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	<title>Comments on: Twitter Wins the Week, But Not the War</title>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921282</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;plus, you forgot, twitted just plain sucks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plus, you forgot, twitted just plain sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: ondelette</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921119</link>
		<dc:creator>ondelette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They’re not in danger of being shot, either.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This isn’t about which side anybody is on, it’s about the safety of people trying to peacefully assemble.  Why is that so hard for people to understand?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They’re not in danger of being shot, either.</p>
<p>This isn’t about which side anybody is on, it’s about the safety of people trying to peacefully assemble.  Why is that so hard for people to understand?</p>
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		<title>By: DrZen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921107</link>
		<dc:creator>DrZen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“But right now it’s working and there is a value in reading the tweets. That’s why they’re being sent.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is true. They are having the impact they are supposed to. Of course, it doesn’t hurt that the people who support Ahmedinajad mostly do not have access to the internet, Twitter accounts or the ability to speak English.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“But right now it’s working and there is a value in reading the tweets. That’s why they’re being sent.”</p>
<p>This is true. They are having the impact they are supposed to. Of course, it doesn’t hurt that the people who support Ahmedinajad mostly do not have access to the internet, Twitter accounts or the ability to speak English.</p>
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		<title>By: DrZen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921106</link>
		<dc:creator>DrZen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama knows that America already is doing something, and it’s in America’s interests, as he sees them, that the protests become bloody. No one in America’s elite is going to mind too much if Ahmedinajad and the clerics retain power with less legitimacy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And what else could he do anyway? Bomb Tehran and kill more people than the Iranian government ever has or ever will?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama knows that America already is doing something, and it’s in America’s interests, as he sees them, that the protests become bloody. No one in America’s elite is going to mind too much if Ahmedinajad and the clerics retain power with less legitimacy.</p>
<p>And what else could he do anyway? Bomb Tehran and kill more people than the Iranian government ever has or ever will?</p>
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		<title>By: ondelette</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921102</link>
		<dc:creator>ondelette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Twitter was used during the Lawyer’s Movement long march (Pakistan) back in march to relay messages about what was happening between the marchers and security forces. It was also used to get the message out (as in out of the country) as it is being used now. Previously, when they were bringing down Musharraf, they used SMS and cells, as well as cell cameras, posted similarly to the video that we are now seeing, to document vote rigging. It’s important to ship the information out of the country in such situations.  GeoTV trained a CCTV camera on the Supreme Court and sent video of the Rangers beating the lawyers out of the country (for which the GeoTV CEO got beaten badly in his office).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;During Tiananmen, they used fax machines for the same purpose, and photographers have used film cannisters in the past. Twitter is being used now because it’s easier to do without getting tracked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree that bearing witness never amounts to the level of action of the people themselves on the streets. But it is why they are sending the images, video, messages, and even tweets out of the country. I don’t prefer Twitter as a medium, for most things it’s inane. But right now it’s working and there is a value in reading the tweets. That’s why they’re being sent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter was used during the Lawyer’s Movement long march (Pakistan) back in march to relay messages about what was happening between the marchers and security forces. It was also used to get the message out (as in out of the country) as it is being used now. Previously, when they were bringing down Musharraf, they used SMS and cells, as well as cell cameras, posted similarly to the video that we are now seeing, to document vote rigging. It’s important to ship the information out of the country in such situations.  GeoTV trained a CCTV camera on the Supreme Court and sent video of the Rangers beating the lawyers out of the country (for which the GeoTV CEO got beaten badly in his office).</p>
<p>During Tiananmen, they used fax machines for the same purpose, and photographers have used film cannisters in the past. Twitter is being used now because it’s easier to do without getting tracked.</p>
<p>I agree that bearing witness never amounts to the level of action of the people themselves on the streets. But it is why they are sending the images, video, messages, and even tweets out of the country. I don’t prefer Twitter as a medium, for most things it’s inane. But right now it’s working and there is a value in reading the tweets. That’s why they’re being sent.</p>
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		<title>By: MillieNeon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921077</link>
		<dc:creator>MillieNeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A great tweet: 140 characters is a novel when yr getting shot at.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with what you say. Still, it seems to make a lot of Iranians feel like their voice is being heard somewhere in the world. And many of them were impressed and happy to see so many people in the world responding to them. Made them feel less alone. That is something, I think.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great tweet: 140 characters is a novel when yr getting shot at.</p>
<p>I agree with what you say. Still, it seems to make a lot of Iranians feel like their voice is being heard somewhere in the world. And many of them were impressed and happy to see so many people in the world responding to them. Made them feel less alone. That is something, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921025</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-frank-schaeffer-crazy-for-god/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Book Salon a couple of flights upstairs&lt;/a&gt; with Frank Schaeffer’s &lt;i&gt;Crazy for God&lt;/i&gt; hosted by Peterr&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-frank-schaeffer-crazy-for-god/" rel="nofollow">Book Salon a couple of flights upstairs</a> with Frank Schaeffer’s <i>Crazy for God</i> hosted by Peterr</p>
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		<title>By: bgrothus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921021</link>
		<dc:creator>bgrothus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if anyone has seen the commentary at Open Anthropology on Twitter and Iran.  Puts a light on Twitter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The title is:  americas-iranian-twitter-revolution&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The linkee thingee never works for me, so you will have to google Open Anthropology to get there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know if anyone has seen the commentary at Open Anthropology on Twitter and Iran.  Puts a light on Twitter.</p>
<p>The title is:  americas-iranian-twitter-revolution</p>
<p>The linkee thingee never works for me, so you will have to google Open Anthropology to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: billybugs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921020</link>
		<dc:creator>billybugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Twitter was just one way for info to get out ,but tweets don’t have the power of an image.&lt;br /&gt;
Youtube and other videos are far more effective&lt;br /&gt;
As far as Obamas statements go I feel he’s been right on key ,he’s obviously given the issue  more thought than some of those morons on the right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter was just one way for info to get out ,but tweets don’t have the power of an image.<br />
Youtube and other videos are far more effective<br />
As far as Obamas statements go I feel he’s been right on key ,he’s obviously given the issue  more thought than some of those morons on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/21/twitter-wins-the-week-but-not-the-war/#comment-1921019</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ROFL&lt;/strong&gt; … once in a while, he gets it right ! &lt;strong&gt;/s&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ROFL</strong> … once in a while, he gets it right ! <strong>/s</strong></p>
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