Oh for heaven’s sake. Our financial oligarchs are living in a fantasy world as remote from reality as any Yellow Elephant paintball bunker. Jesse Taylor finds this tripe by Peter Robinson in Forbes about business leaders afraid to speak out against the administration (per Atrios):
As far as I can tell–and I Googled on this until my fingertips grew tender–[Clifford] Asness is the only businessperson of any standing to have opposed the administration in public.
Really? You write about business Pete? For a living and everything?
How about hedge fund manager Orin Kramer, Obama’s biggest bundler, who said the President’s attempts to clawback AIG bonuses would "destroy the value of institutions where the government is an owner" and "drive people away from being willing to do business" with them? Or how about billionaire Les Crowne, who criticized Obama for his support of Employee Free Choice, saying it’s "absolutely the wrong thing to do?"
But let’s just cut through the bs and talk about why Asness (and other hedge fund managers) are upset.
In early 2008, Bill Gross — chairman of the world’s biggest bond fund, Pimco — started shifting the company’s investments into mortgage debt backed by Fannie & Freddie, because he was sure the government would bail them out. "We looked for assets that we felt the government would eventually have to own or support," said PIMCO’s Mohamed El-Erian.
Gross did the same thing with GMAC. "We tried to move ahead of the government," says Gross, "to purchase assets before we believe they will have to." Gross famously called it his "shake hands with Uncle Sam" plan. It’s been hugely lucrative for PIMCO and others, because the government did indeed step in and pay everyone off handsomely. In an era where the finance sector will no longer comprise 41% of GDP by milking a huge economic bubble, everyone is looking to taxpayers cleaning up after their own shady business practices as the biggest potential profit center.
So the co-investors that came together in 2007 to stupidly blow $6.9 billion on the Cerberus buyout of Chrysler thought they had gold on their balance sheets for an otherwise worthless investment. Their loans were in first position and secured, which meant that even if the company got chopped up and sold for parts, they’d be entitled to whatever was left in the event of bankruptcy.
Only that didn’t happen. The UAW’s VEBA trust had a $10.6 billion lien (and junior creditor position) against Chrysler. In bankruptcy, the judge gave the VEBA trust 55% of the stock, or .43 on the dollar for their investment, and the first position creditors got .30 for theirs, or so went the popular math.
"Long story short, a junior creditor was able to leap the senior-most creditor and in the process make a mockery of longstanding US bankruptcy law…capitalists have no choice but to sit up and take notice," said the cowering Eric Landry of Morningstar.
“The creditors’ rights were trashed and the unions got 55 percent of the company,” said "afraid to speak out" Jack Welch.
Gee, what’s missing from this story. Oh yeah:
- The US government has already dumped $7 billion into Chrysler.
- At that point, taxpayers became the "super senior creditors." That’s what it means when it says "debt owed to the government would be senior to other debts."
- As Steven Pearlstein and others have observed, the secured debt had a street value of .30 on the dollar — exactly what the hedge funds got.
- Had the government not loaned the $7 billion already, that secured debt would have been worth about zero cents on the dollar.
- The US government will take 8% of the company, which means they’ve essentially just transferred the bulk of their first position interest to the UAW and all other Chrysler stakeholders — they haven’t robbed the hedge funds crybabies of a dime.
In other words, Jack Welch and the rest of the corporate welfare set just assume that the government investment should go to them. As Pearlstein notes, the hedge funds were free to pump cash into Chrysler too and mitigate the need for government intervention, but they didn’t. They wanted to be cocooned from risk by the taxpayers and screw the workers too.
They’re incapable of seeing that the government acted not to help its "big labor donors" (which is garbage — finance dwarfed labor in direct contributions to the Obama campaign). The goal was not to give a way a bunch of money, but to keep Chrysler’s collapse from triggering a wave of 2 million job losses that could have precipitated a global economic meltdown.
If Chrysler is going to keep making cars, someone has got to work there. That’s part of the plan. And mewling hedge fund managers would have been eating well-deserved dirt on their entire investment had the government never stepped in, bailed them out, and given up their first-position status, which they’re entitled to do.
