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	<title>Comments on: Congratulations, White House: You&#8217;ve Given the GOP a New Line of Attack Against Sotomayor</title>
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		<title>By: Polymath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polymath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh darn…only three bites bites? (newtonusr, Blue Texan, and msmolly)  But thanks, esp newtonusr for the broader picture(s).  Even Leonard Pitts Jr.’s 6/8 column shivers about the statement (“wince-inducing…”) Leonard is African-American. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The broader context, however does not dilute the essential meaning – that she hopes a Latina woman would reach a better conclusion than [a member of…(plug in any group)] who had not lived the Latina woman’s life.  It’s just a hope.  It might not happen.  It’s a hope that the Latina woman’s life offers some perspective that would produce a better judgments than would the life experience of another group.  If that’s racism, it’s racism light, for sure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s really a way of saying “I hope my life affords me superior capability to make wise decisions than has the life of a white male.”  Me too, because she will on the Court.  And not a white male.  And we can hope she was right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh darn…only three bites bites? (newtonusr, Blue Texan, and msmolly)  But thanks, esp newtonusr for the broader picture(s).  Even Leonard Pitts Jr.’s 6/8 column shivers about the statement (“wince-inducing…”) Leonard is African-American. </p>
<p>The broader context, however does not dilute the essential meaning – that she hopes a Latina woman would reach a better conclusion than [a member of…(plug in any group)] who had not lived the Latina woman’s life.  It’s just a hope.  It might not happen.  It’s a hope that the Latina woman’s life offers some perspective that would produce a better judgments than would the life experience of another group.  If that’s racism, it’s racism light, for sure.</p>
<p>It’s really a way of saying “I hope my life affords me superior capability to make wise decisions than has the life of a white male.”  Me too, because she will on the Court.  And not a white male.  And we can hope she was right.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Texan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They’re obligated to reply because they’re being asked about it. That’s just the reality. And the answer is: it’s a baseless, bad faith attack. You can’t twist that into anything.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They’re obligated to reply because they’re being asked about it. That’s just the reality. And the answer is: it’s a baseless, bad faith attack. You can’t twist that into anything.</p>
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		<title>By: cosperl</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosperl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Obama said nothing about these stupid rw comments about Sotomayor, they would continue to circulate in the media and he would be accused of not defending her.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, he did step up to defend her (and his choice of her as the nominee) by saying (paraphrase) that she might have chosen her words more carefully (to avoid negative sound-bytes taken out of context) but in the grand scheme of her speech/essay, what she said was fine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whatever Obama said, whatever Sotomayor said, in any case would be twisted around to make it something else.  There is no way to “win” if you are a Democrat in this stupid game.  And  it’s discouraging to see so many Dems playing along.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama said nothing about these stupid rw comments about Sotomayor, they would continue to circulate in the media and he would be accused of not defending her.</p>
<p>On the other hand, he did step up to defend her (and his choice of her as the nominee) by saying (paraphrase) that she might have chosen her words more carefully (to avoid negative sound-bytes taken out of context) but in the grand scheme of her speech/essay, what she said was fine.</p>
<p>Whatever Obama said, whatever Sotomayor said, in any case would be twisted around to make it something else.  There is no way to “win” if you are a Democrat in this stupid game.  And  it’s discouraging to see so many Dems playing along.</p>
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		<title>By: parsnip</title>
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		<dc:creator>parsnip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My comment above was in response to Edward Teller @31.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m new here. This is the second time I clicked on ’reply’ to a comment, and failed to have my comment reflect that it was a reply, with one of those grey bands under my name saying ”In reply to Edward Teller @ 31 (show text)”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would anyone care to tell me how to get it right? Also, the preview doesn’t work for me today.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment above was in response to Edward Teller @31.</p>
<p>I’m new here. This is the second time I clicked on ’reply’ to a comment, and failed to have my comment reflect that it was a reply, with one of those grey bands under my name saying ”In reply to Edward Teller @ 31 (show text)”</p>
<p>Would anyone care to tell me how to get it right? Also, the preview doesn’t work for me today.</p>
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		<title>By: parsnip</title>
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		<dc:creator>parsnip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Newt &lt;a href=&quot;http://hamptonroads.com/2009/06/huckabee-gingrich-urge-political-engagement-va-beach&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;was also seen&lt;/a&gt; with Mike Huckabee and Ollie North this weekend at a well-attended event at Rock Church in Virginia, that Bruce Wilson describes as a part of the melding of the religious right and the militia movement. Willson titled his post about the event at Talk To Action: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/6/7/144847/9340&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christian Martyr Movement Leader Blesses Gingrich, Lays Hands on Huckabee&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;On Friday, June 5, 2009, at an event featuring aspiring politicians Mike Huckabee and Newt Gingrich that was broadcast over the global media networks of GodTV,  a rising leader in the rapidly reconfiguring Christian right who has publicly called for acts of Christian martyrdom, prayed over and blessed Huckabee and Gingrich: TheCall founder Lou Engle.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Clearly there is coded language here, referring to the ’martyrdom’ of Scott Roeder.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newt <a href="http://hamptonroads.com/2009/06/huckabee-gingrich-urge-political-engagement-va-beach" rel="nofollow">was also seen</a> with Mike Huckabee and Ollie North this weekend at a well-attended event at Rock Church in Virginia, that Bruce Wilson describes as a part of the melding of the religious right and the militia movement. Willson titled his post about the event at Talk To Action: <a href="http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/6/7/144847/9340" rel="nofollow">Christian Martyr Movement Leader Blesses Gingrich, Lays Hands on Huckabee</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>On Friday, June 5, 2009, at an event featuring aspiring politicians Mike Huckabee and Newt Gingrich that was broadcast over the global media networks of GodTV,  a rising leader in the rapidly reconfiguring Christian right who has publicly called for acts of Christian martyrdom, prayed over and blessed Huckabee and Gingrich: TheCall founder Lou Engle.</p></blockquote>
