Jenny Sanford’s statement to the media is one big dog whistle to the fundy faithful. She’s hanging him out to dry, big time, using some heavy guns to do it. She is NOT taking this lying down.
I personally believe that the greatest legacy I will leave behind in this world is not the job I held on Wall Street, or the campaigns I managed for Mark, or the work I have done as First Lady or even the philanthropic activities in which I have been routinely engaged. Instead, the greatest legacy I will leave in this world is the character of the children I, or we, leave behind. It is for that reason that I deeply regret the recent actions of my husband Mark, and their potential damage to our children.
Shorter Jenny: Even though I haven’t been the model of a stay-at-home wife for all my marriage, that’s where my heart is. Too bad that’s not where Mark’s was.
Ouch. That "I, or we" slips the knife quite cleanly between the ribs, doesn’t it?
I believe wholeheartedly in the sanctity, dignity and importance of the institution of marriage. I believe that has been consistently reflected in my actions. When I found out about my husband’s infidelity I worked immediately to first seek reconciliation through forgiveness, and then to work diligently to repair our marriage. We reached a point where I felt it was important to look my sons in the eyes and maintain my dignity, self-respect, and my basic sense of right and wrong. I therefore asked my husband to leave two weeks ago.
Shorter Jenny: I respect marriage, even though he doesn’t. I’ve consistently acted like I respect marriage, even though he didn’t. I believe in reconciliation, forgiveness, and hard work to make marriage work, even though he doesn’t. I think of my sons, even though he doesn’t. So I booted his ass.
This trial separation was agreed to with the goal of ultimately strengthening our marriage. During this short separation it was agreed that Mark would not contact us. I kept this separation quiet out of respect of his public office and reputation, and in hopes of keeping our children from just this type of public exposure. Because of this separation, I did not know where he was in the past week.
Shorter Jenny: I understand discretion and protecting one’s reputation, even though he doesn’t.
Now for the big guns:
I believe enduring love is primarily a commitment and an act of will, and for a marriage to be successful, that commitment must be reciprocal. I believe Mark has earned a chance to resurrect our marriage.
Psalm 127 states that sons are a gift from the Lord and children a reward from Him. I will continue to pour my energy into raising our sons to be honorable young men. I remain willing to forgive Mark completely for his indiscretions and to welcome him back, in time, if he continues to work toward reconciliation with a true spirit of humility and repentance.
Psalm 127 is at the heart of the "Quiverfull" folks — a far right evangelical movement, devoted to extreme patriarchal gender roles, homeschooling, and of course they are against any form of birth control or abortion.
Hauling out Psalm 127 is hitting Mark Sanford across the head with a two by four in evangelical circles. "God gave you these boys as a gift, and you scorned it. You mocked it. You treated them like dirt, and in so doing you treated God like dirt. You didn’t just disrespect me — you disrespected God."
This is a very painful time for us and I would humbly request now that members of the media respect the privacy of my boys and me as we struggle together to continue on with our lives and as I seek the wisdom of Solomon, the strength and patience of Job and the grace of God in helping to heal my family.
Here’s Jenny’s only mis-step, I think. Yes, Solomon is the example of great wisdom, but he also had seven hundred wives and three hundred concubines (see 1 Kings 11) . I’m not sure that’s exactly where she wanted to go.
Even so, asking for Solomon’s wisdom and Job’s patience is another one-two smack at Mark’s head with her Bible.
The only thing missing from the statement is a fine Southern "Bless his heart" to tie it all up with a bow.
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Not bad from a wench from Winnetka
Excellent, Peterr. She smacked him good and I approve. Now he has to face his state. Whoops!
*sound of Skil heiress changepurse snapping shut*
Sanford mentioned that he had a conversation with his father-in-law two weeks ago. Sounds like Jenny summoned her parents as the affair reached its apogee; my question is, though: did Sanford intend to return from Argentina when he departed? Five days is a long time to say goodbye to a mistress of one year. Perhaps he planned to make a life for her there, but was discouraged when the lady discovered that the Skil money stayed with the wife and sons?
