.
could be the heat katy – mom said it was very hot again today
Perhaps the heat?
So what does everyone think about this out-of-state vacation that Jenny and the Sanford Sons have embarked on?
hiya Betsy!
hi Katy, sorry today isn’t a good day
Hadn’t heard about that. What’s the scoop?
How are ya Teddy? What’s new?
I think the “other women” thing was a dodge by the editor to get a reaction from Davis. If the State had evidence of other affairs, they would have busted him with them at the same time they busted him on Maria.
Remember, in the story Davis wasn’t wanting to get involved, but for some reason the State wanted him in on the story.
Sounds like Jenny doesn’t want to be in the neighborhood when the world caves in on Marky.
Hi katy, I hope tomorrow is much better.
off to nevada for a quickie divorce?
I think Mark volunteered to be president of Honduras but so far they’re not returning his calls.
Where marriages are quick and divorces are even Quicker!!
But Barack Obama is very concerned about the coup d’etat.
When a politician cheats on a spouse the likelihood is that it has happened more than once. It is a function of ego, power and/or money, opportunity, frequent separations, and sense of entitlement. You see much the same patterns in sports and entertainment stars.
I think it is a version of the old “power corrupts” rule.
Sounds like the Gay Pride parade through your old stomping ground was a big hit today. They get a lot more Chicago pols to participate than they did back during King Daly the 1st’s reign.
If the State had other names, why didn’t they bust Sanford on them? You don’t save this stuff for a rainy day… it has a very short expiration date once revealed.
It was always huge when I was there (pretty much shut down the whole neighborhood) and drew most of the politicians (except the Rethugs and other conservatives). You either went out to enjoy it and the huge crowds or hid for the day.
they are not so quickie….. you have to establish residence in NV which took 6 weeks for my divorce, then waiting for a court date also takes time…… It is another Hollywood myth
They have too many opportunities to stray. Eventually all resistance (if there ever was any) breaks down entirely.
On a related note, if the reports that John Edwards and his mistress made a sex tape are true, he is even dumber than I thought.
i bet they build on it and plan on dropping the names one by one…. until he resigns and then the story is over.
I’m not usually interested in following stories about politicians’ affairs, but what intrigues me in the cases of Ensign and Sanford is the window into the cult mentality of The Family that their sexual affairs provide: the entitlement, narcissism and grandiosity.
The King David excuse is a reference to what Jeff Sharlet described in his 2008 interview with Lindsay Beyerstein:
I think we must understand the mentality of The Family’s members if we are to be equipped to end their influence in our affairs.
Not a good place to live for people who dislike crowds. Just having Wrigley Field so close is a bit of a nuisance. Pretty good location to live if you don’t own or require a car.
The words you’re looking for are amoral and unethical.
Suzanne: You may be right. If you are, that means someone at The State has a serious hard-on (in the figurative sense) for Sanford.
Here’s a connection between Mark Sanford and Michael jackson:
Michael Jackson, and his three children, stayed at Cedars, The Family’s northern Virginia estate, in October 2001, when jackson performed at a benefit concert for the victims of 9/11. The Family owns/operates ’C Street.’
like sharks in the water smelling blood… tis their story and they are gonna milk it for all the increased circulation they can
Between Wrigley, the 3 million bars, and Boys’ Town, it was always crowded. You either adjusted to the crowds or went crazy. I had friends wh were native Chicagoans who refused to drive in my neighborhood (it was bumper to bumper at 3 am on weekends).
From tomorrow’s WaPo:
I love how they are “just folks,” too:
She went to New Trier High School
Met Mark while she was working at Goldman Sachs, at a party in the Hamptons
Moved to SCarolina to live “near his family’s plantation”
Own a luxurious beach cottage on a private island
Can afford to leave the state, with her kids, as she tries to save her marriage
Get after ’em Teddy, fucking hypocrites.
Doncha know it was the gays that destroyed Sandord’s marriage???
They put the emails in a drawer after getting them in December, unable to raise either Maria or the sender by return email. “Things got busy with the stimulus” was The State’s excuse. Yeah, the national media turned your heads, is my response.
Pretty, though.
street-smart toughness
Given her upbringing in a neighborhood that is home to folks like Phil Sheridan’s descendents and other old money familes, she has never seen “the street.”
i thought he was working at sachs when they met – she was veep at some other wall street firm
If you haven’t seen the Mark Sanford Karaoke contest held by Jimmy Fallow, you can see it at HuffPo. He has audience members sing passages from the e-mails to Maria. It’s excruciating. It’s cringeworthy. It’s unsurvivable. It’s a nightmare come true if they are your words to your soulmate-come-lately.