<p> Clearly there is coded language here, referring to the ’martyrdom’ of Scott Roeder.</p>
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		<title>By: parsnip</title>
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		<dc:creator>parsnip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I still can’t believe Gibbs flubbed this one. Why can’t the Democrats ever learn how to identify the GOP’s fake outrage/controversy campaigns from the outset, and label them for what they are, without falling into the trap? All it takes is to point out to the people that the GOP does ’oppo research’, looking for a phrase they can blow out of all proportion with spin and contrived outrage, out of any meaningful context, for the sole purpose of creating a ’gotcha’ in order to divert the media coverage away from the fact that the Democrats are in the majority, because the voters want it that way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And why is it that the media always faithfully gloms onto the GOP fake outrage meme to the exclusion of real journalism?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can’t believe Gibbs flubbed this one. Why can’t the Democrats ever learn how to identify the GOP’s fake outrage/controversy campaigns from the outset, and label them for what they are, without falling into the trap? All it takes is to point out to the people that the GOP does ’oppo research’, looking for a phrase they can blow out of all proportion with spin and contrived outrage, out of any meaningful context, for the sole purpose of creating a ’gotcha’ in order to divert the media coverage away from the fact that the Democrats are in the majority, because the voters want it that way.</p>
<p>And why is it that the media always faithfully gloms onto the GOP fake outrage meme to the exclusion of real journalism?</p>
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		<title>By: msmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I would hope that a wise white male with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hadn’t lived that life.” WOW!! WOW!! If that sounds racist, then the reverse is, too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The comment, in &lt;em&gt;context&lt;/em&gt;, was about discrimination cases. Even Rachel and KO — and sometimes FDL commenters — leave out the CONTEXT, which is discrimination.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;EDIT: and I agree 200% with newtonusr @ #30 and Twain @ #32&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>“I would hope that a wise white male with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hadn’t lived that life.” WOW!! WOW!! If that sounds racist, then the reverse is, too.</p>
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<p>The comment, in <em>context</em>, was about discrimination cases. Even Rachel and KO — and sometimes FDL commenters — leave out the CONTEXT, which is discrimination.</p>
<p>EDIT: and I agree 200% with newtonusr @ #30 and Twain @ #32</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But Joe Biden proved that plagiarism doesn’t matter!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Joe Biden proved that plagiarism doesn’t matter!</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/07/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-senator-byron-dorgan-reckless-how-debt-deregulation-and-black-money-nearly-bankrupted-america/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Special Book Salon upstairs&lt;/a&gt; with Senator Byron Dorgan’s &lt;i&gt;Reckless!&lt;/i&gt; hosted by Professor William Black&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/07/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-senator-byron-dorgan-reckless-how-debt-deregulation-and-black-money-nearly-bankrupted-america/" rel="nofollow">Special Book Salon upstairs</a> with Senator Byron Dorgan’s <i>Reckless!</i> hosted by Professor William Black</p>
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		<title>By: neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this shit bugs the hell outta me…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i dont think the obama admin “validates the opposition’s frame” — i would quite prefer that they naively offer real and genuine opinions and interpretations of reality. i naively assume that most people weigh things according to reality when they hear it and aren’t led by the nose by horses’ asses who twist and spin…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but of course, in the technological age, everything is propaganda and so we all play the propaganda game, twist and spin, and no one is genuine or authentic. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;liberal, radical or conservative — it’s all perception and frame… or pr, or, perhaps, simplistically, nihilism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if sonia said white men suck because they have, in general, a grandiose assumption of privilege, and newt fuckin’ gringrich sez that’s racist, why isn’t it okay for obama to say sonia could have been clearer about why most white guys are assholes? it makes sense to me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this shit bugs the hell outta me…</p>
<p>i dont think the obama admin “validates the opposition’s frame” — i would quite prefer that they naively offer real and genuine opinions and interpretations of reality. i naively assume that most people weigh things according to reality when they hear it and aren’t led by the nose by horses’ asses who twist and spin…</p>
<p>but of course, in the technological age, everything is propaganda and so we all play the propaganda game, twist and spin, and no one is genuine or authentic. </p>
<p>liberal, radical or conservative — it’s all perception and frame… or pr, or, perhaps, simplistically, nihilism.</p>
<p>if sonia said white men suck because they have, in general, a grandiose assumption of privilege, and newt fuckin’ gringrich sez that’s racist, why isn’t it okay for obama to say sonia could have been clearer about why most white guys are assholes? it makes sense to me.</p>
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