http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..-Proposals

see especially part 8)

Dean did an awesome job on Countdown… He completely debunked most of the Gooper’s TP’s… Baucus is a sleazeball that needs to be primaried out…!

Baucus needs to be constantly reminded of the results of the six or so town hall meetings recently held by his staff in his home state, where over 50%, maybe 60% of the attendees were for single payer.

Being a rural state, Montanans tend to have long memories when it comes to non-responsive elected officials.

We know most Dems in congress are spineless, that’s why we need to create so much pressure they have to buckle to us rather than the lobbyists. Otherwise we’ll get faux reform that will then eliminate the chance for real reform for another decade or so.

Best option is national single-payer.

The next best option is a public option, but as many people here fear, the devil is in the details of this. One implemented right, could indeed be a precursor to national single-payer since for-profit companies just wouldn’t be able to compete with it. However, it Republicans and Blue Dogs manage to hamstring the private option so it can’t be implemented to run at it’s ideal efficiency, it will kill the publicly-financed healthcare option for a generation.

I think we have a shot at this one, but only if people rise to the occasion, by “people” I mean “We the People” not those morons up on Capitol Hill.

I have had enough kabuki from the Democrats. They are on the take from private insurers. Moderate Democrats are lining up with Republicans and Blue Dogs to nuke anything that might deviate from private insurance.

The high cost of treating the uninsured is a canard. It is like blaming the poor and minorities for the financial crisis in the banks. The reason the price of a hospital aspirin is so high is because of greed and a lack of regulatory control.

Whenever they frame the need for healthcare reform as due to an economic crisis, your alarms should go off. Health care is a right, not a commodity. When changes are predicated on the false premise of reducing spending, health care takes a second place position relative to how much you spend. That’s how HMOs were created to ration care; it was to save money and to make money by denying care. Denying insurance due to preexisting conditions, denying payments due to high use of medical care, denial of needed tests based upon claims for efficiency, denial of access to real doctors and sidelining patients to nurse practitioners to save money………they reduce insurance companies’ expenses and increase their profits. Your premium keeps going up and your medical care keeps decreasing like the proverbial shrinking candy bar with the big wrapper on it.

It is past time to get free enterprise and for profit businesses out of health care. The only non-profit entity available to tackle this reform is a central government program which can set uniform costs for services and drugs. I want Single Payer health care via HR 676. Only Single Payer can control the price of services and drugs. You should pay 98 dollars for that MRI because that’s what it costs to use the machine and to pay the operator and the interpreter of the MRI. Doctors should decide what it is going to be: Are you here for medicine or to be a millionaire? Hospital administrators making six and seven figure incomes need to decide: Are you here to heal or to be well-heeled??

i’m off….. great day to all!

An Analysis of Leading Congressional Health Care Bills, 2007-2008: Part I, Insurance Coverage

First link at 48 worked for me, if this is the right title