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Early Morning Swim

By: Blue Texan Tuesday June 16, 2009 4:58 am

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  • Recount?
  • But…but…torture saved millions of lives.
  • Wouldn’t you?
  • No one could’ve predicted…
  • There’s nothing they can say to appease the GOP.
  • Is health care reform doomed?
  • Letterman is losing it.
  • Silvio gets served by a Nobel Prize winner.

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41 Responses to “Early Morning Swim”

ghostof911 June 16th, 2009 at 5:23 am
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Iran recount? Too bad Iran doesn’t have the equivalent of a SCOTUS to settle that issue.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:27 am
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Hope everyone is watching Jane on cspan.

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June 16th, 2009 at 5:27 am
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Thanks, BT.

Heard the interview with Sebelius this morning. Steve Inskeep is an asshole. All he wanted to hear was that we would not have single payer. Ever. Fuck. Him. And all like him.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:28 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 1

I think that already happened. Supreme Leader declared that Akmydinnerjacket’s reelection is a gift from god. Don’t think Scalia can top that. The recount will probably be a sham.

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demi June 16th, 2009 at 5:29 am
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Wow, watching. So, I’m hearing that this is not a conservative v. progressive issue. No one is disagreeing with Jane. Interesting.
And, she sure is doing a swell job.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:31 am
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In response to demi @ 5

Yep.

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MrWhy June 16th, 2009 at 5:32 am
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Letterman could have nipped this story in the bud by admitting he’d made a mistake about which daughter was at the ball game, and apologizing. Instead, he continued to insist that the joke was, perhaps tasteless, but harmless. We can argue whether there should be bounds on taste. There are bounds on acceptability. Joking about child molestation is not acceptable.

After a week of giving the right wing good reason to support Governor Palin & her family, Letterman finally showed some contrition. Thank you, Mr. Letterman.

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msmolly June 16th, 2009 at 5:33 am
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In response to oldnslow @ 3

I wrote to NPR last week about their spin on the health care issue and their omission of any info on single payer. You’ll notice that Sibelius agreed that the public option would be written to exclude any single payer language, per Inskeep’s repeated prompting. I got the usual canned response. Waste of energy. Like the rest of the MSM, NPR decides on its message and slants everything to conform. Bleh.

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SouthernDragon June 16th, 2009 at 5:38 am
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I only caught the last question so I guess I’ll have to wait until it gets put up here later. Jane thinks some will vote against their conscience and vote to fund the wars. I’ll be meeting with St Pete for Peace and Cindy Sheehan tomorrow night. No doubt the supplemental will be the hot topic of discussion. Looks like we’re going to have to ramp up the anti-war folks again.

Hey, MoveOn.org, are we going to have to pay you to be anti-war this time around? If so, fuck you.

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selise June 16th, 2009 at 5:40 am
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file under no one could have predicted:

An analysis released Monday by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office raised the hurdles for draft legislation in the Senate just as its Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee planned to begin voting on Wednesday. The office concluded that a plan by the committee’s Democratic leaders, Senators Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Christopher J. Dodd of Connecticut, would reduce the number of uninsured only by a net 16 million people. Even if the bill became law, the budget office said, 36 million people would remain uninsured in 2017.

That finding came as a surprise. Robert D. Reischauer, an economist who headed the budget office when Congress tackled the health care issue in the Clinton administration, said that if so many people remained uninsured, it might not be feasible to cut special federal payments to hospitals that serve many low-income people.

Mr. Obama said Saturday that the government could save $106 billion over 10 years by cutting such hospital payments as more people gained coverage.

well, except for those silly advocates for single player universal healthcare.

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selise June 16th, 2009 at 5:42 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 9

moveon whipped the progressive caucus in 2007 to vote FOR that year’s war supplemental.

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ghostof911 June 16th, 2009 at 5:43 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 4

Let it not be forgotten that the swing vote that 2000 sham election was Sandra Day O’Connor.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:43 am
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Amy Goodman sez Baucus has had raucous caucus. (Not sure I spelled all those right.)

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beachcolonist June 16th, 2009 at 5:43 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 2

Jane on CSpan? Yes I’m watching Jane on CSpan, and wow it is difficult. The woman cannot possibly be a tv spokesperson, is this real?

Her voice is so gravely it is unlistenable. She looks like a freak who was facially delivered with forceps, what is going on around her mouth? Strange shiny skin, $5 hair color job and bizarre expressions. I am rarely put off by the appearance of an otherwise fairly knowledgeable person, but this woman is impossible to follow without a barf bag. Very Strange indeed.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:44 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 12

My guess is Scalia led the whipping.

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SouthernDragon June 16th, 2009 at 5:45 am
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In response to selise @ 11

Yeah, I know. I lost all respect for MoveOn when they did the email vote on whether to support the anti-war movement or not. Profit over people. Fuck ‘em.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:45 am
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In response to beachcolonist @ 14

Welcome to the lake. Good way to make new friends. /s

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plunger June 16th, 2009 at 5:45 am
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Calling all TRUTHSEEKERS. This documentary provides highly credible, 100% irrefutable evidence of what we’ve all known.

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demi June 16th, 2009 at 5:46 am
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Here’s a big Welcome to any newbies who have peeked in here because of Jane’s appearance on Washington Journal. It’s a great site to stay up to date on many issues and there’s some real nice folks who hang out here from time to time.

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SouthernDragon June 16th, 2009 at 5:47 am
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In response to beachcolonist @ 14

Did your mother have any children that lived?

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:49 am
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In response to demi @ 19

Second the welcome to newbies, and demi’s other comments too.

