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	<title>Comments on: Early Morning Swim: Special Rachel Analyzes Obama&#8217;s Speech Edition</title>
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		<title>By: DICKERSON3870</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/05/early-morning-swim-special-rachel-analyzes-obamas-speech-edition/#comment-1912715</link>
		<dc:creator>DICKERSON3870</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RE: “Didn’t there use to be a tradition that American elected officials refrained from criticizing the President when he was representing the nation abroad?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MY COMMENT: Apparently, that only applies to Democrats!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: “Didn’t there use to be a tradition that American elected officials refrained from criticizing the President when he was representing the nation abroad?”</p>
<p>MY COMMENT: Apparently, that only applies to Democrats!</p>
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		<title>By: MidnightWalker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/05/early-morning-swim-special-rachel-analyzes-obamas-speech-edition/#comment-1912493</link>
		<dc:creator>MidnightWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s what I’ve learned over the years in threads: &lt;i&gt;usually&lt;/i&gt; those who &lt;i&gt;accuse&lt;/i&gt; others of hijacking threads, are the ones with the agenda!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s what I’ve learned over the years in threads: <i>usually</i> those who <i>accuse</i> others of hijacking threads, are the ones with the agenda!</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/05/early-morning-swim-special-rachel-analyzes-obamas-speech-edition/#comment-1912486</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/05/early-morning-swim-special-rachel-analyzes-obamas-speech-edition/#comment-1912483</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maxblumenthal.com/2009/06/feeling-the-hate-in-jerusalem-on-the-eve-of-obamas-speech-in-cairo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is what Obama is up against.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If a false flag attack comes, designed to cause Obama to change his strategy and back off his demands for a two state solution, it will be Americans just like these in a location exactly like this who will be the targets.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Google “false flag” and learn who the masters of the tactic are.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://maxblumenthal.com/2009/06/feeling-the-hate-in-jerusalem-on-the-eve-of-obamas-speech-in-cairo/" rel="nofollow">This is what Obama is up against.</a></p>
<p>If a false flag attack comes, designed to cause Obama to change his strategy and back off his demands for a two state solution, it will be Americans just like these in a location exactly like this who will be the targets.</p>
<p>Google “false flag” and learn who the masters of the tactic are.</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/05/early-morning-swim-special-rachel-analyzes-obamas-speech-edition/#comment-1912482</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Point Number Five in the video that is the topic of this thread says “Dismisses 9/11 Conspiracies.”  It is therefore a topic of this thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My two of the 28 postings above do not qualify as “hijacking a thread.”  They are in fact, precisely on topic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your Swiftboating of me is a personal attack, a violation of the rules - and your intention appears to be to dissuade others from daring to discuss the truth of 9/11.  Your accusations are false.  Whose agenda do you serve?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point Number Five in the video that is the topic of this thread says “Dismisses 9/11 Conspiracies.”  It is therefore a topic of this thread.</p>
<p>My two of the 28 postings above do not qualify as “hijacking a thread.”  They are in fact, precisely on topic.</p>
<p>Your Swiftboating of me is a personal attack, a violation of the rules &#8211; and your intention appears to be to dissuade others from daring to discuss the truth of 9/11.  Your accusations are false.  Whose agenda do you serve?</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks BT, Maddow’s review of Obama’s speech is must see teevee.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BT, Maddow’s review of Obama’s speech is must see teevee.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;snark&lt;br /&gt;
plunger, ghost, I buy everything you guys write. I also love it when you try and hijack threads. Please do more of it. Whatever you do, don’t post at Oxdown where people are free to ignore you. Also, please keep insulting the highly paid moderators. I like that too. I’m sorry, I have to go, Tony Robbins is on.&lt;br /&gt;
/snark&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much have you two &lt;strike&gt;bozos&lt;/strike&gt; kicked into Marcy’s fund?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Deepest apologies to Bozo the clown.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much do you send to FDL each month?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>snark<br />
plunger, ghost, I buy everything you guys write. I also love it when you try and hijack threads. Please do more of it. Whatever you do, don’t post at Oxdown where people are free to ignore you. Also, please keep insulting the highly paid moderators. I like that too. I’m sorry, I have to go, Tony Robbins is on.<br />
/snark</p>
<p>How much have you two <strike>bozos</strike> kicked into Marcy’s fund?</p>
<p>Deepest apologies to Bozo the clown.</p>
<p>How much do you send to FDL each month?</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT, but I liked it:   Our paper had interesting piece about lawsuit against SMU over the sale of the land for Boy King Ly’bry.   Reporting Lil W will likely have to testify and that the efforts by his rich friends go as far back as his Guv years.   O for Molly Ivins both to fill in and comment.  They sort of portray the plaintiff, an attorney, as a litigous kook, but who knows.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but I liked it:   Our paper had interesting piece about lawsuit against SMU over the sale of the land for Boy King Ly’bry.   Reporting Lil W will likely have to testify and that the efforts by his rich friends go as far back as his Guv years.   O for Molly Ivins both to fill in and comment.  They sort of portray the plaintiff, an attorney, as a litigous kook, but who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/05/early-morning-swim-special-rachel-analyzes-obamas-speech-edition/#comment-1912477</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody who has ever bothered to try to learn anything about Iran knows this and has known it for years.  Of course, that lets out all the babbling classes and the media…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who has ever bothered to try to learn anything about Iran knows this and has known it for years.  Of course, that lets out all the babbling classes and the media…</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/05/early-morning-swim-special-rachel-analyzes-obamas-speech-edition/#comment-1912476</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is nothing “progressive” about censorship and swiftboating and the promotion of myths.  The facts speak for themselves, if people &lt;a href=&quot;http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seek the truth&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I spent two days living among most of the (NYPD and NYFD) widows and orphans of 9/11.  I witnessed Rudy lie directly to all of their faces.  It’s personal for me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
“Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Michael Rivero&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing “progressive” about censorship and swiftboating and the promotion of myths.  The facts speak for themselves, if people <a href="http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">seek the truth</a>.</p>
<p>I spent two days living among most of the (NYPD and NYFD) widows and orphans of 9/11.  I witnessed Rudy lie directly to all of their faces.  It’s personal for me.</p>
<blockquote><p>
“Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”</p>
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<p>Michael Rivero</p>
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