Gina Smith, reporter for The State, tells Rachel that the emails were an sent to them anonymously.
that ain’t all that snapped shut. . .
“Changepurse” being a pseudo-Chaucerian simile.
Argentina is where Nazi war criminals and Blue Meanies seek refuge. Guess that makes Jenny commander of the Allied Forces.
And in those e-mails he talks about “love” – he is in love with the other woman. How could Jenny take him back after that? He spent five days crying because he had to leave his mistress. Kick him to the curb.
the wife is my guess. she was betrayed by this man and he continued to betray her by seeing his mistress.
Sometimes referred to as a “moneymaker.”
You mean she and Mrs. Hampton are New Trier kids? Things must have changed since I had friends up there. Fundamentally speaking, that is.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Someone needs to explain this Sanford quote to me:
“The odyssey that we’re all on in life is with regard to heart.”
You KNOW someone as uncultured as me wouldn’t have known that! But I do know Krupa playing “The Big Noise From Winnetka
Catholic, gramps anyway
He was named a Knight of St. Gregory by Pope Pius XII.
I’m liking the idea of the father-in-law doing the sending.
The first para is hilarious too:
“I would like to start by saying I love my husband and I believe I have put forth every effort possible to be the best wife I can be during our almost twenty years of marriage…. I have faithfully… I have been… I”
NOTHING about how they loved each other or mutually supported each other or what he did to contribute to the relationship (or anything else, for that matter).. and nothing about their mutual commitment to work things out. Just her duty in loyally fulfilling her wifely responsibilities… to an unfaithful slimeball of a hypocritical jackarse.
Is my memory failing me, or didn’t a Democratic president once get impeached by the House for adultery and lying about it. And isn’t lying about being in the Appalachians the same as lying about blue dresses? Geeeesh.
Did he say “heart” or “hard?”
She made her repuke fundie bed, she can lie in it.
Sorry, but her bible can’t compete with the lord’s most basic commandment to grandstanding political christian men: “Thou shalt seek ever perkier tits.”
Has the object of Sanford’s affections been identified?
I’m not convinced that he went down there to do the ‘it’s not working’ speech to his lady friend. And I also think that he did not plan on coming back so soon…I think someone from his staff got to him and told him, “Get your ass back up here..RIGHT NOW! The press are all over this like chewing gum on your shoe and your wife is just standing there and saying, “I have no idea..”
i’ll teach that sob to cheat on my daughter.
yeah – i could see that. the emails came from the wife or her family. maybe they were sent to the paper in an effort to get him to stop cheating on the wife and get him back in line.
Lotte Lenya? Oh, that was Austria.
Oh great Scot, or something.
Yep, I caught that “I believe I have put forth every effort possible to be the best wife I can be during our almost twenty years of marriage…”, too. I think that’s her not very secret message to any fundies out there that might try to make the claim that she did not ‘do her part’ to keep Sanford close to home.
Lots of sheep in Argentina. Just sayin’…
Maybe pops sent one of these as a message.
I think that ship has already sailed. Much too late for old Mark.
She was good in From Russia With Love. Ya gotta dig those shoes.
Why has this any traction at FDL? Maybe for the after hours columns?
Her statements make me gag.
the paper has had the emails since december. plenty of time for him to stop seeing her. he didn’t.
makes me wonder who started the whole where is the gov this weekend?
I stepped up on the platform
The man gave me the news
He said, You must be joking son
Where did you get those shoes?
Where did you get those shoes?
Well, I’ve seen ‘em on the TV, the movie show
They say the times are changing but I just don’t know
These things are gone forever
Over a long time ago, oh yeah
María de Buenos Aires
Right about now she might feel as if 70 nails have been drilled into her.
Really makes you wonder what the relationship was there – “I promise to love, honor and cherish..your daddy’s money” or something like that?
Yea, what the fuck, can’t we whine about Obama?
Some things never change.
Fox News Identifies Sanford As A Democrat
NO!
I think she’s making the case for a Huge Settlement. Outlining her income contributions to the family via Wall Street, working on HIS political campaigns….serving as HIS First Lady and doing the philanthropy thing expected of political wives (instead of more challenging finance) and of course breeding his DNA four times.
