Comments on: Who Picks The Candidates– The Corporately Financed Bosses or Grassroots Primaries?

By: Dameocrat

Dameocrat — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:57:03 +0000

I think easier to start with a new party than try to fix the Democrats. I have become a green. I won’t vote for a lessor evil dem anymore. The 1/4 of them that are still good are different but no dlcers. Even when the pretend to support progressive policies their real beliefs come out in their lack of success at passing them and their betrayals.

By: MiriamKniaz

MiriamKniaz — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:13:54 +0000

Are we raising money for any of these progressives? I’ve still got some change left from the presidential election.

By: katymine

katymine — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:54:12 +0000

Then there are the corporatist in progressive clothing that get voted in…..When Harry Mitchell was in the AZ legislature he was more blue and fought for the citizens….. Old Gov Janet buttonholed him and drug him into the race, you should of seen him, a pouty child for months until someone did an attitude adjustment. Harry just wanted to retire….

Now he is bought and paid for by corporatist….. a high school civics teacher voting against FISA….. but he sure is a lot better than we had with JD Hayworth….. Mr drive time now…

By: sptatt

sptatt — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:29:29 +0000

Stop voting for the party hacks write in the progressive, make as much noise as possible, write the party chairmen and tell them no more corporate hacks. We work hard and get out spent and bent and then hold our nose and vote for shit. Stop it. It has to start at the local level where we can change the laws that give them the party system that they continually screw us with.

By: sporkovat

sporkovat — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:19:43 +0000

look how easy it was for Holy Joe to win as an (I)!

Jesse Ventura did a smackdown on the 2 party oligopoly, and Cindy Sheehan got 16% of the vote against Pelosi, even without any support from the likes of ‘Accountability Now!’.

I’m glad you’ve given it a try personally, but ‘its a marathon, not a sprint’ as they like to say.

my point, my idee fixe is that those interested in values rather than power need to start sprinting and marathoning and crawling and hopping or whatever away from the corrupt and corrupting pigsty of the 2 party duopoly.

once even a few get into Congress somehow, real Progressive congresscritters, if any, can always bolt their party and join, obviating some of the instant runoff and proportionality issues.

after that, they are in like Liebermann (I) Conn!

By: Margaret

Margaret — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:36:49 +0000

Establishment Democrats are much more akin to establishment Republicans than they are to Progressives. Personally, I’ve never been a Democrat and can’t see that ever changing, at least until they quit being Republican lite and there is no evidence of that happening anytime soon.

By: wmd1961

wmd1961 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:27:29 +0000

Absent Instant Runoff Voting or Proportional Representation power will stay in the rigged D/R system.

My personal campaigns for office as an independent were successful in raising discourse on issues. They also taught me something about fundraising and organizing.

By: Howie Klein

Howie Klein — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:26:05 +0000

The major parties are being wiped out in the UK and across Europe this weekend

By: dakine01

dakine01 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:22:22 +0000

I’m pretty sure there have never been all that many progressives in office (especially in the Senate)

But I’m somewhat fascinated by how eagerly the Dem powers are to run away from the so-called liberal base of the party.

I know fear is a powerful motivator in DeeCee, but the so-called liberal base of the Dem Party has never been as monolithic and powerful inside the party, nor as vindictive, as the current base of the Republican Party.

By: wmd1961

wmd1961 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:22:03 +0000

How much luck are we having with Labor in promoting progressive candidates? it seems to me that there is a lot of fundraising potential for Brunner and others to counter the DLC shills there.