he never went to sleep.

That’s not true, Cheney just sleeps during the day… in a coffin.

“Except on September 10th, 2001.”

What’s the special asterisk to slap onto the “W-Cheney kept America safe” lame-meme?

Cheney… never went to sleep.

Well, that certainly explains the insanity…

Romney kissed Cheney on all four cheeks.

OT:

The California Supreme Court just announced that it will release its decision on the fate of Proposition 8 on Tuesday, May 26.

How can someone as unpopular as Cheney remain so powerful?????????

that photo reminds us that Mitt is above all, a proctocol, logical guy.

Now, watch this drive turn your head and cough.

I think about that too. Makes me think “hmmmmmm”.

ROFL and coughing and choking!!!

BT, awesome awesome photo…jeez.

THE REPUBLICAN POLITICS OF ILLEGAL POLICIES

Republicans are all about POLITICS and APPEARANCE, while thumbing their noses at LAWS and FACTS. The LEGAL arena is the last place they want to go, because they know they tried to subvert laws that were well-established with numerous precedents that clearly forbade waterboarding and other harsh interrogation tactics.

Why they wanted to employ these tactics is LEGALLY IRRELEVANT.

Whether they gained anything of value from these tactics is LEGALLY IRRELEVANT.

Believing that TORTURE is and always has been ILLEGAL, immoral and unacceptable is not an opposing policy view; it is a LEGAL FACT.

When the Karl Rove’s of the world characterize WATERBOARDING/TORTURE as a “policy disagreement”, they are ignoring the FACT that TORTURE is and always has been ILLEGAL, immoral and unacceptable per the U.S. Constitution, the Geneva Convention Accords and the moral, ethical and societal values of America, Americans and EVERY civilized society in the modern world.

Are we a nation of laws that are SELECTIVELY ignored, or are we a nation that enforces its laws so that no citizen need wonder if their rights are truly INALIENABLE?

Andrew Sullivan raises a good question: http://andrewsullivan.theatlan…..-rape.html

One way to look at how the Bush administration redefined torture out of existence, so that it could, er, torture human beings, is to compare their criteria for “enhanced interrogation” with those for rape. Raping someone need not leave any long-term physical scars; it certainly doesn’t permanently impair any bodily organ; it has no uniquely graphic dimensions …. and although it’s cruel, it’s hardly unusual….

So ask yourself: if Abu Zubaydah had been raped 83 times, would we be talking about no legal consequences for his rapist – or the people who monitored and authorized the rape?

This is actually quite a powerful argument. It would be interesting to hear a response from the “nothing to see here, quit looking backward” crowd.

Former Vice President Cheney seeks no political future. He speaks from the vantage of one who witnessed the killing of our fellow citizens, who deliberated and defined the strategy that would successfully prevent further murders of our fellow Americans. His address today was direct, well-reasoned, and convincing.

they’re all lying sacs of crap, as wilkerson told us unequivically, FAR more american’s died AFTER 9/11 then before and specifically BECAUSE of cheney’s depraved actions against our constitution

how the HELL do these people come off making those rediculous statements unchallenged

REPUBLICANS INCAPABLE OF LEARNING FROM THEIR MISTAKES

In order to gain the political power they’ve enjoyed for more than a decade, Republican moderates and fiscal conservatives made a pact with the devil (faux Christians, bigots and misanthropes) to achieve the numbers they needed to defeat Democrats. They made a strategic decision to manipulate and exploit the ignorance, fears and hatreds of dysfunctional and vulnerable voters in order to win elections rather than lose them by being intellectually and morally honest.

Today, those who conspired with the devil are caught between wanting to disassociate themselves with and or casting out the devil they empowered and the karmic reality that they don’t have the numbers to hold on to or regain power without continuing to accept and “advocate” the immoral values, hypocrisies and corruptions that are dividing and destroying their party.

The survival of today’s shrinking Republican Party has become so dependent on extremism that they have no significant power left WITH or WITHOUT the support of America’s increasingly pernicious lunatic fringe.

The idiom “caught between the devil and the deep blue sea” is certainly appropriate as Republicans are facing the dilemma of choosing between two equally undesirable alternatives that both result in Republican impotence in mainstream American politics. They are suffering the consequences of their treachery.

Their irresponsible propping up of George W. Bush cost them their credibility, and their disgraceful and shameless licking of Rush Limbaugh’s storm trooper boots is costing them their viability.

Billy Boy still meddling some kristol myth:

Cheney vs. Obama: A Mismatch
I’ve read both speeches. [I’m so glad he can read…]
Obama’s is the speech of a young senator who was once a part-time law professor–platitudinous and preachy, vague and pseudo-thoughtful in an abstract kind of way. This sentence was revealing: “On the other hand, I recently opposed the release of certain photographs that were taken of detainees by U.S. personnel between 2002 and 2004.” “Opposed the release”? Doesn’t he mean “decided not to permit the release”? He’s president. He’s not just a guy participating in a debate. But he’s more comfortable as a debater, not as someone who takes responsibility for decisions.
[Aside from the snide tone that comes naturally to neocons, they still push the unitary executive theory even here. Interesting.]