She will leave with mega bucks and arranged jobs.
She’s the one with the money already.
Jedidiah, he’s got a dime
Says he catch a more fish, every time
Well I’ve got a line, and you’ve got a pole
And I’ll meet you at the fishin’ hole
You’ve got to put on your sailin shoes
Put on your sailin’ shoes
Everyone will start to cheer
When you put on your sailin’ shoes
hold it.. so fundies would actually argue that it is a woman’s responsibility to keep her husband from being an adulterous letch? Isn’t that kinda like prosecutions of rape victims in Taliban-occupied regions of Pakistan?
“When this legislative session ends, son-in-law, why don’t you go to your Argentine whore and leave my daughter and grandsons alone? Oh, and leave your black AmEx card on the dresser. You won’t find it working anymore.”
I’m sure I’ve bored you about seeing them at the Auditorium?
Does that make Sanford the goblin poet? I can see it.
I think you mentioned it. That was with Lowell, right? Must’ve been great.
My bird’s favorite Feat tune is “Dixie Chicken.”
Not that far from Lynchburg now is it?
Yes!
Mrs Haggard was blamed for not being attractive and “available” to Ted, necessitating he seek the solace of meth-dealing male hookers.
So ya think there is some big difference between the fundies and the taliban? I have heard some of these fundy guys saying that their wives owe them sex regardless of how they feel.
Yep, Lowell. Very near the time the Amazing Rhythm Aces played the T-Bird.
Weeellll, at least we now know why the Bush administration and Cheney’s office destroyed so many millions of e-mails…all those steamy, sexual Republican messages between top officials in the Bush administration.
I can just see them now….
No, no, no, the Republicans didn’t destroy all those e-mails because torture was discussed as well as how they could somehow paint legal lipstick on that torture pig, nor was there any discussion about stealing elections or lying about going to war in Iraq…it was all that sex, sex, sex…that was the sole thrust of many of those “family values” Bush White House communications. Yep. Yep.
It was all okay, Ted didn’t inhale. Also claimed he mistakenly believed the hooker was legendary wrestler Dick the Bruiser.
We used to have such a good music scene around these parts. Those days are gone.
So if The State had the emails and wanted to tell Sanford so, but he cut off communications after being asked at the airport this morning about his trip to Argentina, he isn’t really the standup guy Chris Matthews tried to make him today on Hardball. He was, instead, a cornered rat who decided he needed to come clean with his own version of the story before The State published the emails he wouldn’t talk to them about.
Not nearly the example of upright male rectitude he was portrayed as this afternoon by his fellow-gender apologists.
Huh, actually that “booted his ass” part you called out…whatever her justifications, doesn’t that mean she doesn’t respect the sanctity of marriage? If she’s made a vow to the LORD, who is she to decide to kick him out?
Yea, Hamilton Spencer in King Henry’s Pub, Sam and Dave at the Poison Apple, Asleep at the Wheel at Ruby Gulch!
That’s the Catholic mixed up with the Baptist.
Did you happen to see Michael Urbaniak at Ruby Gulch?
What’s that old saying about throwing stones and glass houses?
Man, I don’t think so, I left in 84, But I did help build the joint.
Now the Rs will have Haley Barbour as the face of the R governors. Oh, joy. He’s a thug and about as no class as you can get.
According to the Reporter at State who broke the story, someone at the paper said they’ve had the emails since December.
I think Urbaniak was early to mid ’70s. They were touring an album called Fusion III at the time.
We also used to get people like Fred Frith in town. Those were the days.
Did they say why they withheld the news?
If they ran every story about pols committing adultery they wouldn’t have room for much else. Might boost circulation though.
Sanford Was Pushed Into Confession
Sanford was clearly still peddling the “I was alone driving along the coast of BA” this morning at the airport.
No, she just said that someone in her office said they’d had them since December. She also made sure to add that she only recently found out about them.
