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	<title>Comments on: Torture Architects Mitchell &amp; Jessen in Road to Maui</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kaye</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/18/torture-architects-mitchell-jessen-in-road-to-maui/#comment-1919923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, kgb, for the Crapo link. It’s a great example of how embedded guys like Spivey are in the national security/homeland security/intelligence/special operations world, as I’ve documented elsewhere. That’s one of my main points. Mitchell-Jessen didn’t arise from nowhere, ab ovo torturers. Nor were they simply the creation of Dick Cheney. The torture was the production of the national security state, and its organizers move among us today.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, kgb, for the Crapo link. It’s a great example of how embedded guys like Spivey are in the national security/homeland security/intelligence/special operations world, as I’ve documented elsewhere. That’s one of my main points. Mitchell-Jessen didn’t arise from nowhere, ab ovo torturers. Nor were they simply the creation of Dick Cheney. The torture was the production of the national security state, and its organizers move among us today.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kaye</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/18/torture-architects-mitchell-jessen-in-road-to-maui/#comment-1919922</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;13 &amp; 14 - Mitchell/Jessen are near Ft. Belvoir and also Fairchild AFB/Spokane because those are the headquarters for Joint Personnel Recovery Agency (JPRA) East and West HQ, respectively.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;kgb, you make a convincing case, re this represents their “legit” work, i.e., drumming up fear about hostages, kidnappings, terror for the locals. FSA had a contract, for instance, to train Idaho National Guard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My question is: when will FDL hold a conference in Maui?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>13 &amp; 14 &#8211; Mitchell/Jessen are near Ft. Belvoir and also Fairchild AFB/Spokane because those are the headquarters for Joint Personnel Recovery Agency (JPRA) East and West HQ, respectively.</p>
<p>kgb, you make a convincing case, re this represents their “legit” work, i.e., drumming up fear about hostages, kidnappings, terror for the locals. FSA had a contract, for instance, to train Idaho National Guard.</p>
<p>My question is: when will FDL hold a conference in Maui?</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Could see if you can find Inouye’s voting record for that month; can surely find schedule online of Congressional recesses as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s 12 to 17 hours of travel from DC to Hawaii, depending on connections, across five time zones. Not exactly a piece of cake on an old dog like Inouye, even if he’s been doing it for years. He probably does it less often, but maximizes the amount of time he’s home.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could see if you can find Inouye’s voting record for that month; can surely find schedule online of Congressional recesses as well.</p>
<p>It’s 12 to 17 hours of travel from DC to Hawaii, depending on connections, across five time zones. Not exactly a piece of cake on an old dog like Inouye, even if he’s been doing it for years. He probably does it less often, but maximizes the amount of time he’s home.</p>
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		<title>By: DeadLast</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/18/torture-architects-mitchell-jessen-in-road-to-maui/#comment-1919719</link>
		<dc:creator>DeadLast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spokane and Northern Idaho.  Idaho has the supremacists, and Spokane has Fairchild AFB, which has a big survival school.  Mitchell and Jessen’s business must have been located in Spokane because of military and survival connections.    There has to be some connection between the base and the torture.  Is sere training done there?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spokane and Northern Idaho.  Idaho has the supremacists, and Spokane has Fairchild AFB, which has a big survival school.  Mitchell and Jessen’s business must have been located in Spokane because of military and survival connections.    There has to be some connection between the base and the torture.  Is sere training done there?</p>
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		<title>By: kgb999</title>
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		<dc:creator>kgb999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FSI was a big local issue in CDA. There was a lot of political pressure related to it right around that time. Many people REALLY wanted to keep it going - the official take was that they would be positioned to cash in on DHS grants going to various government agencies for anti-terrorism training. &lt;a href=&quot;http://crapo.senate.gov/media/newsreleases/release_full.cfm?id=233169&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crapo was all up on it&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My guess is this was an elbow-rub networking opportunity where the various companies (RSI, FSI, etc.) could pitch their specialty programs. I think the idea was to sell state government agencies on use of the services to train their workers.  I’ll bet 90% of the trip was presentations describing the course offerings and how they could be applied in state settings. Then they’ll get a mini-course on hostage isolation (maybe with a 4-hour unannounced hostage/isolation situation while the spouses golf/spa).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t doubt Inouye had a hand in helping to arrange it, the idea of a conglomeration of private security-training schools had decent support among gitmo-y types.  My bet is the Maui conference was about drumming up business for the more legitimate contracting businesses run by these guys(If for no other reason than to provide cover for Torture Inc.). Besides, Mitchell Jessen &amp; Assoc. had an office in Ft. Belvoir (basically Fairfax, VA).  If they wanted to have a secret get together with a senator or a member of their staff, it seems far more low key to do it around D.C.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FSI was a big local issue in CDA. There was a lot of political pressure related to it right around that time. Many people REALLY wanted to keep it going &#8211; the official take was that they would be positioned to cash in on DHS grants going to various government agencies for anti-terrorism training. <a href="http://crapo.senate.gov/media/newsreleases/release_full.cfm?id=233169" rel="nofollow">Crapo was all up on it</a>.</p>
