On Tuesday, the Senate Armed Services Committee will hold a hearing on the confirmation of Lt. General Stanley McChrystal to take over command of Afghanistan – but as Spencer has reported, the hearings are being stage managed to generate a swift confirmation by combining it with the hearings for two others.
While the media focuses on McChrystal’s involvement with the Tillman case (in which he was cleared of wrongdoing), there are other questions that need to be answered.
All too conveniently, the recent decision by President Obama to block the publication of the torture photos may also be a way to smooth his appointment.
At the least, an uproar caused by the release of those photos would likely lead the Senators to ask some pointed questions about actions under McChrystal’s earlier command – at most, those very photos might contain direct documentation of the abuses uncovered by Human Rights Watch and others at Camp Nama, the detention center he commanded in Iraq.
But even without that photographic evidence, there are serious grounds to question this appointment.
The discussions of the use of torture – and that torture goes way beyond waterboarding – have focused on the culpability of Bush, Cheney, Yoo, Rumsfeld, et al. Yet, there is another group who are open to prosecution for these actions – and they are right now sitting in the highest positions of command of our military forces.
According to both US and international law, commanding officers face legal war crimes charges if they "order, induce, instigate, aid, or abet in the commission of a crime" as well as being “criminally liable not for their actions, but rather for the crimes of those under their command.” Our current military leadership have all held command in Iraq and Afghanistan during the period of time when torture and detainee abuse occurred. If Petraeus, Odierno and the proposed new commander of the Afghanistan theater, McChrystal, amongst others, covered up crimes such as rape and torture under their command, their actions too should be investigated and prosecuted under the well recognized doctrine of command responsibility.
One of those commanders was identified as the prime lobbyist asking Obama to block the release of the photos which may provide evidence of those very crimes:
For weeks, Army Gen. Ray Odierno had passionately pressed his point with Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates: President Obama’s plan to release photographs depicting the alleged abuse of Iraqi prisoners would be a costly mistake.
Last week, when Odierno was in Washington for a meeting with the president, the top U.S. commander in Iraq was pleased and grateful when Obama revealed that he had changed his mind and would oppose release of the photos.
Let’s remember that Ray Odierno, before he became a COIN convert, was the commander of the 4th Infantry that, as Tom Ricks reported in 2006:
was known for "grabbing whole villages, because combat soldiers [were] unable to figure out who was of value and who was not," according to a subsequent investigation of the 4th Infantry Division’s detainee operations by the Army inspector general’s office. Its indiscriminate detention of Iraqis filled Abu Ghraib prison, swamped the U.S. interrogation system and overwhelmed the U.S. soldiers guarding the prison.
Ricks also reported that “In language unusual for an officially produced document, the history of the operation produced by the Marines 1st Division is disapproving, even contemptuous, of what it calls the 4th Infantry Division’s "very aggressive" posture as the unit came into Iraq.”
The 4th Infantry under Odierno also was involved in a number of murders of Iraqi citizens which Odierno helped to sweep under the rug as described by Ricks — and there are numerous reports that detainees faced frequent beatings on their way to Abu Ghraib.
Odierno is not, however, the only one of the Petraeus Generals with a possible personal interest in quashing calls for investigations and prosecutions – or hoping the photos do not come out any time soon. After all, the confirmation of Lt. General Stanley McChrystal might be very difficult if serious questions were raised about his command of the forces at Camp Nama in Iraq.
NAMA (aka "Nasty Ass Military Area") was a secretive detention facility run by “elite American Special Operations forces. The main purpose of the camp was to interrogate prisoners for information about Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. . . . [T]he elite unit, known as Task Force 6-26, used the facility to torture and abuse prisoners both before and after the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal."
It was so secretive that a military witness told a Human Rights Watch investigator:
the colonel told them that he "had this directly from General McChrystal and the Pentagon that there’s no way that the Red Cross could get in…they just don’t have access, and they won’t have access, and they never will. This facility was completely closed off to anybody investigating. Even Army investigators."
Secretive or not, an Esquire article, noted by Andrew Sullivan who has been doing intensive reporting on McChrystal’s record, reports that McChrystal visited the facility and at least one witness said that orders on how to treat the detainees came from “a two-star general. I believe his name was General McChrystal. I saw him there a couple of times."
