I’ve heard that question posed in numerous places, sometimes with anger and disgust and other times with bewilderment. The disgust comes from places like Free Republic and elsewhere on the right wing fringe (see below); the bewilderment often from the left ("Tiller was religious?!?").
Tiller was not a member of my parish, but he was a part of my denomination: the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. I’ve never been to worship at his parish in Wichita, but when I heard of his murder, it changed the way I look at mine.
Barbara Shelly, a KC Star op-ed columnist, put in her two cents about the kind of church Tiller was part of:
What kind of church would embrace George Tiller? A church that believes the creator endowed human beings with both conscience and intelligence, to enable us to wrestle with the complicated questions. A church that recognizes that one’s relationship with that creator can’t be dictated by a central authority, or proscribed by a narrow list of rules.
Tiller’s church, Reformation Lutheran in Wichita, Kan., is one that trusts its members with the freedom to decide on matters of conscience. It holds that a choice made for good reasons and in good faith does not separate a human being from God.
Thanks, Barb — that pretty much says it.
Of course, this set off the folks at Free Republic (and no, I won’t link to them, thank you very much):
The ONLY people claiming that Tiller was shot by Roeder are members of that church. Roeder pled innocent.
Why should we believe people who made America’s most notorious late term abortionist their usher?
Isn’t it more likely they did the shooting themselves and ID’d Roeder as a patsy?
Oh please.
But let’s think about Tiller being an usher.
Ushers help old folks with their walkers and canes out of their cars. They hold open the doors for pregnant mothers or those bearing treats for the fellowship hour after church. They greet visitors with a welcoming smile, and longtime members with a hearty "good to see you again." For people with grief, they offer a comforting shoulder; for people with joy, they offer congratulations. Ushers offer whatever assistance they can to make everyone feel at home. To get theological for a moment, ushers are the first people someone encounters at church, and the message from the usher to the guest is simple: "I may or may not know you, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is that we are both children of God, and so I welcome you here."
When I read the stories from Tiller’s patients (and there are more here), or stories like Christy’s, the notion of Tiller being a church usher makes sense. The bottom line of being an usher is to care about others, whoever they may be and whatever the circumstances of their lives. Tiller cared so much for his patients that he endured years of protests, vandalism, threats of violence, and actual violence. In the end, his compassion cost him his life.
I was away last Sunday, and so tomorrow is the first Sunday I’ll be in my parish since Tiller was murdered. I won’t be looking at my ushers in the same way ever again.
(Sorry if this is a little heavy for a Saturday morning, but it’s been that kind of week.)




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What a beautiful statement, Peterr. Thank you.
Amazing piece for a saturday morning, thank you.
I wish people would stop using superstition to measure everything. For example, I’m an atheist but WHY do I have to be any kind of “theist”? Until we move beyond superstition, persecutions and violence are going to be part of our society and world events. I’m not saying that all wars and violence are rooted in superstition based belief but a huge fraction of it is and ultimately we can’t move forward until we move past defining everything in terms of superstitious belief structures and divisions.
You’re quite welcome.
If we could all just do the things you listed that ushers do, the world surely would improve.
Lovely post to get the day started, Peterr. Thanks
I’d like some way to honor this church, and honor Dr. Tiller. I’m sure there are many churches that would have asked Tiller to leave the church. You can imagine the conversation about how it would be in the best interest of the parish for him to leave. Such bravery stands against the vilification–demonization–of Tiller, a man who in performing third-trimester abortions helped out women whose lives and health were imperiled by pregnancy, or who felt the compromised fetus would have no chance at becoming a person who would have a decent life, or were adolescents dealing with the aftermath of rape. Tiller and this church put everything on the line.
And for the inevitable people who want to flame me for knocking religion: You’ll notice that I didn’t direct my scorn at people who are honestly faithful, nor will I ever. I have the deepest regard for peoples’ beliefs, whether I share them or not. I will, however, continue to argue against using religion as a yardstick with which to measure our fellow man. I mean, not even the traditional media counts the Iraqi dead, primarily because they “don’t really count” as people because they are mostly Muslim. It has to end or we can resign ourselves to never ending violence and war. I also detest and scorn people who use religion as a cudgel with which to deny other people equal citizenship but that’s a comment for a different day. Okay, FLAME ON! :)
I thought your comment was totally respectful. It never occurs to me to wonder about a person’s religion – it just doesn’t matter.
Wow. Far out post, Peterr. Thanks.
Jonathan Miller in his Brief History of Disbelief introduces the idea of post-theism via an interview with Colin McGinn, in NYC:
I’ve often heard it said that churches are for sinners, not just saints.
You say you have the deepest regard for people’s personal beliefs and don’t intent to scorn people who are honestly faithful, but in your first comment you seem to say that anyone who is religious is superstitious, which is preventing the world from moving past violence.
How do you distinguish between those who are superstitious vs those who are honestly faithful?
Really wonderful post.
I’m down with sista Margaret too though. Skygod religion=massive FAIL.
Thanks Peterr.
The fundies don’t believe that. Only they get to talk to the big guy and he talks back to them. The
idea of an actual sinner being in their church would insult them….especially if he’s a Democrat
Thank you Peterr… you described my father who ushered for a long line of churches where they lived. He loved doing it
He had to give up the position when diagnosed with pulmonary fibrosis, not because he could not do it physically but smells bothered him…… regardless of the number of announcements on wearing perfume and cologne, it seems there is one who has to do the 55 gallon sheep dip. Now he sits out in the car during the service and the priest leaves the service to give him communion.
