The Wall Street Journal reports that one part of the Public Private Investment Program (PPIP) is failing, and for the right reason: fear of backlash about the enormous profits the program offered to the financial elites.
The Legacy Loan Program proposed to set up highly leveraged funds to buy bad loans from banks, cleaning up their balance sheets and hopefully encouraging lending. The banksters wanted to rip it off by buying their own loans with government assistance. That isn’t the product of the fevered imagination of some obnoxious blogger (we’ll get to that), that’s from a comment letter sent on behalf of a bunch of big banks to the FDIC.
Potential investors were worried that public outrage would force Congressional action if they reaped huge profits while the Treasury took most of the risk. They were also worried about FDIC regulation of conflicts of interest. Banks didn’t like it because of fears that Treasury might impose compensation caps and other controls. That was such a huge problem that Treasury was considering exempting them from those minor limits.
Apparently, national hostility over the great swindle has reached the stage that Treasury no longer can raid taxpayers for unlimited cash. It turns out that bankers only want taxpayer money if it comes with no strings attached. And, it turns out the FDIC’s Sheila Bair has a spine and isn’t going to let that happen. "We’ll show you," say the banks, "we won’t participate."
Bloomberg points out that comment letter (pdf), but you have to read the whole thing to get the flavor of the arrogance of the giant banks. Here’s a quote:
…both investors and banks must be willing to engage in transactions that involve prices for loans that approximate intrinsic values and reasonable profit expectations for the equity investors. We are concerned, however, that investor return requirements may involve pricing at which banks are unwilling, and even unable, to sell loans. If the pricing is significantly below intrinsic value, many banks will not be willing to participate in the program. For those banks that are willing to participate, not only would they be surrendering substantial value to the investors, but the resulting capital hole could prove very difficult to fill. Such a transfer of value would be inconsistent with the government’s objective of stabilizing the banking system and increasing lending.
The FDIC’s willingness to support leverage should enhance potential returns for investors and support prices that represent intrinsic value. It should be recognized, however, that the leverage proposed by the FDIC is well below the leverage at which even the most well capitalized banks maintain the loans. Accordingly, it is essential that the FDIC support as much leverage as it can justify. Likewise, the cost of this leverage should not exceed the banking industry’s cost of funds and, ideally, match the FDIC’s cost of funds.
Intrinsic value? That term appears seven times in the letter. What does it mean? The problem is that banks have a bunch of loans that look risky to regulators and investors, so much so that the regulators are worried about solvency, and investors have driven down financial stock prices. Those loans don’t have any intrinsic value; actually, no loan has an intrinsic value. They are only worth what someone else will pay for them. The idea of the Legacy Loan Program was to get those loans off the banks’ books, by setting up a kind of market, and establish a value the hard way, with someone else’s cash.
It’s a fair reading of this quote that the banks aren’t going to take less than the fake values on their books, unless the government makes up the loss. I’d just as soon not do that.
The FDIC also asked for comment on “potential conflicts which could arise among LLP participants”, which is probably the FDIC response to the rafter of bloggers who pointed out the risk that banksters would cheat, including Yves Smith. Here’s the bank response:
We believe that some media stories about “gaming” the system, such as banks swapping loans at artificially high prices, are more a product of a feverish imagination than of reality.
Sure. Feverish imagination, like banks using government money to buy out their own assets.



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I think the point may have finally been reached where the government is going to say no thanks, you can sell your bad loans on the market we set up, which is more than you could get anywhere else since no other market exists for these loans, or go down in flames. You choose.
I bet they choose to sell the loans…
We are accomplishing something with all these economic blog posts and comments:)
Nationalize the banks, already. The FDIC has seized almost 40 banks so far this year. It doesn’t hurt a damned thing, it’s how the system is designed to work. There’s just no rationale for letting the biggest banks avoid the same fate as smaller ones by getting unlimited infusions of taxpayer dollars. Talk about moral hazard.
“It should be recognized, however, that the leverage proposed by the FDIC is well below the leverage at which even the most well capitalized banks maintain the loans. Accordingly, it is essential that the FDIC support as much leverage as it can justify. Likewise, the cost of this leverage should not exceed the banking industry’s cost of funds and, ideally, match the FDIC’s cost of funds.”
Thanks Masaccio for continuing to publish about this stealing of taxpayer monies. It is THE LEVERAGE issue that has NOT be addressed by proposed regulations AND which the FASB (comprised of 3 corporatists who voted for the accounting changes and 2 people familiar with the derivatives industry that voted against the ‘mark to market changes -which the congress in all their paid for glory was pushing, thank you very much Barney Frank-) has encouraged by it’s latest ruling.
The banksters are doing their damndest to keep the rules of the game intact that allowed them to sink the economy.
Government wants to keep secrets from the populace; the banks (which DOES include the FED) want to keep secrets from the populace; and the populace doesn’t have any secrets to keep.