A groundbreaking New York Times report from March 2006 provides a disturbing account of that treatment of detainees at NAMA:
Placards posted by soldiers at the detention area advised, ”NO BLOOD, NO FOUL.” The slogan, as one Defense Department official explained, reflected an adage adopted by Task Force 6-26: ”If you don’t make them bleed, they can’t prosecute for it.” According to Pentagon specialists who worked with the unit, prisoners at Camp Nama often disappeared into a detention black hole, barred from access to lawyers or relatives, and confined for weeks without charges. ”The reality is, there were no rules there,” another Pentagon official said.
For all the secrecy, the abuse at Nama was well known amongst intel and military leadership. As John Richardson reported in Esquire:
Formed in the summer of 2003, it quickly became notorious. By August the CIA had already ordered its officers to avoid Camp Nama. Then two Iraqi men died following encounters with Navy Seals from Task Force 121 — one at Abu Ghraib and one in Mosul — and an official investigation by a retired Army colonel named Stuart Herrington, first reported in The Washington Post, found evidence of widespread beatings. "Everyone knows about it," one Task Force officer told Herrington. Six months later, two FBI agents raised concerns about suspicious burn marks and other signs of harsh treatment. Then the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency reported that his men had seen evidence of prisoners with burn marks and bruises and once saw a Task Force member "punch [the] prisoner in the face to the point the individual needed medical attention."
The NYT report picks up the DIA story:
. . . in written responses to questions, General Ennis said he never heard about the numerous complaints made by D.I.A. personnel until he and his boss, Vice Adm. Lowell E. Jacoby, then the agency’s director, were briefed on June 24, 2004.
The next day, Admiral Jacoby wrote a two-page memo to Mr. Cambone, under secretary of defense for intelligence. In it, he described a series of complaints, including a May 2004 incident in which a D.I.A. interrogator said he witnessed task force soldiers punch a detainee hard enough to require medical help. The D.I.A. officer took photos of the injuries, but a supervisor confiscated them, the memo said. . . .
Within days after Admiral Jacoby sent his memo, the D.I.A. took the extraordinary step of temporarily withdrawing its personnel from Camp Nama.
Admiral Jacoby’s memo also provoked an angry reaction from Mr. Cambone. ”Get to the bottom of this immediately. This is not acceptable,” Mr. Cambone said in a handwritten note on June 26, 2004, to his top deputy, Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin. ”In particular, I want to know if this is part of a pattern of behavior by TF 6-26.”
General Boykin said through a spokesman on March 17 [2006]that at the time he told Mr. Cambone he had found no pattern of misconduct with the task force.
I don’t know if those NAMA photos still exist or if they are on the ACLU’s radar but none of this is new information – these reports have been available since at least 2006 – yet these Generals have been promoted and given charge of Obama’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now they are pressuring the president to assist in a further cover-up of actions under their command – and so far, he is going along.
This week, we’ll see if the Senate Armed Services Committee goes along as well.
Update: The New York Times has questions as well for McChrystal.
Related posts:
- McChrystal: Detainee Abuse Initially Informed by Rumsfeld Memo
- McChrystal Acknowledges Growth of Insurgency; Seems Tragically Ignorant of Why
- Two Generals Who Enabled Torture Skirt Accountability
- McChrystal Reported “Fuming” over Eikenberry’s Afghanistan Warnings
- FDL Book Salon Welcomes Dr. Steven Miles, Oath Betrayed: America’s Torture Doctors





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Thank you Siun. And Spencer as well and all the others who are bringing these stories to light. Even the NY Times.
Bravo for this excellent piece on the culpability of high officers in the military. The SASC makes clear that SERE-style torture was vetted at the highest levels (Joint Chiefs of Staff). Ex-chairman of the JCS, Richard Myers spiked a review of these techniques in late 2002.
I noted this in an article not too long ago:
The predominance of the Iraq commanders, many likely guilty of condoning war crimes (or otherwise intricately involved), in the Obama Pentagon is clear evidence that the trouble this country endured under Bush-Cheney is far from over.
Thanks so much for highlighting this essential issue.
