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	<title>Comments on: Obama Condemns Crackdown in Iran, Praises &#8220;Courageous&#8221; Dissenters</title>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/23/obama-condemns-crackdown-in-iran-praises-courageous-dissenters/#comment-1922332</link>
		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who is he?  I think the brand is separating from the man, and am wondering do we have an authoritarian follower as pres.?  Status quo patriarchy in terms of finance and military is who he seems to be following.  Say it ain’t so. I want to believe it ain’t.  But after Gaza and Goldman … now Pakistan and the torture stuff… he can’t be proactive, only reactive.  it is heartbreaking. And then the right wing crazies, yeah, so manipulative and hysterical and crazymaking in their wrong-headed accusations.  Doesn’t excuse what he is and isn’t doing, despite their irrationality.  And the press is so amoral and petty and shallow and amnesia-like, they might as well be commentating on a sports game, not life and blood issues. They are so titillated by hissy-fit right wing, they skew reality in respecting them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is he?  I think the brand is separating from the man, and am wondering do we have an authoritarian follower as pres.?  Status quo patriarchy in terms of finance and military is who he seems to be following.  Say it ain’t so. I want to believe it ain’t.  But after Gaza and Goldman … now Pakistan and the torture stuff… he can’t be proactive, only reactive.  it is heartbreaking. And then the right wing crazies, yeah, so manipulative and hysterical and crazymaking in their wrong-headed accusations.  Doesn’t excuse what he is and isn’t doing, despite their irrationality.  And the press is so amoral and petty and shallow and amnesia-like, they might as well be commentating on a sports game, not life and blood issues. They are so titillated by hissy-fit right wing, they skew reality in respecting them.</p>
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		<title>By: bilejones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bilejones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And where was The Chosen One when the Israeli thugs were murdering 1500 Palestinians?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where was The Chosen One when the Israeli thugs were murdering 1500 Palestinians?</p>
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		<title>By: Waccamaw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/23/obama-condemns-crackdown-in-iran-praises-courageous-dissenters/#comment-1922312</link>
		<dc:creator>Waccamaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chuckie cheeze todd might want to consider the possibility that the POTUS is a wee tad smarter than he…and act accordingly in the future. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Naw…….he’s a villager and they know it all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too bad he’s on msnbc so neither Keef or Rachel will poke any holes in his little bubble tonight but it sure has been fun reading some of the take-downs on him in the lefty blogs this afternoon. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Simple pleasures; gotta get them where ya can.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuckie cheeze todd might want to consider the possibility that the POTUS is a wee tad smarter than he…and act accordingly in the future. </p>
<p>Naw…….he’s a villager and they know it all.</p>
<p>Too bad he’s on msnbc so neither Keef or Rachel will poke any holes in his little bubble tonight but it sure has been fun reading some of the take-downs on him in the lefty blogs this afternoon. :-)</p>
<p>Simple pleasures; gotta get them where ya can.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Allow me. 9-11 conspiracy theorists are lunatics and nut cases.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me. 9-11 conspiracy theorists are lunatics and nut cases.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Translation - allow the Taliban to rule unimpeded once again. It seems to me the Afghans already made their decision - to allow Al Qaeda and their Taliban enablers a “home country” to train, plan and execute terrorist attacks on innocent people in the West that don’t share their revolting religious extremists dogma. Your using Afghanistan and Iraq in the same sentence is an attempt to create some moral equivalency between the two. It does snot exist and clearly reveals what your true agenda is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Translation &#8211; allow the Taliban to rule unimpeded once again. It seems to me the Afghans already made their decision &#8211; to allow Al Qaeda and their Taliban enablers a “home country” to train, plan and execute terrorist attacks on innocent people in the West that don’t share their revolting religious extremists dogma. Your using Afghanistan and Iraq in the same sentence is an attempt to create some moral equivalency between the two. It does snot exist and clearly reveals what your true agenda is.</p>
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		<title>By: bonkers</title>
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		<dc:creator>bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Totally with ya.  I don’t want to brand anyone who starts talking about 9/11 stuff to be considered a nutcase.  Sure, some are just as in any group, but most I’ve ever spoke with can defend their positions pretty well and could be on to something.  If they ever are able to prove something definitive, I’ll be applauding them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plus, any study of history shows that something like a 9/11 conspiracy is very possible, since similar things have been done before.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally with ya.  I don’t want to brand anyone who starts talking about 9/11 stuff to be considered a nutcase.  Sure, some are just as in any group, but most I’ve ever spoke with can defend their positions pretty well and could be on to something.  If they ever are able to prove something definitive, I’ll be applauding them.</p>
