Last year I was of the school that asserted oil prices were a macro- not micro- problem. That is, it was too much money speculating in oil, and not demand. It wasn’t that demand wasn’t outstripping supply, but neither was it the case that we had reached the point were supplies were so squeezed as to justify prices. The prevailing public view was that it was supply and demand for oil; when in fact, it was demand for parked money. This year there is no such choir saying oil supply and demand as spot prices for oil hit $66 dollars a barrel. Everyone knows that money is rushing into oil, ahead of an expected economic rebound later this year. Since no one has good futures, and because last year they were running over 100 dollars a barrel, more buyers are being forced to the spot market.
This dynamic is unchanged since 2004: no one knows what will lead the recovery, but everyone knows it will involve burning more oil. So buy oil. What is important, is that this creates competition for short term and long term treasury bonds. The reason for the collapse of Treasury Rates, was there was no place else to park money. Not in CDs, not in oil, not in futures, not in corporate bonds. So money poured into treasuries, creating a very short term pot of money. The stimulus and TARP fights were really about how to spend this money. Mostly it was spent on bailing out banks; some of it went back as inflationary tax cuts, which became corporate profits, as was predicted. A small amount went to prevent states from raising taxes, and a few droplets went to some actual counter-cyclical spending. That time, as predicted, is now past. That money can now be parked in places other than government bonds, at a higher yield, but backed by the government; so, in effect, government bonds, it will go there.
A month ago Mr Krugman and I sat on a panel convened in New York to discuss the financial crisis. I made the point that “the running of massive fiscal deficits in excess of 12 per cent of gross domestic product this year, and the issuance therefore of vast quantities of freshly-minted bonds” was likely to push long-term interest rates up, at a time when the Federal Reserve aims at keeping them down. I predicted a “painful tug-of-war between our monetary policy and our fiscal policy, as the markets realise just what a vast quantity of bonds are going to have to be absorbed by the financial system this year”.
De haut en bas came the patronising response: I belonged to a “Dark Age” of economics. It was “really sad” that my knowledge of the dismal science had not even got up to 1937 (the year after Keynes’s General Theory was published), much less its zenith in 2005 (the year Mr Krugman’s macro-economics textbook appeared). Did I not grasp that the key to the crisis was “a vast excess of desired savings over willing investment”? “We have a global savings glut,” explained Mr Krugman, “which is why there is, in fact, no upward pressure on interest rates.”
He, and people like Robert J. Barro are part of what can be called "the Treasury School" looking at this crisis: government debt crowds out private investment; with a great deal of government debt, interest rates must rise. However the reverse is the case: parking is crowding out public investment. No good is coming of rising oil prices, other than to restrain already muted demand at a very high cost. There is no exploration being done that would not have been done, largely because there are few places to explore except at high cost.
The "Treasury School" is not a liberal versus conservative argument, there are people on the left who see matters the same way. Likewise, the "Central Bank School" is not a liberal or conservative position either. The central bank school says essentially that prices are too high; that there are excess profits being converted into excess savings; but allowing deflation would be catastrophic. Therefore, the government can soak up the excess savings by spending without altering the actual economy. Bernanke, Summers, Krugman all hold one version or another of this view. This is the "Savings Glut" theory.
However, there is a third viewpoint. In this view, the functioning of the credit bubble has created a vast explosion of dislocation. Prices are wrong throughout the economy, and in a variety of ways. This viewpoint is also not liberal or conservative, it has both liberal and conservative versions, which is why the bill to have greater Federal Reserve Accountability is attracting bi-partisan support. The most visible adherent of this view is Nouriel Roubini, but it includes James K. Galbraith and many others. In this view the fundamental supply and demand loop is broken, and the fundamental means of price setting are broken. "Price Discovery" is not being allowed to happen, because of the carnage it would create; and therefore the economy will remain paralyzed.
Krugman argues a more sophisticated version of the savings glut at this point, saying that the problem is that the mechanism for converting savings, that is risk averse excess profit, into investment, that is risk seeking demand for new production, is broken. However, this mechanism was not a problem when the "savings glut" theory was advanced; and moreover, it was advanced by Bernanke, who had some ability to do something about it, but did not.
The upshot is now that money can rush back into oil, and into stocks, the cost of public borrowing long term must rise. It’s a matter of supply and demand. Previously the supply of safe places to park money was limited, and now it is not. The very decision to put rebound ahead of restructuring is closing the window of change. We are, in essence, right back to where we were before the credit explosion — around 2004 or so — ready to charge up the same hill of loose money from the central banks; going into rent seeking parked money; and choking of expansion, wages, employment, and capital formation beyond offshoring of old capital to lower wage and benefit areas. There is an immediate need for a second round of economic policy, one which actually sits in Congress by another name: the energy bill which is proposing, not "cap and trade" since 85% of all the allowances are to be given away, but "a new NIRA," that is a massive industrial policy based on specific regulation.
More on that, next week.
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two zeds in a row!
Increased demand for oil is a given. And supply is constrained, which is a recipe for increased prices, so speculators are acting rationally.
which bill/policy is that?