It’s good to see the NYT raise it – they did an amazing job on the 2006 reporting and its sad it did not get a stronger reaction.
Thanks Jeff – and thanks for your reporting!
And it wasn’t those McChrystal tactics that ended up leading to al-Zarqawi, was it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02242.html
This seems like a good place to repeat my call for a hold on McChrystal until Dawn Johnsen is confirmed.
If they get their jerk in charge of lawbreaking, at least give us our person who wants to put the Constitution back together.
Good point Jim!
The question is not, why is McChrystal being put up for the Afghanistan command?
It’s, why is Obama putting him up for the Afghanistan command?
The proper responsibility to be given to McChrystal is keeping spotless a cell in Leavenworth.
Thanks Siun. Here is something sobering by James Petras:
Right now moderator on Air America is popping off about criticism at Obama for his date night in New York City. So, let’s not talk about Obama and McChrystal. Let’s take the “date night” ISSUE? and defend Obama on those grounds. Oy vey. So progressive radio sipping some kool-aid? Fighting the easy and lazy fights. Letting the core issues go undiscussed?
Great comment.
The general unwillingness to look at the culpability of the military commanders involved is very striking to me – and is something I think we need to keep raising.
What is the expression they use about McCrystal’s M.O. “Propaganda of the dead?” Not a “hearts and minds” coaxing kind of guy.
Art and Siun — It seems the “soft left” is protecting Obama from the “hard left” who want to discuss reality. Surreal reality. I am wearing a black armband and am ready to pop off at a moment’s notice the moral quagmire, the killing war machine we represent (no one mentions it…. oy vey). $800 billion budget for military, certainly not going for humanitarian diplomacy. I will start calling Senators. maybe we need a list of the armed services committee members to aim at. Will google and get back in a while. Thanks for this.
Scott Peck in his book “People of the Lie” says that EVIL is “laziness” to the nth degree. The banality of evil. And yet what a slippery slope as you say to horrors. Too lazy to exercise human values. And I think we all have to fight the “moral laziness” challenge.
I have been thinking of how many decades of desensitization of people in trouble, like coexisting in America with the growing ranks of the homeless. Remember Nancy Reagan told Mike Wallace, we didn’t need governmental care-taking because people automatically took care of their neighbors, say, when their neighbor’s house caught fire.
So, now, we don’t even have to pass those in the street being killed and called “collateral damage” not even a label appropriate for a human being.
The “fresh hells” coming at us are fast and furiously and nauseatingly. I have been mourning that young female soldier who committed suicide when asked to torture. Then it was strongly suggested she may have been assassinated as a dangerous whistleblower.
It is like Invasion of the Body Snatchers, the denial or minimization of the majority of our countrymen and women.
Thanks.
I meant to also mention that it was Task Force 121, also known as TF 6-26, and apparently even other names, at Camp Nama is the SMU-TF mentioned in the SASC report. This is where Col. Kleinman of JPRA went with two other officers to help out with interrogations. (Using SERE instructors in interrogations at been cleared by Joint Forces Command.) Famously, now, Kleinman refused to participate in the torture, and told the others to stand down. He felt his life was threatened, and ultimately he left and filed a report. A few years later, he would testify about his experiences before Levin’s committee.
Can one even imagine the barbarities undertaken at Camp Nama? Imagine, even CIA and DIA didn’t want to be there. And this place was McChrystal’s baby, and now he is running the Afghan show. I shudder to think what horrors will be placed upon Afghan civilians, should they come into U.S. hands.
The CIA takes the heat, and deservedly so, but it is crime that the Pentagon should not only get off scot-free, but that the perpetrators of grave crimes should be promoted is the clearest indication yet that the bitter irony of Obama’s claim to bring “change” is now, when it comes to U.S. military policy and conduct, upon us, and weighs us down with its implications.
Progressives should demand No Confirmation for McChrystal!
“We need Guantanamo… If we didn’t have it, we’d need to (invent) it,” Cheney remarked. “If you don’t have a place to hold these people, the only other option is to kill them.”
Richard B. Cheney
War Criminal
Cheney appeared on Larry King. He stepped in it big time, but few people caught it. I alerted Rude Pundit and he wrote about it.
an excerpt:
Then Cheney made this statement: “In a sense, when you’re at war, you keep prisoners of war until the war is over with.” So, like, if, in a sense, the Gitmo campers are “prisoners of war,” then, in a sense, don’t they get Geneva Conventions protections?