<p>Plus, any study of history shows that something like a 9/11 conspiracy is very possible, since similar things have been done before.</p>
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		<title>By: Sufilizard2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sufilizard2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My question is, what’s the point of pursuing the 911 conspiracy. I personally believe there was some level of foreknowledge if not outright involvement by the neo-cons. But I also don’t think we’ll ever get actionable proof.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even if you could ferret out the details what will it accomplish? I already think they’re a bunch of evil douches, my opinion of these folks couldn’t get any lower.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also think this crowd is already guilty of some heinous crimes which can be documented and the hard evidence is already out there in the public domain. But we can’t even get any kind of legal action based on evidence that’s already uncovered and in public, why would I think digging up some sketchier evidence would do any good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not saying the 911 conspiracies are wrong (though they can’t all be right), I’m not even saying I don’t occasionally like to foray into that realm of speculation. I’m just saying we only have so much time and energy in this life and I think we’d be better served focusing it on some more pressing issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But that’s just my take on it. I’m sure others disagree and that’s great. We don’t march in lock-step like some others I could name.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is, what’s the point of pursuing the 911 conspiracy. I personally believe there was some level of foreknowledge if not outright involvement by the neo-cons. But I also don’t think we’ll ever get actionable proof.</p>
<p>Even if you could ferret out the details what will it accomplish? I already think they’re a bunch of evil douches, my opinion of these folks couldn’t get any lower.</p>
<p>I also think this crowd is already guilty of some heinous crimes which can be documented and the hard evidence is already out there in the public domain. But we can’t even get any kind of legal action based on evidence that’s already uncovered and in public, why would I think digging up some sketchier evidence would do any good.</p>
<p>I’m not saying the 911 conspiracies are wrong (though they can’t all be right), I’m not even saying I don’t occasionally like to foray into that realm of speculation. I’m just saying we only have so much time and energy in this life and I think we’d be better served focusing it on some more pressing issues.</p>
<p>But that’s just my take on it. I’m sure others disagree and that’s great. We don’t march in lock-step like some others I could name.</p>
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		<title>By: GregB</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The same people that think Obama is weak and feckless also think he’s a ruthless, steely eyed fascist ready to march them off to workcamps.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-G&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same people that think Obama is weak and feckless also think he’s a ruthless, steely eyed fascist ready to march them off to workcamps.</p>
<p>-G</p>
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		<title>By: ealvarez12</title>
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		<dc:creator>ealvarez12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama has had to play the the safe card given his previous declarations on establishing a better political and diplomatic relationship with Iran. The country, at this point, had given him no other alternative than to condemn the treatment of not only its people, but foreign journalists and correspondents.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Evan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beyondrace.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.beyondrace.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has had to play the the safe card given his previous declarations on establishing a better political and diplomatic relationship with Iran. The country, at this point, had given him no other alternative than to condemn the treatment of not only its people, but foreign journalists and correspondents.</p>
<p>Evan<br /><a href="http://www.beyondrace.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.beyondrace.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sufilizard2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sufilizard2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed. I think that even though Obama is hardly a “revolutionary” it doesn’t mean he can’t stir up some truly revolutionary impulses. A little hope goes a long way and may even have some consequences unintended by the one who initially packaged up and marketed that hope.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Freedom’s funny that way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I think that even though Obama is hardly a “revolutionary” it doesn’t mean he can’t stir up some truly revolutionary impulses. A little hope goes a long way and may even have some consequences unintended by the one who initially packaged up and marketed that hope.</p>
<p>Freedom’s funny that way.</p>
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