Heh, María might think so by now, and she the bumpkin. There’s also a soulful mistrel or payador character.
this is all rather grotesque. Perhaps The guv should break out into a rousing rendition of “Don’t cry for me America”
sorry… couldn’t resist. There isn’t any chance Maria is underage is there? ;P
Wow, the circuits are blown! I didn’t think you were that old.
foxhole conversion
How do we know it is a woman? After all, we ARE talking about a Republican here. I heard him on TV this morning, didn’t catch all of it, but heard something to the effect that he was unfaithful to his wife, it was with a very, very good friend. The word “man-friend” immediately came to mind.
Don’t Cry for Me Ike and Tina!
Now if it were Rio????
My older brother saw Urbaniak and bought the album, which I proceeded to wear out. I was the last of four kids, more of an afterthought, really. Spent my formative years around people older than me.
Gotcha. Did he know the Chin’s people and the Record Service crowd?
When this thing becomes ‘The Movie of the Week”, I’m hoping they ask John Goodman to play Mr. Skil Saw: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm674142208/tt0190590
She also said that they were sent anonymously. I’d imagine that some time was spent in “shoe leather” journalism to authenticate them.
Honestly, what bothers me most about this story is that a GOVERNOR went AWOL for nearly a week. Just WALKED OFF THE JOB. My old employer had a policy of “if you don’t show/don’t call and we don’t hear from ya for 3 days, we will consider you to have resigned.” And he LEFT THE COUNTRY! And without making arragnements for SC to be governed in case of an emergency. To me, the dick swingin’ is just a shiny object; the pecidillo(s) is/are not the reson he should resign. It’s the, basically, dereliction of duty. Oh, and his gross, rank hypocrisy sure as @#!@ doesn’t help him either.
Feh!
FunnyWheelieDiva
commander of the SC National Guard too. What it teh gay invaded?
Yeah, the crowd on tweety were lower’n a snake’s belly. I might just be forced to watch a few of scar in the morning to catch the reaction from that bunch. Speaking of someone with his own mistakes to cover up.
It’s Mario, not Maria. And he is probably underage.
Couldn’t resist.
Probably, of course the Chins were an institution. He spent some time hanging out with Joe Walsh when Joe was dating some young local thing. Maybe not dating so much as you know…
roger,
gotta crash, peace out
I think Jenny was reminding her husband that she built him from the ground up and she was not going to let him drag her down:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..20506.html
“During Mark Sanford’s first gubernatorial campaign in 2002, Jenny ran the show from the basement of their Sullivans Island beach house while he fretted as the wind blew his charts off of tripods during outdoor press conferences…by the time Mark Sanford ran for a second and final term in as governor in 2006, and Jenny Sanford let him hire a professional consultant, although she still called most of the shots. Since Mark Sanford first took office in 2003, Jenny has been a regular at morning meetings with top staff.Observers noted she hasn’t been seen as much lately, but it was clear from Wednesday’s developments that she has been managing her side of the house.”
Have a good one.
Peterr, thanks for the interp. I know a couple people who have talked about ‘Quivers full’ but I hadn’t grasped the full significance of what they meant.
Maybe Sanford will be better going forward; that leading a double life thing sounds quite exhausting.
Or a bridge collapsed or a water main blew or, whatever.
That’s why I say ‘dereliction of duty’.
And everyone but KO and commenters here seem to be missing that point.
FWDiva
Nite, Raven.
Oh, boy… sounds like Sanford was looking for some breathing room and maybe found it with Ms Argentina…
So it goes.
Today has been really busy at the Lake and maybe I missed something but has anyone found out how many times Sanford has been to Argentina?
Anybody here tonight who’s had the intestinal fortitude to see what’s being said on the red sites?
I hardly have the intestinal fortitude to read this stuff here!
Bye!
so much for the fight for the sanctitty of marriage…
I completely agree. Especially after everything he had to say about Clinton during impeachment.
I was speculating that it might have been Jenny who sent the emails to the State. Who else knew about the affair?
Very slick indeed!
Does anybody else think this sounds like Jenny Sanford setting up her own political future?
The difference being we’re having fun…..somehow I don’t think that’s gonna be the mood on the other side of the fence.