That’s capitalism.
But now the cowering, intimidated hedge fund managers "burned by Obama" are threatening not to loan to unionized companies unless they can "shake hands with Uncle Sam" too.
Well maybe they want to divest themselves of the 78 billion dollars that public pension funds now have invested in hedge funds on behalf of unionized employees while they’re at it? You know, they’re the ones the hedge funds say got ripped off on the Chrysler deal?
Orin Kramer is also Chairman of the New Jersey State Investment Council, which is tasked with oversight of the state’s public pension system. In 2006 he successfully pushed to shift a huge chunk of the state’s $72 billion pension fund to private money managers rather than state employees. Kramer was the "prime architect of the diversification strategy" that saw union retirees pick up the tab for $115 million in Lehman Brothers losses on money invested shortly before the firm’s collapse (which the state may now sue for).
If the hedge fund managers want no exposure to unions, maybe public pension funds should stop any risky exposure to unregulated hedge funds? Especially since those hedge funds derive so many of their profits from not paying their fair share of taxes, and are lobbing heavily in opposition to President Obama’s plan to be "fiscally responsible" and plug offshore tax haven loopholes.
That’s capitalism, too.
Related posts:
- Hedge Fund Concern Troll: Chrysler is a Terrible Precedent
- Should the Supremes Uphold the Chrysler Deal?
- “Funding the Fund”… or Not: Debunking WaPo’s Pro-Supplemental Editorial
- Obama: If Private Insurers are Such Crack Businesses, How Can “Incompetent” Government Put Them Out of Business?
- Jim Himes: Don’t Call Me a Corporatist!





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Labor unions threatening hedge funds with withdrawal of their pension funds if the hedge funds support anti-EFCA organizations: now that’s capitalism, or (as the hedgies call it) a shakedown.
I guess to the hedgies, capitalism is a shakedown.
In a reality-based world, the hedgies would be made illegal and their managers jailed, but I’m not holding my breath.
Actually if hedges got their cost down that should help them produce a better return pre bank bubble pay which well they cause the bubble with ponzai scheme $36to every $1 of collateral is not a sustainable business plan.
Pay levels based on imaginary returns cannot post bubble be sustained.
I would love to see a business plan that justifies that level of pay in this economy I love fiction.
hmmmm.. “asness ” eh ?? how very appropriate …
Seconded, thanks Teddy.
Asness must be a really hard name to go through life with.
Parasites killing their host hungry for more its not sustainable and if we try with more bailout we will die.
I wish I could get details on NewsCorps buying of the WallStreet Journal with Newscorps stock being used as collateral pre bank bailout prices.
The banks should be asking for more stock as collateral now that their stock price has dropped.
Remember Enron thats why their stock price fell after the 9/11 crash.
Are big banks protecting Newscorp? Are the tea baggers Newscorps way of pressuring Obama and through him the banks?
Damm should have asked this last thread.
Does anyone here expect things to get better in the U.S. of A.?
If so, how? And when?
There is no point pissing and moaning about Obama.
What you see is what you get.
The real question is whether there is going to be rebellion against the system that gave us the Bushes, Clinton, and Obama.
If all there is is voting for more and better Democrats, I say give it up.
I guess to the hedgies, capitalism is a shakedown.
That is in fact the purest form of capitalism. Want to see raw, unbridled capitalism in action? Go into any gang infested neighborhood and watch the drug dealers blow up everything in sight.
Can’t mention Cerberus without mentioning ex VP Dan Jane no one sane sane hands him money and expects a return.
We need to hammer that talking point!
Yes things will get better if we push Obama LEFT. If we fail investors will fail!
Junior Creditor doesn’t matter most senior creditor does matter they get paid first in FULL then the next guy gets paid the Unions should not have settled for 55%. according to the law. The Unions I hope settled for a deal on jobs I hope!
Corporate welfare….all the way
personal welfare …… not so much….
Betting on Corporate Welfare Sheesh Thats the Best they can do? I seriously need to apply for financial jobs.