Thanks Obama for the Goldman Sachs Economic team you’ve installed; great legacy you’re creating.
Thank you for the edifying posts, masaccio. I’m hoping the banks will have to bite it like the rest of us.
I have a hard time believing that the investors and banks are backing away from making huge profits because of shame from the public. In the last decade, Congress has demonstrated over and over again its capability for boldness in speech only. In front of a microphone, our reps and senators gladly state how outraged they are, but when it comes to the pen, the legislation is an empty shell. When faced with violations of existing law, the airwaves are full of “how dare they’s” and “we demand accountability”, but investigative steps are intentionally delegated into purposeless committees. When faced with this type of castigation from Congress, I suspect that many would be glad to take the verbal beatings in exchange for keeping all the profits.
Perhaps they are backing away because they see that the assets truly have no value. or perhaps they are backing away in search of better terms. But I just can’t see them walking away from profits because of public backlash.
Reasonable profit in this market? How about break even or 10% loss without the government just what would the market be?
Intrinsic Value? You are assuming that both the economy and a market for selling bank loans both come back to their former levels in a few years.
I doubt that will happen. After all if Leveraged buying of bank loans is restricted the size of the buys will not be as big as before.
Also YEARS for the market to recover assuming it does the banks without the government will fail and will wait years before there loan values get back up to previous levels.
Screw the banks. Let them collapse!!!
Sorry, I got a little worked up with populist vigor there.
Be patient I’m sure that if the economy gets worse 15% unemployment instead of the expected 10% unemployment then the banks will fight to be Nationalized and the GOP will lead the charge.
Either Obama’s plan’s work for us and America gets working again soon or the banks will have to be Nationalized.
Because I am convinced that the banks are not reporting all their losses and unlike in good times the banks can’t rob Peter to pay Paul.
The banks sooner or later will have to admit those hidden losses.
The WSJ and Bloomberg quote anonymous sources on the reasons they don’t want to participate. I think that AIG uproar was a cautionary tale, and the press reporting that secured creditors got screwed in the Chrysler matter was a factor. That second one is a lie: secured creditors were able to bargain for the value of their collateral, it wasn’t worth what they thought it would be so they got hammered. Still, they are so used to getting their way, it worried them.
I see this as a minor success for the taxpayer, and we have to take them where we find them.
Maybe their is no profit to be made? The private market for buying bank debt is dead and not likely to get anywhere near its old levels.
Also I don’t think America has the money to cover all those loans and a level to give the banks a profit.
Maybe the banks and government are giving us a win rather than risk scaring the financial markets by admitting that they can’t buy all those loans at that level?
Only one answer to all this Bankster Thuggery…. Government Take Over and Then selling off all these “Banks To Big To Fail” assets and just break them up.. Kindo of Like Ma Bell…. To big to fail my ass.. greedy bastards
There still are no codified regulations although there is discussion of them. Additionally there is Grayson’s bill to bring transparency to the FED. Could this uncertainty also be leading to PPIP fail?
Now that’s a change I can believe in!
Any posters here currently in chicago for the NACBA?
Seems to me a large part of the problem is the banks’ feelings of entitlement. They don’t seem to be used to taking no for an answer; they’re used to calling all the shots and always coming out ahead of anyone else who dares to go up against them, including the gov’t, who they have bought and paid for.
Swopa is upstairs!
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By now, the FDIC has hired thousands of new personnel and can handle a CitiBank failure, methinks. So ya know what? Let ’em fail if they want to go that route.
The big question is how long the banks can wait for housing prices, and therefore their toxic assets, to rise from the ashes. If the economy returns to robust growth and the failure of one of these banks can be accepted, then there’s no reason for the gov’t to prop it up. At that point they might be allowed to fail. But, if they sell the toxic assets at some point before that, then maybe they can get on with doing normal business again.
Of course, it’s also possible they can simply ride it all out, like a mortgage company sitting on houses it can’t sell without losing everything.
We’ll see.
They are idiots if they think we don’t realize that. Regulations reform is on the way and if those banks aren’t strong enough they’re in trouble.
Q: How much does the national economy depend upon the big banks (the ones receiving TARP funds) for credit/lending?
If we get to a day when the economy can get by without so much from them, then what’s our incentive to prop them up. They need to get their acts together before that day arrives.
Massive public reactions tend to override the bought. But, more than that, I think Geithner and Bernanke are sensible and won’t keep insolvent banks lingering like zombies after the economy is stronger. They’ve only been propped up so long as their failure would have been disastrous for the rest of the economy.
I don’t see any evidence to support your view. It looks to me like Geithner is ready to keep on the same idiot track the Bushies started us on regardless of the evidence. In particular, the stress tests were correctly described on Saturday Night Live as Pass/Pass. The profit figures for the first quarter are suspect. I hope you are right, though.
Great comment.
Thank you for all you do for FDL and the taxpayers.