I can see the Argentinian girlfriend as a chanteuse masquerading as a pole dancer.
Based on the tone of her written statement, that might be a safe bet. She sounds like a real “don’t mess with me, bud” kind of person.
That was my first take. Governor? Senator? She’s also positioning herself to take down a nice settlement. She’s definitely working some angles.
Oh, you know they’re gonna be putin’ the blame on “those damn lib’ruls.”
That’s my guess.
that lunatic fringe? ahhh yes.
Fox News Identifies Sanford As A Democrat
If it went on as long as it (apparently) did, more than a few knew of it, I’m guessing.
Reporter: “Lemme get this straight. You want to run for Senator because your soon to be ex-husband, our former governor, was screwing around on you? That’s it?”
They don’t miss a beat.
I saw that. Didn’t take FuxGnus long for that to pop up. Again.
From the clip Rachel had tonight, it looked like Jenny hand-carried her written statement out to the reporters staked out at the beach. She didn’t look happy, but she didn’t look devastated either. Smiling, but steely.
You want fun? Guffaws? Read this:
http://bojack.org/2009/06/port…..l#comments
Mayor Sam Adams and his adventures in liar land.
Of course, if Jenny was Mark’s campaign manager and attended staff meetings every morning, she could very well be the one with The Rolodex.
An innocent mistake, I am certain.
Peterr !
Great Post … just catching up with all the side- splitting humor at the Lake today …
the butler did it.
night, gang….
Yeah, that’s on-topic and not at all diversionary: look, ma, Democrats can’t keep it in their pants, either.
Hi Adie !
Bye Adie !
Now that he has been neutered Mark will be a happier dog. He might still bark occasionally but he won’t venture out of the yard.
How many times have they done that ?
Real journalists, huh ?
I’ll have to go look for that clip.
But “steely” would fit the way I imagined her in my head as I wrote this. She is not happy, but she’s not about to meekly let this all go by with a “woe is me.”
Petro!!
I thought humor was the topic.
I hope he gets rehab’d by the same folks who rehab’d Ted Haggard … /s
Jeff Dunham and his puppet Walter have a great line:
All you can do is go to the end of your chain and bark.
HA! Not sure ya wanna go down to mayor level. The amount of Repub problems at that level will fill the servers here. Nice effort though, Starfuck.
And/or teh gays and the lib’rul media……there was a lot of that “dems shouldn’t be making political hay out of this family tragedy” this afternoon on the idjit box. Gad! Can you imagine the nasty verbage every thug in DC would be throwing had the shoe been on the other foot? But Dog forbid there should be a peep from any dem.
I can see the tech boys just yukkin’ it up. Like 8th graders tying or fitting a rubber onto a classroom doorknob.
Ted is like, TOTALLY cured, dood. No wait, there he goes again…
When I first heard that Sanford was missing, and his wife’s comment that he said he needed to write, without the boys around, went out days earlier and doesn’t know where he is, I thought, “Nor does it sound like she cares to know. She’s certainly not asking.”
Then today, with the “steamy email”, I thought, “Is Sanford dumb enough to have used .gov email? How else could the media have gotten ahold of the email?”
According to Gina Smith who broke the story, it was a private email account and her newspaper doesn’t know where the email came from. They just know it’s a private account of Sanford’s–That much was verified.
Could Jenny have been monitoring his email and forwarded it to the newspaper?
cheers backatcha!
I gotta leave so Starbuck will enjoy the humor. & i ain’t even a gramma.
Go find Bill McDonald’s comment down the chain a bit. He pro ports to write for Jay Leno, and it shows.
While party politics is alive and well in Oregon, at this level it is not the front and center concern.
Ya gotta stop laughin’ afore ya can make hay.
Makes sense, you never know what you’ll catch from a dirty knob.
Totally o/t but very nice to see something being done about threats from the reich wingers:
Radio Host Is Arrested in Threats on 3 Judges
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06…..038;ref=us
iwillneverdoitagain
iwillneverdoitagain
iwillneverdoitagain
LOL !!!