I wonder how much more Obama kowtowing to Wall Street will be necessary to produce a 2012 primary opponent. And who that opponent might be. Democratic party voters, Obamamania notwithstanding, won’t stand for more compromise on torture, detention, health care, and corporate welfare.
We may find a place to go yet.
Stop being Prideful we may not have any financial choice but to oppose Obama the LEFTY blogs are full of older whites who have money in the market. And a few minorities this half ass stimulus either gets the market up or else!
Pushing Obama Left?
Isn’t that like pissing into the wind?
I wanted to believe in Obama.
But I’m too old to deceive myself.
Any real numbers on what Chrysler is worth now in a down economy where the banks are not financing takeovers with $36 to every $1 of collateral?
I mean just who would buy Chrysler now and at what price?
Arlen Specter will save us all. (Democrats)
I am heavily influenced by Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond in my thinking about a third party. I think Helms and Thurmond were much more effective in advancing the agenda of white supremacists than was George Wallace. I think a move to a third party would unite Democrats and the GOP against our candidates, who we would have serious trouble getting on the ballot. I doubt what’s left of the unions and the Black Caucus would follow us. They have too much to lose. Without them, we lack any GOTV and even less access to the TRAD Med than we currently have.
I think a flexible strategy of uniting with libertarians on specific issues/legislation that we agree upon makes more sense.
I think it would be a mistake to take a move to a third party off the table, but until we have had success at the state level, I think it would be premature.
I don’t mean to imply that staying inside the Dem party doesn’t carry serious risks, it does.
Its our only hope I’m hoping the next economic crisis pushes him LEFT but I know Rahm is pushing the guys fronting the Tea Baggers. Still the Tea Baggers got less support than one would expect.
This post by Jane is evidence of why she doesn’t have her own TV show as Maddow or Olberman or Schultz do. She is on top of the facts and not given to sweet talk toward the big wheels. The biggies would be afraid to come on her show because they could not slip past her, so she wouldn’t have many guests defending the indefensible. Well, we have her insight and writing abilities here. Too bad for the rest of the world.
They are all Ron Paul Stormfront Tea Baggers now they hate us.
FDL is supporting Paul’s legislation to audit the FED.
A lot of the teabaggers already hate us over choice.
Some of Paul’s supporters were with us on FISA and preserving civil liberties.
Agree.
It’s why we haven’t met our goal yet for Marcy. Everyone knows FDL cannot be bought.
In this market with no buyers because of no $36 to every $1 of collateral credit I think its WAY too much. Still great way to use their own fake numbers against them Jane!
Clocks in Hell are right twice a day.
i’m v happy to join with principled libertarians on civil rights – but what you describe gives me nowhere to go for sane health care or climate policies because the dems have now shown themselves to be intellectually and morally bankrupt on these critical issues.
Jack never said boo out side of GE loosing money and considering his hand in that he should have keep quiet.
I’m sure Jack invested in Chrysler.
Just how much is the question I’m guessing allot. His business book I’m a genius sales should slide soon.
Unfortunately, I think you’re living in dreamland. Obama is super popular at the moment. The recovery will likely come just in time for an easy follow-up in 2012 and the Throw Cash at the Health Insurers Act will be sold as a huge win for the people. He won’t go left because no threat from the left is even close to credible. If you had even one major newspaper even in the centre, let alone left leaning, just maybe, but you don’t.
Watch healthcare fall apart this summer. We’ll see how much Democrats love Obama then.
The next part is putting hybrid engines in the big cars Americans want I hope?
You’re correct.
The risk liberals and progressives run by staying inside the Democratic party is that we are tainted by it. Wrong on torture, wrong on pre-emptive war, wrong on single payer, …..
I didn’t mean to imply that the decision to stay in the Democratic party was an easy one or the right one. It’s just the one I’m sticking with for the immediate future.
Seems to me, healthcare has already fallen apart.
Sales of the “public plan” are in full tilt boogie, while “public plan” does not mean what people want it to mean.
There will be another big bank bailout. To sell it Obama needs us which means more stimulus and a limit on CEO pay or Obama can hope the Tea Baggers will support him.
