Comments on: Morning Swim, Don’t Make Them Mad Edition

By: Mary

Mary — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:49:56 +0000

EPU’d, but nice roundup (said by someone with lots of fencelines) Scarecrow and thanks for the Krugman vid.

By: Petro

Petro — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:58:28 +0000

On the other hand, he doesn’t seem to have a problem seriously upsetting folks who actually supported a lot of what he said he’d do, while going out of his way to court a group of bad-faith liars who’ll let the country fail if he fails with it, and whom 3/4 of the country can’t stand. Strange, that.

True, that.

By: arcadesproject

arcadesproject — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:55:02 +0000

Sojourner Truth said, ‘If you hear the dogs, keep going.’ Obama says, ‘If you hear the dogs, invite them over for poker, give them all the meat they want and throw everybody else a bone.’

By: selise

selise — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:54:00 +0000

thanks for the note on meeting cindy. i’m not a believer, but i’ve noted here too that institutionally the organizations who hang in there for peace are associated with the quakers, catholic worker and the like. i love them and admire them all.

By: TomThumb

TomThumb — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:49:41 +0000

Yeah, It’s the same winnowing out of the ranks here in NY. We persevere and try to stay attached to the not-quite pacifists in our groups. My idea for maintaining the group cohesion is to email continuously, editorializing on efforts made for peace, war resistance, diplomacy at every level of society. Carry on!

By: twolf1

twolf1 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:36:05 +0000

Jane’s way upstairs with a new post…

By: Scarecrow

Scarecrow — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:37:59 +0000

His poll numbers with independents are dropping — a result of the constant pounding by Republicans and the media just lying — and I’m afraid the people who surround him will argue he should be more cautious.

I think he needs to be bolder, but to do that, he also has to get mad, just as he did a couple of times in the campaign. Brief flashes, but he did it. When he starts pointing out what a bunch of jerks the Republicans are, and how they got us into this mess and their whole frame sucks and they have no ideas for getting us out, he can make things change. But, to quote him, he has to be that change.

By: cbl2

cbl2 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:30:58 +0000

We hear it over and over, every day. It will take legions of people to defeat those attitudes.

you were spot on above on his incrementalist approach - and yet there are times when he could set it aside, be a little bolder (he has the biggest megaphone afterall) and do some serious ’softening up’ of all you lay out in your 47 above. -

I have it in my head much of this is about the independents (currently the largest voting bloc doncha know) and have checked the polling on this and all too often they synch up - ooh boy, thinking we all need to re register as Independent and continue speaking out

By: i4u2bi

i4u2bi — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:30:02 +0000

Can’t speak for the bankers but surely ‘I am mad as hell’. The prez seems to be just skirting around progressive issues sometimes striking a chord here and there. There is no middle of the road on a democratic one way street paid for by small supporters.

By: selise

selise — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:24:36 +0000

thanks to scarecrow for filling in for bt. like old times to read the crow in the morning!