I Blame
ClintonObama ! – via HuffPoThe bit that really stood out for as well was the “…children I, or we, leave behind.” OUCH! Really signals this was a long simmering thing, and can we assume there have been others?
I mean, if this was never exposed now, we’d still be seeing Guv. FathersDay all over BigMedia, and HuffPo, titled “Potential Presidential Candidate,” and Jenny would be all Patsy Cline-like.
I guess “Jenny” ended up getting Tommy TwoTime’s number instead. 867-530-LIES.
Keef was having waaaay too much fun with the subject tonight….but he still managed to make some hay. *G*
There has to be more than Foley, McCain & Sanford that have been improperly identified with a (D) on Fox. Can anyone remember?
*chuckle*
*snicker*
*snort*
Oh, what the hell!……ROTFLMAO
Craig
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Stalin and Hitler. /s
there’s a masters thesis in here somewhere.
oogh. not worth killing a tree.
One of the lefty blogs had a bunch of them listed tonight….sorry, can’t remember which at the moment. Maybe C&L or surely Media Matters will have something. But there have been a BUNCH! Guess faux assumes their viewers are so stoopid that they’ve never noticed sanford being groomed for 2012; probably a good assumption.
You forgot Tojo and Hirohito.
Not to mention Saddam, Osama, and Mohamed Atta.
I said this when asshats like Mark Sanford were calling for Bill Clinton’s head in 1998, so I’m going to say it again.
Sanford’s affair with Maria de Buenos Aires is none of our business. It is Jenny Sanford’s business, and if she wants his testicles in a sack on the mantle over the fireplace, that’s her problem or privilege or whatever.
What is our business (well, more properly South Carolinian’s business) are the following:
1. Their governor went AWOL for five days, without assigning executive power to his Lieutenant Governor. Now, I understand that the Light Governor and Sanford are not exactly good buddies. It’s a shame, but it happens. That doesn’t mean you get to go AWOL, you’ve got to leave someone in charge. Constitutionally, that means your Light Gov. If you can’t bear that thought, then you don’t get a leave-of-absence. The South Carolina Lege ought to call itself into session to investigate the matter.
2. Governor Sanford apparently took at least three trips to Argentina on State funds. Did Governor Sanford meet with Maria de Buenos Aires on any (or all) of those trips? Exactly what (and how much) State business was conducted on those junkets? The South Carolina Lege ought to investigate that matter.
3. Most governments have usage rules on telecomm equipment (including computers.) Did Governor Sanford use his official state accounts or equipment to communicate with Maria de Buenos Aires? He apparently used an official State Police unit to travel to the airport. Is this in keeping with government policy? The South Carolina Lege might want to investigate the misuse of State resources.
And Republicans claim to be fiscally responsible. At least Elliot Spitzer managed to keep his travel budget down (if nothing else).
Only 9,997 more to go, Adie.
The “affair” is their business but that doesn’t mean I can’t hold him and his party up to ridicule for their hypocrisy.
What about the lies upon lies, including during his supposed “admission” press conference. He contradicts his own stories.
I’m with ya on that one, SD. I’ve been having fun with this all day … well, all afternoon long.
I will also point out that I called it in an Oxdown comment last night: hiking on the AppTrail was a ruse, and I wondered where he was (and who he was boning.) Didn’t speculate, just asked the question.
Republicans, the comedic gift that just keeps on giving.
Well, if there’s any truth in the news reports, make that TWO vehicles – one left at the SC airport and the second in Atlanta. Another question to add to your list is how did one person manage to leave two state vehicles in two different locations?
That’s all Spitzer managed to keep down !
*ba dum pum*
Unless and until Randi Rhodes gets her law on the books, lying isn’t a crime unless you lie to law enforcement.
I think that Randi might have a point: we need a law on the books that says anytime a politician or political appointee speaks on the record they are speaking under oath and vulnerable to perjury charges if they lie. I’m sure there are problems with that related to national security.
Yep. I’m the freakin’ president of my kid’s school PTA and even *I* make sure stuff’s covered when I’m gone for a few days.
Others have said this, and I agree. The affair is a shiny object. Sanford’s toast due to irresponsibility in office and rank hypocrisy.