Cheney’s is the speech of a grownup, of a chief executive, of a statesman. He’s sober, realistic and concrete, stands up for his country and its public officials, and has an acute awareness of the consequences of the choices one makes as a public official [agreed!] and a willingness to take responsibility for those choices. [uh, take pride maybe, responsibility? not so much]
Posted by William Kristol on May 21, 2009 11:04 AM | Permalink

REPUBLICANS INCAPABLE OF LEARNING FROM THEIR MISTAKES

Replicans don’t make mistakes dontcha know. /s

Not sleeping for eight years must be what drove ol Dick completely out of his mind.

God Mitt’s a malicious little moron. What the hell is he even trying to say? Republicans seem oppose the whole concept of communication.

Every time I see Mitt I think of used car lots. Can’t imagine why. /s

Today, those who conspired with the devil are caught between wanting to disassociate themselves with and or casting out the devil they empowered and the karmic reality that they don’t have the numbers to hold on to or regain power without continuing to accept and “advocate” the immoral values, hypocrisies and corruptions that are dividing and destroying their party.

that’s a terrific post, it could stand as it’s own topic on our oxdown

Dick may never have slept, but we all know how demented extended sleep deprivation makes us. One begins to live off one’s fears, and see them in everything and everyone else.

Somehow I don’t see Cheney as missing very much sleep. Seems I can recall his catching a few zzs no matter what was going on around him. *g*

It’s hard to believe that people like Mitt Romney–and anybody else, for that matter–can get away with saying something like Dick Cheney never went to sleep on terrorism. As BT notes, he was asleep on Sept 10 2001, but he’d already been dozing since Jan 20. He never took terrorism seriously until after it gave him the excuse to wage his (and Bush’s) war of choice in Iraq. Say what you will about the Nine-Eleven Truthies, Cheney’s abdication of responsibility both before and after 9/11 is so gross, so malfeasant, so spectacular, that it’s almost hard to believe that it wasn’t planned. Can a human being be that stupefyingly misguided in his principles? With Cheney the answer is, I suppose, yes, but man that is some major, world-class fucking up and the fact that he still has not been called to task on it is only one of the great scandals of our time.

Cheney cares nothing about us, only about himself and his own power. period.

Did Willard just go on record as having said Cheney witnessed detainees being tortured to death? We know that shooter has never been to anything near a war where he could have actually seen a combat death, so what has the pudding said about our ex king?
Did shooter tell mittens (or someone that leaked it to the idiot, not assuming that shooter would have anything to do with the idiot unless it was fundraising) about having witnessed death? adds an interesting bit to the narrative.

o/t

understatement of the year:

norah o’donnell just asked “is there more work to be done on factchecking by journalists and us on like things that Cheney and others are saying?”

head/desk.

Red carpet Cheney: he rolled it out for fifteen Saudi dupes.

Is Mitt cleaning up after his dog again?

Did the roof of his car get soiled?

Scarecrow promoted!
Why Is Obama Debating Cheney About the Rule of Law?

Head on desk…oh yeah.

Why do they phrase these things as questions?

My very thought, as I listened, briefly, to Andrea Mitchell “discussing” Pelosi and he cIA with David Ignatius (sigh), was “Why the hell aren’t you pulling up all the video of Republicans saying that the CIA lied? There’s plenty to choose from, that’s your JOB, you stoopid………..

Sigh.

Hey, BT, are you still here? I came by to ask if you’ve heard the latest about the gubmints in our fair state:

http://www.reporternews.com/ne…..om-mexico/

The mayor fled to Mexico just after being elected, failing to notify anyone or to show up for his swearing-in.

I tell ya, the stories just keep on comin’.

lapdog media.
They got scared after 9/11 and all the you’re with us or agin us talk.
Remember Crossfire? It went off the air for about 2-3 months when going to war with Iraq was being discussed. Whatever its failings as a show, there were some dissenting opinions, and that was simply not allowed.

Willard, the undead need no sleep.

Cheney witnessed the killing of our fellow citizens?! Dang, and here all this time I thought he was in a man safe in an undisclosed location, or on a deferment somewhere.

I never realized He. was. Right. There.

By the way, all I see is Dick (and we all wish that would stop). What happened to Georgie?

IIRC, There are photos out there of Darth sleeping. I saw them. Should fine them and send them to Mitt.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..wildfires/
There are other stories about his nodding off at inappropriate times. “He never slept” must not be meant literally.