Comments on: 1969-2009: The Years of Ash and Tears http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:29:35 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Gnome de Plume http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925510 Gnome de Plume Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:56:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925510 <p>I came late to your essay, but thank you muchly. I look back on 1969 fondly for the profound changes it wrought in me. I was 16. I am one of those who never forsook the revolution philosophically. </p> <p>And GWB? I said when he was selected that he and Cheney would be the end of the Republican Party as we know it. I knew he was a destroyer. I was not wrong, but I get dismayed looking at how much we need to fix. </p> <p>Interesting bookends - All that happened in ‘69 and to see it rise from the ash in 2009. May it be so.</p> I came late to your essay, but thank you muchly. I look back on 1969 fondly for the profound changes it wrought in me. I was 16. I am one of those who never forsook the revolution philosophically.

And GWB? I said when he was selected that he and Cheney would be the end of the Republican Party as we know it. I knew he was a destroyer. I was not wrong, but I get dismayed looking at how much we need to fix.

Interesting bookends – All that happened in ‘69 and to see it rise from the ash in 2009. May it be so.

]]> By: Glenn W. Smith http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925466 Glenn W. Smith Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:58:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925466 <p>I had the same feeling, what was left that could shock? Oh, GWB.</p> I had the same feeling, what was left that could shock? Oh, GWB.

]]> By: bernie68 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925463 bernie68 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:54:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925463 <p>Thanks for this post….I almost ‘gave up’ in the 70s, 80’s and 90s.<br /> But I know that we — I — had ideals then and I have the same now.<br /> I think you speak for a lot of us in this post. 1968-1969 amazing years. </p> <p>I thought that nothing could shock me after those years — then along came George and I knew that I had been wrong again.</p> Thanks for this post….I almost ‘gave up’ in the 70s, 80’s and 90s.
But I know that we — I — had ideals then and I have the same now.
I think you speak for a lot of us in this post. 1968-1969 amazing years.

I thought that nothing could shock me after those years — then along came George and I knew that I had been wrong again.

]]> By: Larue http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925297 Larue Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:56:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925297 <p>No sir . . . <a href="mailto:laruepork@netzero.com" rel="nofollow">laruepork@netzero.com</a></p> No sir . . . laruepork@netzero.com

]]> By: Glenn W. Smith http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925290 Glenn W. Smith Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:13:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925290 <p>Mile23, emaho!!</p> Mile23, emaho!!

]]> By: Glenn W. Smith http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925289 Glenn W. Smith Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:11:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925289 <p>Well, no, doesn’t hold up to that…</p> Well, no, doesn’t hold up to that…

]]> By: ondelette http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925263 ondelette Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:17:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925263 <p>So a bit of Buddhist trivia (not so trivial really). Since quite early, the name of this bodhisattva has been Avalokiteshvara, which translates from the Sanskrit as “One who looks down from on high”. A few years ago, someone (I’m lazy to go look it up again) posted an article on the internet theorizing that if it had been mistranscribed, and was originally Avalokitashvara, it would mean “One who listens to the sounds”. Which fits a text in which Avalokitashvara is told to listen first to the sounds of the world, then inside himself, then…by the Buddha, and attains enlightenment. </p> <p>I bought this, since in Chinese, he/she (becomes female in China during the Song dynasty or so) is called guan shi yin, “One who listens to the sounds (cries) of the world”, the Japanese taking this into Kan ze on. Hence the bodhisattva of compassion or mercy. It got very little traction though, if you google “Avalokitashvara”, google asks you to change the spelling, and ignores your spelling to a large degree in its stemmer. However, the theory proved accurate, new documents excavated along the Silk Road descending branch show that originally it really was Avalokitashvara, the one who listens to sounds. I expect it to become mainstream about the same time Arthur Waley’s predictions about Lao Tzu become mainstream — i.e. probably never.</p> <p>And if you think that’s fun, a great pass time is to try to reconstruct the path of Buddhism to Tibet taking into account the Little Ice Age, or just try to figure out which route Roman traders took to get to China.</p> So a bit of Buddhist trivia (not so trivial really). Since quite early, the name of this bodhisattva has been Avalokiteshvara, which translates from the Sanskrit as “One who looks down from on high”. A few years ago, someone (I’m lazy to go look it up again) posted an article on the internet theorizing that if it had been mistranscribed, and was originally Avalokitashvara, it would mean “One who listens to the sounds”. Which fits a text in which Avalokitashvara is told to listen first to the sounds of the world, then inside himself, then…by the Buddha, and attains enlightenment.

I bought this, since in Chinese, he/she (becomes female in China during the Song dynasty or so) is called guan shi yin, “One who listens to the sounds (cries) of the world”, the Japanese taking this into Kan ze on. Hence the bodhisattva of compassion or mercy. It got very little traction though, if you google “Avalokitashvara”, google asks you to change the spelling, and ignores your spelling to a large degree in its stemmer. However, the theory proved accurate, new documents excavated along the Silk Road descending branch show that originally it really was Avalokitashvara, the one who listens to sounds. I expect it to become mainstream about the same time Arthur Waley’s predictions about Lao Tzu become mainstream — i.e. probably never.

And if you think that’s fun, a great pass time is to try to reconstruct the path of Buddhism to Tibet taking into account the Little Ice Age, or just try to figure out which route Roman traders took to get to China.

]]> By: ratfood http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925243 ratfood Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:38:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925243 <p>Totally snubbed by the Academy!</p> Totally snubbed by the Academy!

]]> By: Mile23 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925236 Mile23 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:27:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925236 <p>Chenrezig is a Tibetan deity transformed into a Buddhist saint when Buddhism took over Tibet. Chenrezig took on the form of Avalokiteshvara, and here’s a story about him:</p> <p>Chenrezig climbed up on a mountain and saw all the suffering of all sentient beings and cried a single tear. The tear fell to the ground and became a vast lake, out of which rose a lotus. And in the lotus was Tara, the Mother Of Liberation. A lake of tears before liberation is found.</p> <p>See also <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Sutra" rel="nofollow">the Heart Sutra</a>. :-)</p> Chenrezig is a Tibetan deity transformed into a Buddhist saint when Buddhism took over Tibet. Chenrezig took on the form of Avalokiteshvara, and here’s a story about him:

Chenrezig climbed up on a mountain and saw all the suffering of all sentient beings and cried a single tear. The tear fell to the ground and became a vast lake, out of which rose a lotus. And in the lotus was Tara, the Mother Of Liberation. A lake of tears before liberation is found.

See also the Heart Sutra. :-)

]]> By: Jkat http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925235 Jkat Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:26:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/1969-2009-the-years-of-ash-and-tears/#comment-1925235 <p>it just can’t hold up to: </p> <p>“Ohhhh-ho darlin’</p> <p> please believe me ..</p> <p> i’lll never do you no harm .. </p> <p>believe me when i tell you-hoo …</p> <p>i’ll never do you ..</p> <p>no wrong ..”</p> it just can’t hold up to:

“Ohhhh-ho darlin’

please believe me ..

i’lll never do you no harm ..

believe me when i tell you-hoo …

i’ll never do you ..

no wrong ..”

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