It’s a fun shiny object, though. *g*
My favorite Sanford Berra-ism of today:
Huh?
I think that’s a news garble, Waccamaw.
*And* it was a lot closer to seven days….or at the very least six if you count today he spent trying to prepare for the presser as state business.
Make it against the law for politicians to lie? They would provide public health care for every human on Earth before passing that.
I said 5 minutes before the presser was supposed to start that he was havin’ a 5 day quickie with his honey in Buenos Aires. First thing that came into my mind when I found out he was in Argentina. # 14 in that long ass thread.
4. The governor worked hard to enshrine discrimination in his state’s constitution based on his belief in the sanctity of heterosexual marriage.
5. The governor thought spending taxpayer money to help unemployed SCarolinians was socialism, but that using those funds to travel to see Maria was okay.
The Columbia SUV was pretty clearly a staff plant, after the story “broke”. We’ll hear more about that tomorrow, I bet.
Yeah, that one’s only happening if we are foolish enough to try to have another Constitutional Convention, and banish all of the legislators from it.
Comin’ down off a major fun high for the day……time to crash. Y’all sleep well.
To us it is a shiny object.
To many of his fundy constituents, OTOH, it is a mortal sin — a horrid offense against Jenny, her family, and against God.
Those are the people to whom Jenny was speaking in her statement. Those are the people to whom Mark was speaking in his press conference when he babbled on about “God’s laws.”
He’s hoping to play the “God says you have to forgive me in order to call yourselves a good Christian” card in order to defuse the calls on him to resign. It’s a very twisted vision of forgiveness, mind you, but it’s common to see folks caught in all kinds of nasty behavior try to play it when they get cornered.
And if it works on anyone, it will be the fundies. That’s what Mark is banking on, anyway.
This shit just writes itself. Who’s next? Grams McConnell got a sweet young thing on the side somewhere?
Nighters.
It’d be nice if somebody manages to get all the bits and pieces sorted out into “fact” and “fiction”.
*poof*
The fundies.
I remember reading it!
Been quite a day, eh?
FWDiva
Time for me to leap into my tree, too.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
You got that right.
Night, Waccamaw!
FWDiva
Night, SD
FWDiva
Okay, Peter. If you were Sanford’s spiritual advisor what would you tell him?
Night all you retiring ‘pups.
That was my reaction.
And with the “field” narrowing by the week . . .
She certainly could appeal to the “he done me wrong” crowd on both sides of the aisle.
BTW, where do the big bucks on her [her dad’s] side of the family come from?
LOL. Or, “I told him to go write that slut that it’s over, and for him not to come back until he did.”
She is the granddaughter of the founder of the Skil Corporation. Yeah, as in, SkilSaw, etc.
Thanks.
So another item I have to cross off my Christmas list because of being produced by lunatics?
Already i can’t shop @ Home Depot, eat Domino’s pizza or allow daughter into Anthropologie.
(This is a dangerous question, in that I don’t want to look like Dr. Frist diagnosing Terry Schavio via video. That said . . . )
Right now, his big problem appears to be wanting to be in control but finding one thing after another out of his control — his job, his family, his friendships, etc. That new relationship with his Argentinian friend is something he probably felt more in control of than anything else in his life right now, and depending on what transpired over the last five days, it may not be something he can control now, either.
Can you say “hitting bottom”? Sure you can.
My advice would be to quit trying to be in control of everything. Of course, asking that of most politicians is like asking an alcoholic to just set the glass down. It’s not going to happen, just because someone asks you to do it.
The amount of control we have over others is not a way to measure anything healthy in my book, but that’s what far too many politicians and business leaders fall into.
I’d tell Mark that he needs to re-order his life, that things have to change, and that HE ALREADY KNOWS that what I’m saying is right.
He needs someone who will tell him the absolute truth — probably several someones — and who will stand by him as he grapples with that truth. Not his wife, not his girlfriend, not his political pals, but an honest friend.
I’d also tell him that things are not going to change quickly, or easily. He didn’t get into this mess overnight, and getting out will be just as lengthy, if not longer.