<p>My guess is this was an elbow-rub networking opportunity where the various companies (RSI, FSI, etc.) could pitch their specialty programs. I think the idea was to sell state government agencies on use of the services to train their workers.  I’ll bet 90% of the trip was presentations describing the course offerings and how they could be applied in state settings. Then they’ll get a mini-course on hostage isolation (maybe with a 4-hour unannounced hostage/isolation situation while the spouses golf/spa).</p>
<p>I don’t doubt Inouye had a hand in helping to arrange it, the idea of a conglomeration of private security-training schools had decent support among gitmo-y types.  My bet is the Maui conference was about drumming up business for the more legitimate contracting businesses run by these guys(If for no other reason than to provide cover for Torture Inc.). Besides, Mitchell Jessen &amp; Assoc. had an office in Ft. Belvoir (basically Fairfax, VA).  If they wanted to have a secret get together with a senator or a member of their staff, it seems far more low key to do it around D.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kaye</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/18/torture-architects-mitchell-jessen-in-road-to-maui/#comment-1919507</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think you’re right. There must have been more to this confab than a “homeland security” seminar. R&amp;R between torture assignments? A meeting with someone from Inouye’s office re funding and assignments for DoD? Planning for the next contractors’ scam?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wish we could re-create the schedule for Inouye or DeLeon from 03, but probably impossible (w/o subpoena).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, did I mention that Inouye was always a big supporter of Gitmo? Big surprise. The Welch article has more on that topic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you’re right. There must have been more to this confab than a “homeland security” seminar. R&amp;R between torture assignments? A meeting with someone from Inouye’s office re funding and assignments for DoD? Planning for the next contractors’ scam?</p>
<p>I wish we could re-create the schedule for Inouye or DeLeon from 03, but probably impossible (w/o subpoena).</p>
<p>Meanwhile, did I mention that Inouye was always a big supporter of Gitmo? Big surprise. The Welch article has more on that topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This particular location in Maui would weed out all but the most dedicated and hardcore, the ones rolling in dough. Something else went on here besides a conference on techniques.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Having traveled to Hawaii, having family there, and having a spouse who travels regularly to Asia, I’d have to say there were other business reasons for this trip. It’s a write-off, for starters, but it’s conveniently a good place to get one’s body clock reset before or after a trip many time zones apart. It can take as long as ten days to get one’s body clock re-acclimated if a final destination is more than 5 time zones away from point of origin. (Thailand is about four hours west of Int’l date line, Hawaii another three hours east of date line…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And then there’s the Maui bit. The bulk of Inouye’s constituents aren’t on Maui, they’re on Hawaii, has at least three offices on the Big Island. Inouye does have an office on Maui, though — the one on Maui looks like it’s in the middle of BFE. Nice place to have a private meeting without any unanticipated visitors, I imagine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My money is on DeLeon being in the Maui office that week. Convenient.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This particular location in Maui would weed out all but the most dedicated and hardcore, the ones rolling in dough. Something else went on here besides a conference on techniques.</p>
<p>Having traveled to Hawaii, having family there, and having a spouse who travels regularly to Asia, I’d have to say there were other business reasons for this trip. It’s a write-off, for starters, but it’s conveniently a good place to get one’s body clock reset before or after a trip many time zones apart. It can take as long as ten days to get one’s body clock re-acclimated if a final destination is more than 5 time zones away from point of origin. (Thailand is about four hours west of Int’l date line, Hawaii another three hours east of date line…)</p>
<p>And then there’s the Maui bit. The bulk of Inouye’s constituents aren’t on Maui, they’re on Hawaii, has at least three offices on the Big Island. Inouye does have an office on Maui, though — the one on Maui looks like it’s in the middle of BFE. Nice place to have a private meeting without any unanticipated visitors, I imagine.</p>
<p>My money is on DeLeon being in the Maui office that week. Convenient.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thank you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thank you jeff - please keep connecting the dots of this blight upon our democracy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you jeff &#8211; please keep connecting the dots of this blight upon our democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow -this goes into information overload territory.  That explains a lot about Inouye, who never seemed to have that much of a torture loving constituency.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m guessing the Maui location was intended to make the cocktails more, um, poignant?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow -this goes into information overload territory.  That explains a lot about Inouye, who never seemed to have that much of a torture loving constituency.  </p>
<p>I’m guessing the Maui location was intended to make the cocktails more, um, poignant?</p>
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