Comments on: Nadler Won’t Vote for the Supplemental: 10 Down, 29 to Go http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:48:18 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: alank http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914062 alank Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:46:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914062 <p>As if this were good news? I mean, what about the war funding? Is this not a (RATHER) bigger problem? The torture enabling happens to be the war funding, after all. The collapse of the financial system goes back to the war funding. Hello???</p> <p>Throughout American history, the largest negative impacts on the economy have been the inflationary policies that invariably attend wars (including the undeclared ones such as the one which is the subject of the continuing resolution or supplemental or whatever benign non descriptive name it might have).</p> <p>The IMF and Lieberman tack-ons are there to insure that the war funding is not the object of controversy during the final vote, I’ll be bound.</p> As if this were good news? I mean, what about the war funding? Is this not a (RATHER) bigger problem? The torture enabling happens to be the war funding, after all. The collapse of the financial system goes back to the war funding. Hello???

Throughout American history, the largest negative impacts on the economy have been the inflationary policies that invariably attend wars (including the undeclared ones such as the one which is the subject of the continuing resolution or supplemental or whatever benign non descriptive name it might have).

The IMF and Lieberman tack-ons are there to insure that the war funding is not the object of controversy during the final vote, I’ll be bound.

]]> By: ThatGuy http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914059 ThatGuy Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:04:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914059 <p>Zoe Lofgren has been called. Staffer would not comment on her position but I made it clear if she votes for the supplemental, she loses my vote.</p> <p>I encourage all pups to lean on Lofgren if you’re her constituent. Both actions (don’t call ‘em wars, no war was declared) need to end now. We cannot solve the problems over there. Use covert means to attack Al Qaeda.</p> Zoe Lofgren has been called. Staffer would not comment on her position but I made it clear if she votes for the supplemental, she loses my vote.

I encourage all pups to lean on Lofgren if you’re her constituent. Both actions (don’t call ‘em wars, no war was declared) need to end now. We cannot solve the problems over there. Use covert means to attack Al Qaeda.

]]> By: AAbshier http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914057 AAbshier Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:01:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914057 <p>(Repost from previous supplemental thread) I just talked to Sarah at Jerry Costello’s (IL-12) D.C. office. She said that Mr. Costello has very strong concerns about the supplemental in its current form, but did not state definitively that he is voting against it (he did vote against it in its original form). I let her know my concerns (I’m a constituent in Alton, IL) and she promised to pass the word.</p> <p>Jerry has reliably voted against supplementals in the past; I am hoping he will announce that he is doing the right thing for sure this time.</p> (Repost from previous supplemental thread) I just talked to Sarah at Jerry Costello’s (IL-12) D.C. office. She said that Mr. Costello has very strong concerns about the supplemental in its current form, but did not state definitively that he is voting against it (he did vote against it in its original form). I let her know my concerns (I’m a constituent in Alton, IL) and she promised to pass the word.

Jerry has reliably voted against supplementals in the past; I am hoping he will announce that he is doing the right thing for sure this time.

]]> By: noonan http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914055 noonan Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:58:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914055 <p>Got a Kagen staffer. She said she couldn’t comment on Steve’s position, but took notes, repeated them back to me, and said he’d get back to me. I’m going to email now just to get a faster response, although he may call me back since I’m in his cellphone - benefits of running for office, I guess. We’ll see.</p> <p>Kagen has always spoken out against “the war” and it’s continued funding when talking to Democrats. He’s also been against the abuse of power under BushCo - if I had another copy of Glenn’s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Defending-American-Values-President/dp/097794400X" rel="nofollow">book</a>, I’d give it to him.</p> Got a Kagen staffer. She said she couldn’t comment on Steve’s position, but took notes, repeated them back to me, and said he’d get back to me. I’m going to email now just to get a faster response, although he may call me back since I’m in his cellphone – benefits of running for office, I guess. We’ll see.

Kagen has always spoken out against “the war” and it’s continued funding when talking to Democrats. He’s also been against the abuse of power under BushCo – if I had another copy of Glenn’s book, I’d give it to him.

]]> By: Clovis http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914040 Clovis Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:43:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914040 <p>Long, long before the snapshots by the Abu Ghraib goons there was prose, witness statements, victim accounts in print. This happened to me, said some. I was there. Harper’s printed them in their <em>Readings</em> section. Nobody read them.</p> <p>Then the photos came out, and everything blew up.</p> <p>Once upon a time it was the seventies, and the Supremes were considering sundering graphics from text in their free speech decisions. Is there any question of suppressing print nowadays? I think it’s always the pictures. </p> <p>A South American dictatorship once was very proud they allowed an absolutely free press. You could say anything in print. In the hinterlands of that nation, literacy was maybe 20%.</p> <p>Because nobody reads no more. It’s like broadcasting your opinion in Navajo. Good only for code.</p> Long, long before the snapshots by the Abu Ghraib goons there was prose, witness statements, victim accounts in print. This happened to me, said some. I was there. Harper’s printed them in their Readings section. Nobody read them.

Then the photos came out, and everything blew up.

Once upon a time it was the seventies, and the Supremes were considering sundering graphics from text in their free speech decisions. Is there any question of suppressing print nowadays? I think it’s always the pictures.

A South American dictatorship once was very proud they allowed an absolutely free press. You could say anything in print. In the hinterlands of that nation, literacy was maybe 20%.

Because nobody reads no more. It’s like broadcasting your opinion in Navajo. Good only for code.

]]> By: flounder http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914039 flounder Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:42:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914039 <p>I called my rep., Bush Dog wannabe Ann Kirkpatrick, and said that the bill was a bailout for European banks, and therefore a waste of my money and an issue for Republicans to hammer her on.</p> I called my rep., Bush Dog wannabe Ann Kirkpatrick, and said that the bill was a bailout for European banks, and therefore a waste of my money and an issue for Republicans to hammer her on.

]]> By: Margot http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914035 Margot Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:37:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914035 <p>Hi from OH-18, where my congressman almost never says how he’ll vote.</p> Hi from OH-18, where my congressman almost never says how he’ll vote.

]]> By: Twain http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914032 Twain Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:28:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914032 <p>LOL<br /> Burris may not be there for too long…..if everyone is smart.</p> LOL
Burris may not be there for too long…..if everyone is smart.

]]> By: BoxTurtle http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914030 BoxTurtle Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:21:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914030 <p>Obama may have been able to keep the dems from throwing Lieberman under the bus, but Lieberman is still about as popular as a dead fish.</p> <p>Boxturtle (But he gives Burris somebody to talk to)</p> Obama may have been able to keep the dems from throwing Lieberman under the bus, but Lieberman is still about as popular as a dead fish.

Boxturtle (But he gives Burris somebody to talk to)

]]> By: ApacheTrout http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914026 ApacheTrout Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:09:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/08/nadler-wont-vote-for-the-supplemental-10-down-28-to-go/#comment-1914026 <p>I called Congressman Peter Welch, but the staff person answering the phone did not know how Welch would vote. Do you have any suggestions for interacting with staff members to determine how their rep is going to vote?</p> I called Congressman Peter Welch, but the staff person answering the phone did not know how Welch would vote. Do you have any suggestions for interacting with staff members to determine how their rep is going to vote?

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