Cheney and Gonzales played a semantics game to justify torture, since “war” was never formally declared. It’s pretty obvious why they chose to embark upon the path of war without ever formally declaring it (as did FDR in the immediate aftermath of the original Pearl Harbor attack) – so they could not be held accountable for the War Crimes they knew they’d be committing. That also serves to explain why they de-uniformed all of the soldiers in Iraq. The term “uniformed detainees” is part of the language under the protections provided by the Geneva Conventions.
Bush told us every day that we were at war. Cheney and Gonzales told us that we’re not REALLY at war where the Geneva Conventions are concerned.
Problem is, Cheney is on tape stating not only that we are at war, but that we are holding “prisoners of war.”
The Geneva Conventions DO APPLY, and Cheney is guilty of war Crimes.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..kl.01.html
So this is the war without end, and these prisoners will be held forever – without trial – because they are guilty – because Cheney said so, and the only other option is to kill them?
To be fair, Obama seems to have a general “unwillingness to look at the culpability” of just about anyone involved in this — not the military folks in uniform or civilian DOD career people out of uniform; not the political appointees at DOD, CIA, and elsewhere; not the contractors . . .
Jeff … precisely – and thank you for that info and link!
Let’s call Senate Armed Services Committee to Protest General McChrystal. (Toll Free Numbers: 800-833-6354, 866-220-0044):
DEMOCRATS
Carl Levin (Michigan)
Chairman
Edward M. Kennedy (Massachusetts)
Robert C. Byrd (West Virginia)
Joseph I. Lieberman (Connecticut)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
Daniel K. Akaka (Hawaii)
Bill Nelson (Florida)
Ben Nelson (Nebraska)
Evan Bayh (Indiana)
Jim Webb (Virginia)
Claire McCaskill (Missouri)
Mark Udall (Colorado)
Kay R. Hagan (North Carolina)
Mark Begich (Alaska)
Roland W. Burris (Illinois)
REPUBLICANS
John McCain (Arizona)
Ranking Member
James M. Inhofe (Oklahoma)
Jeff Sessions (Alabama)
Saxby Chambliss (Georgia)
Lindsey Graham (South Carolina)
John Thune (South Dakota)
Mel Martinez (Florida)
Roger F. Wicker (Mississippi)
Richard Burr (North Carolina)
David Vitter (Louisiana)
Susan M. Collins (Maine)
I’m sorry that I have to miss the SASC hearing tomorrow. I hope that someone reminds the senators (if they care, which is probably unlikely) that McChrystal is nominated to take over command not only of U.S. forces in Afghanistan but also of the entire NATO ISAF mission, which means he will be commanding forces from other nations that are already feeling uncertain about the mission.
Canadians, for instance, haven’t heard a lot about McChrystal yet, but the stories about JSOC and Camp Nama are not going to go down well once people get a handle on the guy’s history.
Agreed Peterr … but with all the attention on CIA and also on the political folks, we too often forget the commanders and they are still in the same jobs.
Thanks for the post Siun; excellent comments, too.
So well said and will say that about Dawn Johnson when I call senators. TY!
Not having Johnsen confirmed yet is working out pretty well for Obama. He has all the kudos for nominating her, but she’s not in there making any kinds of noises about he and Holder giving extra-Constitutional byes on investigations and proseuctions to torturers; she’s not in there on all the state’s secrets cases where Obama has gone Bush one better; she’s not in ther on the illegal surveillance cases; she’s not in there to weigh in on the forever detentions without trials plans or the revived military commissions.
Working out real well for Obama not having to worry about her actually being in office and doing anything, but still getting the grace notes for tossing her name out there.
Thanks for this important info Siun
Trying to make it thru your links
Here’s another by Stan Goff
Here is the link to the April, 2009 Charlie Rose interview with Gen. Richard Myers. Myers’ statement as to the Abu Ghraib atrocities begins at 11:39 on the tape. “…a few bad folks doing bad things, poorly supervised”. Charlie sorta presses on the possibility of some higher up the chain of command being responsible….