So supply is not going to increase until prices rise. Exploration, development of oil sands, etc needs to show some profitability before money will be invested. This is also true for alternatives to oil.
Rent seeking. Just another attempt at breeding money without having it actually creating anything like actual wealth.
Except for whining about it, Republics will mostly sit this one out. That’s not necessarily bad since their economic solutions are always the same: cutting tax cuts on rich and genuflecting before portraits of St. Reagan.
Ferguson is pissed at the mocking tone of Krugman’s account of his symposium comments. Would $3-4 a gallon gasoline really be such a bad thing when the economy strengthens a bit? Would support the move to smaller cars, conservation, green energy sources.
$4 dollars a gallon means a great deal of wealth in the hands of people who happen to be sitting on top of oil.
The problem is that tax rates are too low, not too high.
not if the price increase was due to some version of hansen’s proposed carbon tax and 100% dividend
Trying to take this all into my limited understanding of economics. It seems the law of supply and demand and “micro-economics” still stands but we are in the midst of a debate about macro-economics and what I learned was called “monetary policy.” Economists like Milton Friedman advocated a monetarist approach which meant no government intervention via “fiscal policies” i.e. tax and spend but only through control of the money supply. That should not be through a Federal Reserve that leaned against the wind but by Congress simply by setting monetary growth rates. Leave the rest of the economy alone.
Friedman won great acclaim from the public during the 1970’s when he denounced the inflation as a function of the government printing press. His views were admired by Reagan and I recall Paul Volcker who tried to implement a version of these theories in the 1980’s as federal Reserve Chair.
SWe haven’t heard much about that debate for a long time but it seems to me that a lot of policies pursued by Bush resembled what a lot of Democratic presidents were criticized for, i.e. running the government printing presses and budget deficits, but this time to fight a GWOT. My question is, what happened to the threat of inflation? Am I right to wonder, Stirling, if this money did not get to the public but into the money markets controlled by ??? speculators who park the money in various spots? Are we seeing the emergence of new schools of thought about monetary policy under a paper (as opposed to gold/specie) money economy?
Waxman-Markey
i hope not. that’s why i asked.
Since huge amounts of private debt is now government guaranteed, it is as safe as treasuries, but has better returns. Thus why be in treasuries?
Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble.
Book Salon a couple of flights upstairs with Dear President Obama… hosted by Christy
There is a glut of oil on the markets today. OPEC cannot stop the overproduction of it members, the onshore tanks are full, tankers harbored off shore are full, yet the prices rises since oil is seen as an inflation hedge.
The only improvement in the economy is the rate of decline has slowed, the “miles driven” chart is still going down, as is the trucker freight index. Economist are looking for a rebound in the second half of 09, but then the majority of these same economist were calling for a rebound in the second half of 08.
Same as it ever was.
I assume Stirling means that, beyond the merits (or lack thereof) of giving away 85% of the allowances to polluters/rent seekers etc, the bill also serves to redirect hundreds of billions towards particular industries and solutions. We’ll pay somewhat more for electricity and other energy, and those monies will function like a stimulus focused on the preferred solutions rewarded in the bill — hence, an industrial policy. He’s not saying they are his preferred solutions or industrial policy.
i’d prefer an industrial policy that i thought had a snowball’s chance in hell of saving the planet’s climate. and so am hoping stirling has some additional / innovative ideas.
Demand for energy may not necessarily be supplied by carbon based fuel. Alternatives may be cheaper with a Carbon control.
If we believe in the necessity of growth (pretty much the definition of cancer but that’s another argument), the imperative is to sever the link between GDP and carbon emissions. Despite what you will hear from legacy industries and their cheerleaders, this is not impossible and provides as many opportunities as challenges. But we have to get serious about it. Playing around the margins isn’t going to get it done. So far, I don’t see the commitment. It will require a massive undertaking and the reality of our actions don’t come within miles of matching the rhetoric. This effort is going to have to rival the defense budget. Who is ready for that?
The Gini Index is a rough measure of economic inequality in a society. It runs between 0.0 (absolute wealth equality) and 1.0 (absolute wealth inequality). One strand of economic theory says that economic growth is predicated on the strength of democratic institutions, which, not surprisingly, tend to be most robust where wealth equality is greatest (e.g. the Nordic countries). As the US Gini score has moved up, the erosion of its institutions can been seen as consistent with this view. We now see the rent-seeking behavior, cannibalizing of social programs, corruption, lack of transparency, and faked benchmarks for economic growth and competitiveness that all come with the economic retrograde that accompanies crumbling institutions. Americans today are suspicious of fundamental institutions, distrusting election results and the tax authorities. People like Lou Dobbs can make a good living explaining that Mexicans are stealing all the jobs that haven’t already been offshored to China or India. Returning economic justice will be a tricky proposition, but it is essential to national survival. What happens in California in coming months may be a good indicator of what lies ahead.
Where are these oil speculators getting the money to rent oil tankers from
our banks?
What happens to them if the price of oil stays down? Just how long can the oil speculators afford to sit on their parked oil tankers?
Diary please good points:)