Comments on: What, Ted Stevens Wasn’t Available for the Job? http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:47:49 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Romberry http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920902 Romberry Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:48:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920902 <blockquote><p>Oh, great. You’re thinking of putting someone from MICROSOFT in charge of CYBERSECURITY? Two words, people: WINDOWS VISTA.</p></blockquote> <p>I’m not sure what you <em>think</em> that means, but I’m quite sure that it doesn’t mean what you think that it does. Not to derail the conversation with utter off-topicness here, but the fact is that Vista is pretty damn secure. Now whether it’s the commercial success MS had hoped for is another story and on that front I think Windows 7 will be what Vista was supposed to be. </p> <p>On cybersecurity, I don’t see how what has turned out to be a pretty dang secure desktop OS (and Vista is that if nothing else) is relevant one way or the other. Cybersecurity is a whole ‘nother ball of wax and the fact is that Microsoft is loaded to the gills with some very smart people who are no doubt up to the task.</p>

Oh, great. You’re thinking of putting someone from MICROSOFT in charge of CYBERSECURITY? Two words, people: WINDOWS VISTA.

I’m not sure what you think that means, but I’m quite sure that it doesn’t mean what you think that it does. Not to derail the conversation with utter off-topicness here, but the fact is that Vista is pretty damn secure. Now whether it’s the commercial success MS had hoped for is another story and on that front I think Windows 7 will be what Vista was supposed to be.

On cybersecurity, I don’t see how what has turned out to be a pretty dang secure desktop OS (and Vista is that if nothing else) is relevant one way or the other. Cybersecurity is a whole ‘nother ball of wax and the fact is that Microsoft is loaded to the gills with some very smart people who are no doubt up to the task.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920744 MarkH Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:08:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920744 <p>It’s hard to say from that list who might be best. Getting somebody from Microsoft might be dangerous because they could work to protect the company’s investments. Getting Landeau fro Sun might be good except for a possible lack of intimate knowledge of Microsoft products.</p> <p>Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.</p> <p>Perhaps better would be someone who is a great administrator and independent, but capable of working with techies. I have no idea who that would be. Davis is a politician. Does he really know *anything* about IT?</p> It’s hard to say from that list who might be best. Getting somebody from Microsoft might be dangerous because they could work to protect the company’s investments. Getting Landeau fro Sun might be good except for a possible lack of intimate knowledge of Microsoft products.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.

Perhaps better would be someone who is a great administrator and independent, but capable of working with techies. I have no idea who that would be. Davis is a politician. Does he really know *anything* about IT?

]]> By: DennisofVeniceBeach http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920656 DennisofVeniceBeach Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:47:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920656 <p>My problem with Davis is he did absolutley nothing as chair of the Government Reform Committee (now Oversight and Government Reform Committee) with one exception, making a spectacle of Terri Schiavo. Great track record for “getting things done”. Not to mention his Abramoff connections.</p> My problem with Davis is he did absolutley nothing as chair of the Government Reform Committee (now Oversight and Government Reform Committee) with one exception, making a spectacle of Terri Schiavo. Great track record for “getting things done”. Not to mention his Abramoff connections.

]]> By: DeanOR http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920635 DeanOR Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:29:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920635 <p>Certainly reminds me of the Bush principle that an administrator doesn’t have to know anything about the field that is being administered as long as he/she is a “team player” politician.</p> Certainly reminds me of the Bush principle that an administrator doesn’t have to know anything about the field that is being administered as long as he/she is a “team player” politician.

]]> By: mack http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920630 mack Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:46:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920630 <p>It would be a good assumption that at least one other entity has access to your emails.</p> It would be a good assumption that at least one other entity has access to your emails.

]]> By: mack http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920629 mack Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:45:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920629 <p>Half agree.<br /> I respect Sherer greatly as a defensive strategist.<br /> I base much of my opinion of the difficulty of attacking Windows on writings by immunitysec’s Dave Aitel, Joanna from invisiblethings, halvar flake, thomas lim and a few others (while we’re name checking/dropping)<br /> Sure the RPC should have been fixed in Vista, but that was the exceptional oversight rather than the rule.<br /> And you can 0wn 1000s of boxes running old versions of sendmail as well.<br /> If you are looking for someone who has come into a strategically compromised organised organization, such as the US Government and make major changes, Microsoft would be a good example of turning a large ship around.<br /> Sure, you can build a better (more secure) OS ground up on a ‘nix kernel today, but you can’t make it functional for the millions of users.<br /> On the network side, I have yet to read of a compromised ISA server, but Checkpoint and ISS appliances have had remote code execution vulnerabilities.<br /> F</p> Half agree.
I respect Sherer greatly as a defensive strategist.
I base much of my opinion of the difficulty of attacking Windows on writings by immunitysec’s Dave Aitel, Joanna from invisiblethings, halvar flake, thomas lim and a few others (while we’re name checking/dropping)
Sure the RPC should have been fixed in Vista, but that was the exceptional oversight rather than the rule.
And you can 0wn 1000s of boxes running old versions of sendmail as well.
If you are looking for someone who has come into a strategically compromised organised organization, such as the US Government and make major changes, Microsoft would be a good example of turning a large ship around.
Sure, you can build a better (more secure) OS ground up on a ‘nix kernel today, but you can’t make it functional for the millions of users.
On the network side, I have yet to read of a compromised ISA server, but Checkpoint and ISS appliances have had remote code execution vulnerabilities.
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]]> By: PJEvans http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920628 PJEvans Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:42:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920628 <p>Well, I suppose ‘no clout’ is not ‘getting too much clout’. I wish we had more, because then would wouldn’t be getting so much crap like this happening.</p> Well, I suppose ‘no clout’ is not ‘getting too much clout’. I wish we had more, because then would wouldn’t be getting so much crap like this happening.

]]> By: STTPinOhio http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920627 STTPinOhio Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:40:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920627 <blockquote><p>What are bloogers? Sad bloggers?</p></blockquote> <p>Stepped away for a moment (mom called me to take out the trash),<br /> but you’ll have to ask <a href="mailto:TP@16" rel="nofollow">TP@16</a>, he started it!</p>

What are bloogers? Sad bloggers?

Stepped away for a moment (mom called me to take out the trash),
but you’ll have to ask TP@16, he started it!

]]> By: nonplussed http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920626 nonplussed Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:22:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920626 <p>It’s in keeping with the policy of preventing Progressives from getting too much clout in the Administration. If you exclude us, there is no chance that the Regressives will accuse him of being “Liberal”, is there?</p> It’s in keeping with the policy of preventing Progressives from getting too much clout in the Administration. If you exclude us, there is no chance that the Regressives will accuse him of being “Liberal”, is there?

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920625 eCAHNomics Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:19:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/20/what-ted-stevens-wasnt-available-for-the-job/#comment-1920625 <p>Heh. Surprised I couldn’t figure that out for myself.</p> Heh. Surprised I couldn’t figure that out for myself.

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