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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Talking Heads: June 14, 2009</title>
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		<title>By: STTPinOhio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917439</link>
		<dc:creator>STTPinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I realize everyone’s long gone now, but I just had to put this somewhere.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0609/39_on_44_10dd2726-593b-4e5b-9830-93cfb019c520.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carter swipes at Clinton&lt;/a&gt;“&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;reads the headline at Politico 44.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But if you bother to read the article, Carter says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“On being compared to Obama: “That’s a compliment for me. One thing we have in common is that I started working on Mideast peace on my first day in office, even before. He has promised me and others during his campaign that he would do that. He has kept that promise. That’s a dramatic difference between the Clinton and the Bush administrations and Obama’s. Because you can’t wait until the last year you’re in office, when you are on your way out, to start working on something as important and difficult as this is.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From my perspective there is no “swipe” there, just the truth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clinton &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; wait to attempt any heavy lifting in the peace process until his administration was just about over.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, whatever his reasons for the timing of his outreach, that is simply a fact.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just another case of beltway media looking to create a pie fight out of every situation they can.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize everyone’s long gone now, but I just had to put this somewhere.</p>
<p>“<a href="http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0609/39_on_44_10dd2726-593b-4e5b-9830-93cfb019c520.html" rel="nofollow">Carter swipes at Clinton</a>“</p>
<p>reads the headline at Politico 44.</p>
<p>But if you bother to read the article, Carter says:</p>
<blockquote><p>“On being compared to Obama: “That’s a compliment for me. One thing we have in common is that I started working on Mideast peace on my first day in office, even before. He has promised me and others during his campaign that he would do that. He has kept that promise. That’s a dramatic difference between the Clinton and the Bush administrations and Obama’s. Because you can’t wait until the last year you’re in office, when you are on your way out, to start working on something as important and difficult as this is.”</p>
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<p>From my perspective there is no “swipe” there, just the truth.</p>
<p>Clinton <em>did</em> wait to attempt any heavy lifting in the peace process until his administration was just about over.</p>
<p>Now, whatever his reasons for the timing of his outreach, that is simply a fact.</p>
<p>Just another case of beltway media looking to create a pie fight out of every situation they can.</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917390</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sarah Robinson’s letter posted on FDL last night needs to be read again and spread around:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/13/memo-to-the-right-wing-put-up-or-shut-up/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://firedoglake.com/2009/06.....r-shut-up/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fantastic letter Ms. Sarah!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah Robinson’s letter posted on FDL last night needs to be read again and spread around:</p>
<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/13/memo-to-the-right-wing-put-up-or-shut-up/" rel="nofollow">http://firedoglake.com/2009/06&#8230;..r-shut-up/</a></p>
<p>Fantastic letter Ms. Sarah!</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917384</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i confess to having had a bit of hope that the dems would not be quite so beholden to the insurance companies (and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRE_economy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FIRE&lt;/a&gt; in general).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;my bad.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i confess to having had a bit of hope that the dems would not be quite so beholden to the insurance companies (and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRE_economy" rel="nofollow">FIRE</a> in general).</p>
<p>my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917381</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Insurance companies?  No, gee, ya think??????&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insurance companies?  No, gee, ya think??????</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think they must be talking to the insurance companies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;btw, if you are interested, wigwam has a very good diary up that explains one of the big reasons why a public option in competition with private insurance is not the same thing as single payer (with private insurance competition you get adverse selection)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5739&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5739&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think they must be talking to the insurance companies.</p>
<p>btw, if you are interested, wigwam has a very good diary up that explains one of the big reasons why a public option in competition with private insurance is not the same thing as single payer (with private insurance competition you get adverse selection)</p>
<p><a href="http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5739" rel="nofollow">http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5739</a></p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917379</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that 60 vote mention really caught my ear, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A friend of mine said (paraphrased)– who are these guys talking to?  Not the people.  Govt run healthcare for the elderly, the poor, the military, the Indians…you know anyone turning down their Medicare?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which got me to thinking, hmmmm, why do the No-Meddling ranters on the right hate the working middle class?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that 60 vote mention really caught my ear, too.</p>
<p>A friend of mine said (paraphrased)– who are these guys talking to?  Not the people.  Govt run healthcare for the elderly, the poor, the military, the Indians…you know anyone turning down their Medicare?</p>
<p>Which got me to thinking, hmmmm, why do the No-Meddling ranters on the right hate the working middle class?</p>
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		<title>By: STTPinOhio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917378</link>
		<dc:creator>STTPinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kristol - now is not the time for meddling with one sixth of the economy (No health care for you!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have never heard the obvious follow up to this nonsensical position asked:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“If &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; were one of the 50 million people who didn’t have health care coverage, would “now is not the time” still apply?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Kristol &#8211; now is not the time for meddling with one sixth of the economy (No health care for you!)</p>
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<p>I have never heard the obvious follow up to this nonsensical position asked:</p>
<p>“If <em>you</em> were one of the 50 million people who didn’t have health care coverage, would “now is not the time” still apply?”</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917377</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kurtz talking Palin this am.  My cue to head out…grabbing one of Marion’s chocolate croissant on the way out.  Yummmmmmmm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, and by the way, Kurtz will talk about the journalists in Iran.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But first….. zappppppppppppp.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Viewing note:  CNN usually replays its early interview/s in the 11 ET hour if you want to hear Sibelius or the Senators.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurtz talking Palin this am.  My cue to head out…grabbing one of Marion’s chocolate croissant on the way out.  Yummmmmmmm.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, Kurtz will talk about the journalists in Iran.</p>
<p>But first….. zappppppppppppp.</p>
<p>Viewing note:  CNN usually replays its early interview/s in the 11 ET hour if you want to hear Sibelius or the Senators.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917376</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for the live blogging and your impressions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m very disappointed to know that conrad is still talking about needing 60 votes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the live blogging and your impressions.</p>
<p>i’m very disappointed to know that conrad is still talking about needing 60 votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/14/sunday-talking-heads-june-14-2009/#comment-1917375</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, yes, Mr. &lt;em&gt;In&lt;/em&gt;-sin-cerity.  He’s like the funeral home director who tries to sell the poor family a $10,000 casket for the cremation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Scum.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, Mr. <em>In</em>-sin-cerity.  He’s like the funeral home director who tries to sell the poor family a $10,000 casket for the cremation.</p>
<p>Scum.</p>
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