Lesson for today:
Never put anything in an e-mail you wouldn’t want to hear put to karaoke on late night TV.
Working through the GOP prez contenders, one feather boa at a time.
So, who was tracking his cell phone and releasing that info?
I remember seeing that she was at Sachs, but don’t know if that was when they met.
I’m heading out…… maybe going to bed early will help….
Can’t hurt. Sleep well.
Query: I gather from context that New Trier High School is not your run-of-the-mill public school?
And ordinary folks would never have to try to share a dwelling in the midst of this sort of mishegass, would they?
With a $400 haircut I could be… aw, who am I kidding, I’ll never be pretty. Once in awhile I belt out that song from West Side Story anyway.
hope tomorrow is a better day (((katy)))
G’nite, katy.
{{{Katy}}} deep, restful sleep to you…
i got divorced in 2001. entirely the fault of gays who got married in 2009. right?
No it is not. She was raised in Winnetka, which is one of the wealthiest suburbs in the country and home to a lot of old money. average household income is $277,371.
Gay folk OWN the space/time continuum, doncha know. I think they were the missing element that prevented Einstein from devising a working unified field theory.
Time for me to head out. Wishing a splendid evening to all.
You been talking to DLoco or whoever yesterday’s troll was? ‘cuz you gotta post hoc fallacy problem too…
Oh. I missed the snark markers…
Can I blame them for mine which all occurred before 1990?
On another topic, Dan Choi and Jared Polis were here this weekend for the unveiling of the Pink Triangle, a large installation that goes up every Pride Weekend on Twin Peaks — huge fabric panels stretched out in a triangle, that you can see all the way down Market Street, the symbol from the Nazi regime of homosexuals that we have appropriated as our own.
Just saw on the local news that someone lit it on fire Saturday night. The volunteers taking it down tonight were really shaken up. It’s 2009, in San Francisco, and these hate crimes still occur.
As in Big Noise from Winnetka???
isn’t her family big in power tools?
She’s an heiress to the Skil Power Tool fortune.
Hey… mine was 1993. Maybe Betsy’s on to something? Do teh gayz have Faster Than Light drives?
jeez teddy – that’s terrible!
Oh, and there was a violent police raid on a gay bar in Fort Worth last night, too:
I’ve seen as “an heiress” and “the” heiress. Do you know which it is?
Not that it matters… rich beyond avarice or richer than Croesus, who cares.
I suspect so. Lots of big noise in Winnetka.
When does your summer class end, Dick? Mine is over Thursday, and I’m going to be one grateful unit. I haven’t taught a summer course in ages…
Fort Worth is not, never has been, and likely never will be a beacon of enlightenment. The cops there are also notorious assholes.
Last Thursday. 8-)
I have been a free man for three days. I’m going hiking in the morning (really, honest I am and not on the Appalachian Trail either).
She was working for Lazard Freres on Wall Street when she met Mark.
She is a granddaughter of the founder of Skil Corp. which was the maker of the famous electric saws…Bolton Sullivan. She has a reputation as being a very sharp, capable and dignified woman.
Her website as First Lady of SC:
http://www.scgovernor.com/about/jenny/
Unfortunately, it is impossible to win a decisive permanent victory over the forces of ignorance. The battles continue.
Mostly because there is no cure for or vaccination against ignorance and stupidity.
That goes for most of Texas … there are supposed to be a few bastions of sanity like Austin. But generally, yeccch.
More reports from the Fort Worth raid here
Lucky you.
Don’t make a wrong turn and run into the Argentine Tail… and look out for the wolves and bears, eh?
We had one just like that in our party in the 1990s; remember how the GOP called Hillary a ball-busting harridan?
thanks – that is what i remembered about wall street – the gov was working at goldman
We lived near Fort Worth when I was little. Bunch of morons there. Austin is better.
I’ve always called mine the MFTL, the More Fabulous Than Light drive.
edited to fix formatting.
Actually saw a bear on the trail I am taking tomorrow a couple of years ago. It was crossing the trail about 50 yards ahead of where I was and did not see me. I decided my hike was over for the day and headed back. I also always take bear spray with me now. Actually need to worry more about the mountain lions than the bears. Yeah, they are up there too and have attacked people on the trails.
Fort Worth is where Dallas keeps its rednecks.
Oh, What the hell! That’s insane.
Why is it that Texas and Kansas can both, so regularly, make my head explode?
Report on one Rainbow Lounge victim:
Back in the day I saw a black bear while I was hiking up in Mineral King. I didn’t think much of it until I saw two cubs in the meadow I was going to set up camp in. I decided that I was going to head back a mile or so…
They are bracketing Oklahoma and trying vainly to hold all the crazy in. (FWIW, I am a native Okie though long gone from there).