A church is a community, they have a soul and a belief system that matches the parishioners(usually). Ours was the easy breezy Episcopalian.
The idea that one of those parishioners killed one of their own is beyond any stretch of any imagination. That community would allow one of their members to assignate one of their own without anyone saying anything is over the top.
I realize this is addressed to M, but I would just point out superstition is founded on belief the foundation of faith.
Thanks for this lovely post Peterr. It is a tribute to ushers and welcoming church communities everywhere. So many people use religion as a political cudgel, that it is often forgotten that church membership and attendance is really about joining a community of people with a common interest in developing their relationship with God and with each other. Thank you for writing such a lovely reminder.
Margaret, I have to disagree with you. I don’t believe religion and/or superstition causes human violence. I think that violence is part of the human condition, and that people use religious language to justify what they were going to do anyway, and to define what makes them different (and better) than others.
I also think that religion can give people reasons and support to restrain their violent impulses.
And I am speaking as a non-believer.
I think it is important not to assume that all believers (or all Christians) share the worst characteristics of American evangelicalism.
The problem is that the evans are so loud and obnoxious, not to mention supported by the MSM, that they
have become the face of religion in America today. It really is a shame because most Christians are not like that
at all and never will be. It’s the same as the Republican party – taken over by the same group and now considered a bunch of wingnuts. Not all Rs are wingnuts.
I’m more interested in the kind of church that would have Roeder as a member.
Please note theat the E in ELCA stands for Evangelical.
Evangelism is more than blowhard moralism.
Much as many DFHs actually shower.
The closing words at our Sunday services are
“Go in peace. Feed the hungry.”
Both parts are significant.
Peterr, I am certain, could expound at greater length as to the meaning of evangelism.
Could be the same kinda church that opposes torture.
Check out for Thursday’s little lunch outing. ( http://www.flicker.com/photos/nrcat )
Forth row center shows my sign representing those who feel torture is treason.
When I sang in a church choir I always focused on the smiling walking wounded. (The Majority)
I always figure God will judge the walk not the talk, from the inside of the heart.
The same one attended by the folks I met in downtown Chicago passing out literature condemning Tiller the week *after* his murder.
A hateful bunch indeed.
What does evangelism mean? Reading the definition & wiki doesn’t do it for me. Wiki mainly sez it’s an attempt to convert someone to your religion. Is that it? If so, what percent of the congregation actively pursues that purpose?
What religion is it? I didn’t read the articles carefully. (My news gathering is severely curtailed when weather is good enough to be outside. So this time of year, I catch only bits & pieces.)
Sorry for the hit & run. I just came in to load another audiobook disc on my ipod. I’ll check back later to see if anyone answered my Qs, and an in advance thank you if you do.
I have said for many years now when asked about religion….”faith is a gift from God, religion is the tool of the Devil.” Religion is all about power, much like politics. Faith is personal.
Thank you for this moving post, Peterr.
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
The “Evangelical” goes back to Martin Luther, and comes from a greek word meaning “to proclaim good news” (think about the angels at Christmas: “good news . . .”). We in the ELCA are not happy at the connotations that word has developed due to the fundamentalists, but we’re not going to give it up to them either.
She can’t. She’s using the terms synonymously, with intent.
I was raised in the Lutheran Church in America, LCA, one of the predecessors of the ELCA. I was active as an adult, on Church Counsel, lay ministry etc. We sent our daughter to a private christian school for middle school and high school for a variety of reasons having nothing to do with fundamentalist christianity.
She was shocked to find that most of the staff and students at her school did not believe that Lutherans were christians. She went with the crowd and found herself having some very interesting discussions with our wonderful young female associate pastor at our church. A little history of the development of the protestant faiths was an eye opener. What was more interesting was that she discovered that most of the teachers at her school had no idea about the history of their denomination, nor any awareness of the diversity of religious thought existing at the time that their denominations developed.
Religious persecution, common to most of the groups now claiming to have the right to dictate to the rest of us was also completely ignored by most of the members of her faculty. The separation of church and state, critical for the very existence of these groups seems to be forgotten.
Ignored and ignorance, cornerstones of the religious right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDV1jsPlKD8
http://www.salon.com/opinion/w…..lly_walsh/
I saw this H.L. Mencken quote in a sig line & looked it up to make sure Mencken said it. He did.
“We should respect the other fellow’s religion in the same sense that we respect his belief that his wife is beautiful and his children are intelligent.”
Thanks for the post PeterR.
But all this begs the question “How many More Must die in the name of Jesus?”
Jesus certainly would say no lives should be taken in his name.
But We will never learn his message of Peace and humility.
Oh by the way abortion was allowed in the old church
You distinguish faith and superstition by how they manifest in daily action.
I had the same question. I don’t know the answer, but oddly I find myself hoping it is a church that lives by a narrow list of rules because I would not like to think that honest, conscientious intelligence could lead to such a terrible conclusion.
Thank you Peter. I always enjoy your thoughtful perspective.
I have known George for almost thirty years. He was unquestionably a man of great Faith; as caring and compassionate a physician as one could wish for. George’s Faith was manifest in his daily action of caring for the needs of women and their partners–as well as the simple act of being an usher at his church.
One cannot yell “fire” in a crowded theater; how can those who clamored for violence–indirectly or not–be shielded from their responsibility in facilitating his murder.
“the bewilderment often from the left (”Tiller was religious?!?”).”
Some people REALLY need to get out more.