I don’t trust this sorry bunch. For all the reasons you mention, the newest Obama may have already picked Dawn Johnson’s replacement (after making a deal with his buddies Graham and Lieberman that the next selection will be confirmed without delay). Where’s Obama’s strong speeches in support of Johnson? Maybe I missed it but I haven’t heard a word out of him.
It’s been too long, giving the repubs more time to franticly dig for something on Johnson that will stick. The racist, anti-male thing didn’t stick so well. A real return to the rule of law would leave DC practically a ghost town and the far-flung military missing many commanders…. Their grasping fists are all bloody.
He admitted in the interview that the decision was made by others to pursue “extraordinary” measures (beyond the Army Field Manual).
Dave Zirin is the author of “A People’s History of Sports in the United States” (The New Press).
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By Gareth Porter Inter Press Service May 13, 2009 — WASHINGTON, May 12 (IPS)
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Change you can believe in? Mandate to end the war in Iraq? He sure isn’t walking the walk. “Collateral damage” carnage not a priority for our charming new President. It took this country two terms to fathom the horror of a Bush. How to fight the enchanted Obama apologists on the LEFT?
So all but 100 detaineees are released. So those released were the ferocious terrorists — the “suspects” held in cages and inflicted with atrocities for year after year after year. And of the 100 detainees it has been said maybe two dozen have serious and valid accusations against them. But Cheney keeps popping off about the righteousness of containing these people. Has anyone asked him what he has to say about the ones, the many, found mistakenly or unsubstantially held and released? Anything to say to them?
this is why they are being promoted – because they were in the middle of the Dark Side, and Obama is continuing the Dark Side policies promulgated by Cheney/Bush.
kinda simple, huh?
those of you who voted for him, this is what you voted for, and you own responsibility for the actions of these men the CIC appoints, just as Bush followers own responsibility for actions ordered by him.
He admitted in the interview that the decision was made by others to pursue “extraordinary” measures
in other words, ”I didn’t have nuthin to do with that”. Doesn’t wash for me. He was in it up to his neck.
my quotes didn’t work @31 and I thought I had blocked ‘by others‘ in bold.
I gather he’s the kind of guy who digs in and takes on guys whose hearts & minds shall not be changed. Apparently someone suggested him for the job. They must have thought he was a good fit for that.
And this is why the Repubs wil probably insist she be confirmed very soon…to irk Obama…who will then claim victory!
Ain’t politics a hoot?
It’s all clear now!
Rumsfeld adored him.
By William Norman Grigg June 01, 2009 “Pro Libertate”
[snip]
That is pretty arch! Came in just to snipe?
thanks siun for not losing sight of the bouncing ball of torturers and their apologists. obama = bush
If you compare the Human Rights Watch report to the Armed Services report on detainee abuse something becomes apparent. Levin clearly knows all about McChrystal. First, he was Chief of Staff for Taskforce-180 during Operation Enduring Freedom – so he was involved in the detainee policy (and requesting harsh techniques) from the get-go.
But more than that, as far as Iraq goes – the SMU-TF in Levin’s report clearly refers to JSOC (see the slip up on pg.159 where they miss redacting JSOC in relation to the Legal Adviser). And the SMU-TF facility is clearly Nama. Compare pages 159-163 & 193-194 of the Armed Services Committee report with pages 18-23 from the Human Rights Watch Report then compare pages 193-194 (ASC) with the footnote on pg. 6 (HRW).
It’s also very interesting the McCrystal apparently refused to sign any paperwork during his command! Obviously, Levin has to know about all this by now – he complied the un-redacted report for chrissake.
So my question: what does this say about Carl Levin? How much oversight would the Armed Services Committee have in terms of SOP review … has he possessed knowledge of military abuse policy from the start? He’s on the Armed Services Committee, the Intelligence Committee, and the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations … just sayin.
All of this just makes one physically ill. The secrets – the lies – the cover up – the cynical promotion of people who should instead be prosecuted for war crimes. In our upside down world the best and brightest don’t succeed, it’s the amoral, backstabbing freaks that win. It really makes this agnostic wish that there really was a heaven and hell so that all of the slimy bastards rewarded in this world could burn in hell for eternity.
This is extremely helpful – thank you!