But things WILL change. The only question is whether Mark would like them to be healthy changes or unhealthy ones.
There’s lots more, but that’s where the conversation would start.
A friend who you can count on to be unfailingly honest is something that is truly beyond price. I have a couple of them, and I’m grateful for them and try to do the same for them.
I’m not sure that politicians ever have friends like that.
Peterr, I agree with you, and I apologize for not first observing in writing what I thought in my “inside voice” — your post is spot on, and I had similar (less informed) instincts when I first read Mrs. Sanford’s statement. I was definitely referring to the more logical/rational (vs emotional/spiritual) objections to Sanford’s actions this week.
So both Jenny & Mark are appealing to the fundamentalists’ sympathies? Does he even stand a chance? I mean, forgiveness is divine, but it does have its practical, earthly limits… right?!? (I think the evidence — emails, in particular — make his claims sound less than heart-felt, and true remorse is what’s required here, isn’t it?)
IMHO she did a masterful job of teeing him up as beyond salvation, at least here on earth.
Thanks for illuminating this aspect of the discussion!
She’s the eventual heiress to the Skil power tools fortune.
Does he stand a chance? Sure.
Are the odds good? No. Because to make it work requires supreme honesty — about yourself, what you’ve done, and what has happened to all your relationships as a result. That’s a lot of honesty, and lots of folks would rather not look that hard into a mirror. Easier just to go away, or so they think.
At its heart, forgiveness is not “let’s make everything the way it was before” or some kind of “get out of the doghouse/jail free” card. Forgiveness is something someone does as a way of saying “I’m not going to let what you did to me back then continue to rule and ruin the way I lead my life now.” What that new way of “leading my life” looks like may or may not include Mark Sanford in the picture (whether we’re talking about Jenny’s life or the high political offices of South Carolina).
Here’s the thing most folks don’t get: you don’t earn forgiveness; it is a gift.
Thanks, Peterr.
Personally, I think Jenny, South Carolinians, and the rest of us will be better off without him actively in the picture. That honesty you describe doesn’t, thus far, seem to be there.
Some may ultimately choose to grant him that gift of forgiveness, but that doesn’t automatically include trust.
Peace be with you. :)
Isn’t that the truth? Forgiveness is a gift.
I had to learn that lesson through a divorce. One thing about tough lessons is that you tend not to forget them.
I find it interesting how people differ in their approaches to trusting others. Some trust people until they’ve shown themselves to be untrustworthy. Others don’t trust anyone until they’ve ‘earned’ trust. Most of us fall somewhere between those extremes.
Very useful and wise distinction, BC. Sounds like a lesson you’ve learned the hard way, and a good one to keep in mind.
Maybe I’m a cynic, but could it be that the speech seems a bit well-crafted? My wife would be swinging the cleaver at this point (at least I like to think so). Could it be that the Poor Wronged Woman is telling a list of deep-pocketed fundie donors that there is still one politically connected Sandford that hasn’t left the fold?
Y’know, I think I’m beginning to like Mark Sanford.
The statement reads to me like she was swinging the cleaver two weeks ago when she kicked him out of the house. It also reads like this was something akin to telling him to get his stuff in a pile.
My guess is also that Mrs. Sanford has been working on this statement for a little more than today.
Will she forgive him? Absolutely, every stinking day for the rest of his stinking life. What a nightmare, I doubt this was old Mark’s very first assault on the Grand Tetons beyond his marital bed, because it sure seems like he’s been trying to get caught for a while. Fear and self-loathing in South Carolina.
This hits way too close to home. My sister-in-law’s niece married into Bruce Murch’s family. (He is a biggie in the Full Quiver Mission.)
I can tell you — these nuts are not only totally insane, they are dangerous, too. Most of my friends just think it is funny — they are harmless nuts. But I know better.
I’d like to know more about how the affair started. On an official trade mission to Argentina or at 2 a.m. in one of the naughty nightclubs BA has so many of.
as in smoked ham?
toto? strawman? this may not be deep, but it’s rich in the retelling. Has bantambookaroos picked up his contract yet?