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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Funding the Fund&#8221;&#8230; or Not: Debunking WaPo&#8217;s Pro-Supplemental Editorial</title>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1916005</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The American people do not, never have, and never will accept fringe extremist positions on issues. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this is a hoot because much of political activism has involved attempting to change what ideas are considered fringe and what ideas are considered mainstream.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;see slavery. see women’s rights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p.s. i’m out of here. this conversation is just making my head hurt.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The American people do not, never have, and never will accept fringe extremist positions on issues. </p>
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<p>this is a hoot because much of political activism has involved attempting to change what ideas are considered fringe and what ideas are considered mainstream.</p>
<p>see slavery. see women’s rights.</p>
<p>…..</p>
<p>p.s. i’m out of here. this conversation is just making my head hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1916001</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would hope we don’ get hung up in this discussion on semantics and definition. We have a totally free press in this country - you can write and say what you want to. Whether enough people want to watch or listen to you — that is a different story.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope we don’ get hung up in this discussion on semantics and definition. We have a totally free press in this country &#8211; you can write and say what you want to. Whether enough people want to watch or listen to you — that is a different story.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1915999</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What you don’t realize is that you are as dogmatic as Rush Limbaugh. The American people do not, never have, and never will accept fringe extremist positions on issues. I know you don’t like it but between Berkeley and Greenwich Village there are millions of people with moderate sensible beliefs. Verisimilitude doesn’t embrace only you my friend.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you don’t realize is that you are as dogmatic as Rush Limbaugh. The American people do not, never have, and never will accept fringe extremist positions on issues. I know you don’t like it but between Berkeley and Greenwich Village there are millions of people with moderate sensible beliefs. Verisimilitude doesn’t embrace only you my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1915997</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I do not see any liberal bias. I just think that some media is liberal and some media is not. I know for a fact that reporters and columnists for the NYT write what they want with no management bias. The op-ed page is different.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see any liberal bias. I just think that some media is liberal and some media is not. I know for a fact that reporters and columnists for the NYT write what they want with no management bias. The op-ed page is different.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1915995</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;only if you define traditional media to be the same as corporate media, in which case the term has no meaning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;huffington post is imo a good example of  the corporate non-traditional media.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only if you define traditional media to be the same as corporate media, in which case the term has no meaning.</p>
<p>huffington post is imo a good example of  the corporate non-traditional media.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1915993</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;there is some very fine reporting done within the corporate media and i don’t believe i’ve ever said otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that’s said i’m not much of a fan of the corporate media in general as the incentives are all wrong. as far as i can tell, most of it ends up promoting the goals of some faction of the establishment (but maybe i’m wrong about that?).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is some very fine reporting done within the corporate media and i don’t believe i’ve ever said otherwise.</p>
<p>that’s said i’m not much of a fan of the corporate media in general as the incentives are all wrong. as far as i can tell, most of it ends up promoting the goals of some faction of the establishment (but maybe i’m wrong about that?).</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would disagree.  The overlap between the two is nearly complete.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would disagree.  The overlap between the two is nearly complete.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1915987</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Making money is not a bad thing - neither is corporate media a bad thing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, just look at what a great job the banks have doing making money, and corporate media with its infotainment and propaganda, well right wing concern trolls can’t get enough of that, except when they of course they start hallucinating and see liberal biases among all the pretty patterns and colors.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making money is not a bad thing &#8211; neither is corporate media a bad thing</p>
<p>Yes, just look at what a great job the banks have doing making money, and corporate media with its infotainment and propaganda, well right wing concern trolls can’t get enough of that, except when they of course they start hallucinating and see liberal biases among all the pretty patterns and colors.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1915984</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ask George Soros if you don’t believe me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask George Soros if you don’t believe me.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/funding-the-fund-or-not-debunking-wapos-pro-supplemental-editorial/#comment-1915983</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;the HuffPo is going for a media position but it still really isn’t in the same category as the rest of the traditional media.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the traditional media is not the same thing as the corporate media. corporate media refers to funding source (who pays the bills).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the HuffPo is going for a media position but it still really isn’t in the same category as the rest of the traditional media.</p>
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<p>the traditional media is not the same thing as the corporate media. corporate media refers to funding source (who pays the bills).</p>
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