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	<title>Comments on: Lieberman-Graham Threaten to Shut Down Senate, Add Detainee Photo Suppresion Amendment to FDA Tobacco Regulation Bill</title>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1915392</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phred - calling someone a troll who does not agree with your extremist agenda does not hold water. You can call me what you want - the fact remains that there are millions of Democrats like me who WILL NOT ALLOW EXTREMISTS to derail Obama’s progressive agenda. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Call us trolls - who cares. You only embolden me to be more of an activist. You are every bit as reactionary in your dogma as Dick Cheney is in his. You are filled with hate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phred &#8211; calling someone a troll who does not agree with your extremist agenda does not hold water. You can call me what you want &#8211; the fact remains that there are millions of Democrats like me who WILL NOT ALLOW EXTREMISTS to derail Obama’s progressive agenda. </p>
<p>Call us trolls &#8211; who cares. You only embolden me to be more of an activist. You are every bit as reactionary in your dogma as Dick Cheney is in his. You are filled with hate.</p>
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		<title>By: phred</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1915371</link>
		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Missed you SD, but in the grand scheme, not that much fun was had.  For a troll, this one isn’t very imaginative.  Where have all the good trolls gone?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missed you SD, but in the grand scheme, not that much fun was had.  For a troll, this one isn’t very imaginative.  Where have all the good trolls gone?</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1915027</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ian you are a nobody. So what you think doesn’t matter much to me personally. But I back down to no one in defending my political beliefs . . . boy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am a true liberal and progressive, not a feeble minded fraud like you. I am also very much for freedom of speech and the FOIA. But there are no absolutes are they? You cannot scream fire in a movie theater, that restriction has been deemed not to be a violation of free speech rights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my opinion the same thing applies to the FOIA which is a law with nowhere near the status of freedom of speech. In my opinion you have no right to release photos which will only serve to put soldiers and diplomats lives in danger, to recruit terrorists and further inflame anti-American hatred.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why do you hate America . . . boy?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian you are a nobody. So what you think doesn’t matter much to me personally. But I back down to no one in defending my political beliefs . . . boy. </p>
<p>I am a true liberal and progressive, not a feeble minded fraud like you. I am also very much for freedom of speech and the FOIA. But there are no absolutes are they? You cannot scream fire in a movie theater, that restriction has been deemed not to be a violation of free speech rights.</p>
<p>In my opinion the same thing applies to the FOIA which is a law with nowhere near the status of freedom of speech. In my opinion you have no right to release photos which will only serve to put soldiers and diplomats lives in danger, to recruit terrorists and further inflame anti-American hatred.</p>
<p>Why do you hate America . . . boy?</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fuck, stuck down here in EPUland.  My ISP took a dump around 5 so I’ve missed all the fun.  I swear this is Juno &lt;strike&gt;reincarnated&lt;/strike&gt; regurgitated.  Not anywhere as much fun as Juno, though.  Too wimpy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Trolls, even the cave snakes won’t eat ‘em.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck, stuck down here in EPUland.  My ISP took a dump around 5 so I’ve missed all the fun.  I swear this is Juno <strike>reincarnated</strike> regurgitated.  Not anywhere as much fun as Juno, though.  Too wimpy.</p>
<p>Trolls, even the cave snakes won’t eat ‘em.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Welsh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1914894</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You just said who you are, son.  You’re not for freedom of speech and you’re not for the FOIA.  You’re not a liberal or a progressive, and you don’t believe in transparency or honesty.  That’s fine, but you won’t find many people here who think that torture is something you should move on from.  70% of Americans supported Bush at one point.  Were they right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you have principles, stick to them.  But your arguments indicate that if you have principles, they don’t include free speech or the rule of law or making sure torturers face justice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re also a troll.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just said who you are, son.  You’re not for freedom of speech and you’re not for the FOIA.  You’re not a liberal or a progressive, and you don’t believe in transparency or honesty.  That’s fine, but you won’t find many people here who think that torture is something you should move on from.  70% of Americans supported Bush at one point.  Were they right?</p>
<p>If you have principles, stick to them.  But your arguments indicate that if you have principles, they don’t include free speech or the rule of law or making sure torturers face justice.</p>
<p>You’re also a troll.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1914885</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lisa Derrick is upstairs!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lafiga.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/jon-voight-obama-is-a-false-prophet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jon Voight: Obama is a “False Prophet”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa Derrick is upstairs!<br /><a href="http://lafiga.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/jon-voight-obama-is-a-false-prophet/" rel="nofollow">Jon Voight: Obama is a “False Prophet”</a></p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1914881</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who is whining. Why don’t you answer the question. What do you think?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is whining. Why don’t you answer the question. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1914880</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No I would not want revenge. But your attempt to compare an individual issue with one of global import is without merit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I would not want revenge. But your attempt to compare an individual issue with one of global import is without merit.</p>
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		<title>By: DrZen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1914879</link>
		<dc:creator>DrZen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, the Iraqis are “moving forward”, right? That’s a good thing by your lights, so why are you whining?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Iraqis are “moving forward”, right? That’s a good thing by your lights, so why are you whining?</p>
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		<title>By: DrZen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/liberman-graham-threaten-to-shut-down-senate-add-detaine-photo-suppresion-amendment-to-fda-tobacco-regulation-bill/#comment-1914878</link>
		<dc:creator>DrZen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am loving our new concern troll but I’d like him to consider whether he’d want “revenge” if someone murdered his mother/girlfriend/sister. After all, that’s all it would be to try and punish the person responsible, right? This is all that needs be said about this particular, very weak argument.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am loving our new concern troll but I’d like him to consider whether he’d want “revenge” if someone murdered his mother/girlfriend/sister. After all, that’s all it would be to try and punish the person responsible, right? This is all that needs be said about this particular, very weak argument.</p>
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