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demi June 16th, 2009 at 5:50 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 17

Oh, yikes. My comment was written before I read #14. Sir or madam, that’s harsh. It’s probably good we don’t have to publish our photos with our comments. Otherwise, we might all get a real big laugh this morning.

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redfish June 16th, 2009 at 5:51 am
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In response to selise @ 11

Given that moveon is slightly to the left of Karl Marx – well, it shows how extremist the politics are here. I think it’s the self-righteousness that galls me, the actual belief that your position is inherently more moral. And the unwillingness to understand how much harm you do to the good fight Liberal Democrats are engaged in across this country. Somehow, I visualize a giant FD picnic in 2010 where you all get to sit around in some National Forest, applaud yourselves for not supporting Democrats in the election and toast to the new GOP majoritys in the House and Senate. After all — that will be good for fundraising and feeding the beast.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:52 am
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In response to demi @ 22

Freedom of speech, and all that. All are welcome to their opinions. Jane’s not everyone’s cup o tea. But it seems a little immature to jump into a new site with such a negative comment until one sees what else is going on at the site.

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selise June 16th, 2009 at 5:54 am
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In response to demi @ 19

thanks for the reminder, i should watch my manners this morning.

welcome to all. the latest on the war supplemental bill is at the campaign silo link at the top of the page:

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/

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ghostof911 June 16th, 2009 at 5:54 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 15

Still, without a doubt O’Connor will go to her grave remorseful for caving in to him.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:55 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 26

Yes, I believe she’s been public on that.

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WarOnWarOff June 16th, 2009 at 5:56 am
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More about that “gathering” in Russia that Ahmadinejad is attending…

“Yekaterinburg,” Hudson writes, “may become known not only as the death place of the czars but of the American empire as well.” His article is worth reading, along with John Lanchester’s disturbing exposé of the world’s banking system, titled “It’s Finished,” which appeared in the May 28 issue of the London Review of Books.

“This means the end of the dollar,” Hudson told me. “It means China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Iran are forming an official financial and military area to get America out of Eurasia. The balance-of-payments deficit is mainly military in nature. Half of America’s discretionary spending is military. The deficit ends up in the hands of foreign banks, central banks. They don’t have any choice but to recycle the money to buy U.S. government debt. The Asian countries have been financing their own military encirclement. They have been forced to accept dollars that have no chance of being repaid. They are paying for America’s military aggression against them. They want to get rid of this.”

http://www.truthdig.com/report….._bankrupt/

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selise June 16th, 2009 at 5:57 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 16

sad.

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eCAHNomics June 16th, 2009 at 5:59 am
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I’m off. Everything is still soaking, so I’m not sure what outdoor tasks can be done, but we’ll see.

Be well, everyone.

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rxbusa June 16th, 2009 at 6:02 am
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oh “funambulesque” is a terrific word. I can think of lots and lots of uses for it…around here, everywhere!

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selise June 16th, 2009 at 6:02 am
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In response to WarOnWarOff @ 28

thanks for the link. imo that meeting is very big news although getting almost no coverage.

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WarOnWarOff June 16th, 2009 at 6:07 am
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In response to selise @ 32

You’re very welcome, selise. The media seems to be in a state of denial that we’re history.

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WarOnWarOff June 16th, 2009 at 6:08 am
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Death is like that though. ;)

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selise June 16th, 2009 at 6:12 am
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i just got off the phone with keith in in congressman jim mcgovern’s press office.

CQ report is WRONG! congressman mcgovern will be voting AGAINST supplemental.

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SouthernDragon June 16th, 2009 at 6:12 am
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I’ll read the truthdig link later. Thanks for that.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

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redfish June 16th, 2009 at 6:15 am
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In response to WarOnWarOff @ 33

Much to your joy isn’t that right. Who needs video games when you can hate this country.

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alank June 16th, 2009 at 6:18 am
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The audit by the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction and the State Department’s Inspector General said the firm didn’t employ enough guards, medics, marksmen and dog handlers to fully man the teams, which were responsible for protecting the U.S. ambassador to Iraq and other high-level officials.

The failure to consistently field the right numbers of guards endangered the U.S. officials whom the company was being paid to protect, the report concluded.

Yeah, where were the footmen assigned to carry the ambassador around in his sedan chair?

Hey, it was just so worth every penny spent to turn Iraq into a dangerous for Americans.

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rxbusa June 16th, 2009 at 6:24 am
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In response to beachcolonist @ 14

Ooh! See? that new word is useful already! What a funambulesque* comment.

*See 2nd meaning in footnote.

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redfish June 16th, 2009 at 6:36 am
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“When it comes to ideology, 40 percent of Americans described themselves as conservative, 35 percent as moderate and 21 percent as liberal, according to a Gallup analysis of its 2009 polling. The percentage of conservatives has increased by 2 points since last year, while moderates have decreased by two points and liberals fell by 1 point”.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/po…..descr.html

This is what FD does not understand. 75% of Americans describe themselves as Conservative or Moderate while 21% describe themselves as Liberal. This is why Obama’s election was such a triumph and this is why it can all be pulled away as fast as it was given. If that happens, FD and others like it will bear a great deal of the responsibility for helping to fracture the Democrats and weaken President Obama. This supplemental is a great example of that. Shame on you.

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dejadejavu June 16th, 2009 at 9:03 am
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On the Letterman joke, it’s a long way to the next cycle and plenty of time for the younger Palin to continue the family tradition of palling around with fornicators, contraception abstinence and unwed pregnancy.

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