GIven their Stormwatch ties I think no matter what he does they will still hate him plus their numbers are not impressive.
A-yep. But of course saying this makes one unpopular in some circles. Particularly those that practice the Two Minutes’ Hate against anyone the majority of the public likes.
looks to me like healthcare has already fallen apart – at least i can’t find anyone who can explain to me how a program the insurance companies will accept can actually work.
lots talking points and frame but no substance.
pitiful.
but i’ve come to think that the whole healthcare kabuki has been about keeping single payer off the table. and if that true, so far they’ve been smashingly successful.
some days i really hate the dems.
i agree that being tainted by the dems is a big risk.
also, i’m still convinced there is value in different approaches – especially regionally. here in the NE, there are very few republicans and it might make more sense to look outside the D party (see bernie sanders). elsewhere i expect the situation looks quite different.
at this time though, i’ve decided to be a vote (and support) that must be earned.
We got the numbers the Tea baggers don’t plus subtract Tea baggers numbers from the real libertarians.
But to be fair they got Jack Welch, Fox News and more money to buy congress this should be an interesting fight.
Just when do People trump money in America.
I am all for auditing the Fed and many of their ideas I just can’t walk with Ron Paul or the tea baggers.
But now the cowering, intimidated hedge fund managers “burned by Obama” are threatening not to loan to unionized companies unless they can “shake hands with Uncle Sam” too.
We are not powerless tell the hedgefunds the banks Obama owns will look at their loans backed by stocks and if the stock has dropped enough demand more stock as collateral NOW!
We would then own how many hedgefunds?
Cripes! I needed to ask this last thread all my good ideas come after I have time to think.
Yeah we can F#$% them!
I wonder if Orin got money from the hedge funds to steer his cash there way?
Is that one of their screens on how they limit investments inquiring minds want to know JUST WHY big fund performance trails the DOw and SP average. Despite hiring the brightest College Grads, having the best research and having enough pull to get inside deals.
As a lone investor I know I won’t get first crack at a hot IPO initial public offering of stock but the big guys will and despite all those advantages and the corporate welfare they suck?
I respectfully disagree…Jane displayed a healthy sense of humor as a MSM guest last week. She was extremely diplomatic and artful in making her case while not seemibg offensive.
She has more charm than Rachel. She has the potential to be a good trial lawyer if she wanted to get a law degree.
Getting a network that wants the facts is another stroy.
Next presidential elction Obama is running as a republican…G)
Thanks, again, Jane. “Follow the money” where it really goes – not where spin managers and their self-serving statements say it goes – is always a smart thing for a journalist to do.
For a government so desperate for cash, it seems strange that one of its first steps wasn’t to plug tax loopholes, such as the absurd hedge fund manager tax loophole that permits them a low capital gains rate for income that carries no personal risk. It’s compensation and should be taxed like it. The difference would more than double the paltry tax paid by these supposedly inventive, but really parasitic opportunists. There’s no reason the public should subsidize them, while being burned by them.
Blue Dog, Republican whats the difference? Oh wait the GOP seems to be going more right.
From what I’ve seen of Forbes in the last ten years or so, it’s another part of the GOP propaganda machine. Reporting, not so much. (One of my friends signed up for a free subscription from Forbes, and after a few issues started tossing them out before reading.)
I’m probably EPUed at this point, but I didn’t say that Jane doesn’t have a sense of humor or isn’t diplomatic. What I intended to be understood is that she knows what she is talking about, won’t waste any time talking about silly OT points, and will not hesitate to ask the questions or make the statements that need to be made. She would do it pleasantly, but she would not let slide the erroneous or lying comments by guests.
yeah for instance, a third party who had spoken to him on the phone, upon meeting for the first time might say:
so……you’re assnes.
“Long story short, a junior creditor was able to leap the senior-most creditor and in the process make a mockery of longstanding US bankruptcy law…capitalists have no choice but to sit up and take notice,” said the cowering Eric “
wonder what the law firm that did the deal is thinking right now. ouch