Wise move. I had to call another hike short when a guy coming back down the trail reported a sow and cub in a meadow about half a mile ahead. You do not get anywhere near a bear with a cub.
Oh dear, is OK even worse? (I can’t think of anything that made my head go all ’splodey coming out of there)
anybody else get the feeling that “hiking on the Appalachian Trail” is going to take on a whole new meaning now?
yup
While never a bastion of enlightenment or sanity, it has become a black hole of crazy in the past 20 years. Its Senators are James Inhoffe and Tom Coburn. The latter made news for claiming girls in southeast Oklahoma (a very rural, very redneck area) couldn’t go into the restrooms because of an epidemic of lesbianism. I am not making this up.
G’nite firepups.
Well, I can’t answer for Texas. But I attended graduate school in the Jayhawk State, and maybe I can kinda ’splain it.
Kansans have had schizophrenia since the Territorial days, and they’ve never gotten past it. Half the state thinks that Quantrill made a good start when he and his gang sacked Lawrence. Hell, if they’d let the K-Staters get away with it, they’d re-enact the sack of Lawrence at least once a year…
Because they’ve never really come to grips with that aspect of their history, they can be by turns amazingly liberal and then immediately turn around and be incredibly reactionary. I lived there for 11 years (stayed for a while after finishing my phd) and I never got them completely figured out.
Their death penalty statute illustrates Kansans fairly well. They allow capital punishment for first degree murder with special circumstances. Among the special circumstances are kidnapping and sexual assault (these are separate qualifiers). But there is another special circumstance of murdering a kidnapped minor with a sexual assault.
Now, why do you need that? That just clutters up the statutes. But it’s Kansas.
I mean – people do it – it’s a serious, some say life-changing kind of thing.
From here on though, I think that it’s going to just draw guffaws.
pain free sleep wishes tex
Oh, I forgot about the senators. Okay, OK has things that make my head go ’splodey
I read that story about Coburn to Mrs BC (an alumna of The University of Oklahoma). Her reaction was, “What? Quit making stuff up about Oklahoma!” I handed her the newspaper…
and it is a lovely place that depends on tourism. hope it generates more instead of being tainted with the gov and less people visit the region.
the r’s who snickered about the blue dress are gonna be snickering inside and trying to keep a straight face at all the trail jokes
I am heading out. I really am going to hike the Rattlesnake tomorrow, so I need my rest. Take care all.
g’nite dr (pause) dick
Oh, absolutely, I just think we’re not quite clear on its new meaning.
Does it just mean “adultery” or is travel to Argentina a requirement?
‘night Dick. Have a great hike tomorrow, take lots of pictures.
“Epidemic of Lesbianism” weren’t they an alternative band in the 80’s? (And if not, someone should form a band with that name now)
I know the feeling. I spent the first 35 years there (Ph.D., OU 87) and I swear it was not that crazy when I was there. Right after I left in ‘87 it started getting really batshit crazy.
I suggest that the proper usage should be, “Hiking for Argentine Tail.”
Good night, DrDick. Have fun on the hike.
We left around the same time, then. I left in 1987. While it was a fairly conservative place, it wasn’t batshit crazy. Now it’s batshit crazy…
Well, there’s Ethel and the Shameless Hussies.
Well folks, it’s time for me to head out as well. I think it’s finally cool enough to sleep.
Have fun everyone. I’ll leave the pitcher of ice cold chocolate martinis here for you all.
thanks for the chocolate martinis and g’nite beard
Badda bing.
g’night beard
The worst Senate delegation in the nation by far.
-G
They DO eat their own, and others, too, I’ve heard.
Allus best to hide yer wimmen’s and chllen when they come round.
Hmmmm. Definitely nominees.
But Texas has Kay Bailey Hutchinson and John “Post Turtle” Cornyn. Kansas has Pat Roberts and Sam Brownback … there are definitely other nominees.
Thanks Teddy. Well done.
hey, SN, thanks!
Unless you were downwind and TOTALLY silent, a bear, and especially a grizzly at 50 yards, would have had you in their radar assortment.
How you escaped that radar is . . . . lucky. And yes, cats are quiter and more deadly.
Do you have some kind of “PoofBeGone”? LOL
Love yer backwoods stories . . . . I had some of them long ago in my teens and early 20’s in The Sierra’s.
No grizzly’s, though . . *G*
This is begging for a calling of some ‘presence’ in dispute of the forces used.
And I put that mildly.
What a shit thing on a perfectly good day of rememberance.
According to Wall St. bankers that’s not really enough to live on. They would think that’s a poor neighborhood.