Comments on: C’mon In, Hannity — The Waterboarding’s Fine! http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/ Firedoglake weblog Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:54:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: john2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904717 john2 Sat, 23 May 2009 02:09:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904717 <p>Rush doesn’t think waterboarding is torture. Perhaps he’d like to show us how tough he really is. </p> <p>Just the fact that the men running the WB session have to wear hoods makes me very uneasy. We’re so quickly adopting the tactics of a police state. If video tapes of torture sessions hurt your case (Dick), just destroy the tapes. The rule of law is quaint.</p> Rush doesn’t think waterboarding is torture. Perhaps he’d like to show us how tough he really is.

Just the fact that the men running the WB session have to wear hoods makes me very uneasy. We’re so quickly adopting the tactics of a police state. If video tapes of torture sessions hurt your case (Dick), just destroy the tapes. The rule of law is quaint.

]]> By: pmorlan http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904699 pmorlan Sat, 23 May 2009 01:21:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904699 <p>Great post, Swopa. I piggybacked onto your post at <a href="http://democracity.blogspot.com/2009/05/when-will-liz-cheney-admit-that.html" rel="nofollow">my blog.</a></p> Great post, Swopa. I piggybacked onto your post at my blog.

]]> By: cocktailhag http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904690 cocktailhag Sat, 23 May 2009 00:44:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904690 <p>My favorite part was the end, when he says he “never would have done it.” Would have still excused and cheered it for years, and advocated it for others, natch, but now he realizes, albeit belatedly, that it’s not for him.<br /> Is their an instrument small enough to measure righty empathy, let alone genitalia?<br /> Sheesh.<br /> I think Hannity will be soon producing a Doctor’s excuse.</p> My favorite part was the end, when he says he “never would have done it.” Would have still excused and cheered it for years, and advocated it for others, natch, but now he realizes, albeit belatedly, that it’s not for him.
Is their an instrument small enough to measure righty empathy, let alone genitalia?
Sheesh.
I think Hannity will be soon producing a Doctor’s excuse.

]]> By: Jkat http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904684 Jkat Fri, 22 May 2009 23:40:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904684 <p>SD ..phrogs [46’s] and <a href="http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-53_Sea_Stallion" rel="nofollow">53’s </a>… mostly phrogs ..</p> SD ..phrogs [46’s] and 53’s … mostly phrogs ..

]]> By: wmd1961 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904683 wmd1961 Fri, 22 May 2009 23:31:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904683 <p>No question waterboarding is torture. These volunteers have some control over the situation and they say it is, detainees don’t have any control.</p> <p>I have no idea what was in the deleted post, I was offering deference to the lurking moderator. I can imagine a somewhat sadistic post detailing pulling Hannity off set would cause some alarm and the post to be deleted.</p> <p>I think others are on to something that waterboarding is minor compared to other torture techniques. We don’t have any apologists suggesting they be walled, or exposed to ice water for extended periods. Induced hypothermia would shock most people’s conscience. Makes my hair stand on end just to write the phrase.</p> No question waterboarding is torture. These volunteers have some control over the situation and they say it is, detainees don’t have any control.

I have no idea what was in the deleted post, I was offering deference to the lurking moderator. I can imagine a somewhat sadistic post detailing pulling Hannity off set would cause some alarm and the post to be deleted.

I think others are on to something that waterboarding is minor compared to other torture techniques. We don’t have any apologists suggesting they be walled, or exposed to ice water for extended periods. Induced hypothermia would shock most people’s conscience. Makes my hair stand on end just to write the phrase.

]]> By: KayInMaine http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904681 KayInMaine Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904681 <p>Well, it may have been to the author, but the point I was trying to make is in the video above, it’s waterboarding knowing you can give up at any time, which is the exact opposite of what REALLY happens when a person is kidnapped and then taken to a secret location to be waterboarded. Those around the person aren’t nice to the person from the get go. Hannity, in all his masochism should be taken from his chair while on the air to get the full effect of what torture really is. It’s not fun, it doesn’t cause pain like a broken leg would, but it is torture because it’s near drowning while your body is not allowed to move to save yourself.</p> Well, it may have been to the author, but the point I was trying to make is in the video above, it’s waterboarding knowing you can give up at any time, which is the exact opposite of what REALLY happens when a person is kidnapped and then taken to a secret location to be waterboarded. Those around the person aren’t nice to the person from the get go. Hannity, in all his masochism should be taken from his chair while on the air to get the full effect of what torture really is. It’s not fun, it doesn’t cause pain like a broken leg would, but it is torture because it’s near drowning while your body is not allowed to move to save yourself.

]]> By: Jo Fish http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904678 Jo Fish Fri, 22 May 2009 23:07:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904678 <p>“Mancow’s” <strong>Waterboarding</strong> wasn’t even to the same standards, if you want to call it that, of what they did to us in SERE. The towel, not a t-shirt, a thick towel, was soaking wet, and placed over the whole face… no “mouth exception”, the subject was also more in a “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trendelenburg_position" rel="nofollow">Trendelenburg position</a>” and not as flat as Mancow was, which I think had the effect of being more disorienting that what Mancow was, and he seemed pretty disoriented. </p> <p>Quien es mas macho now, asshole? I can’t believe this shit. Well, <em>at least he admitted it’s torture.</em> Now what does he think of having that done with no regard 183 times in a month, essentially six times a day?</p> “Mancow’s” Waterboarding wasn’t even to the same standards, if you want to call it that, of what they did to us in SERE. The towel, not a t-shirt, a thick towel, was soaking wet, and placed over the whole face… no “mouth exception”, the subject was also more in a “Trendelenburg position” and not as flat as Mancow was, which I think had the effect of being more disorienting that what Mancow was, and he seemed pretty disoriented.

Quien es mas macho now, asshole? I can’t believe this shit. Well, at least he admitted it’s torture. Now what does he think of having that done with no regard 183 times in a month, essentially six times a day?

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904677 dmac Fri, 22 May 2009 23:06:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904677 <p>from a show from june 28,2006–<br /> in the summer of 2004, at the request of w. winkelberger, asst sofd human affairs, the army surgeon general did an in-depth inquiry to all 1,100 medical personnel about witnessing, participating in and reporting torture…the report was never released and can’t find a mention of it anywhere.</p> <p>winkelberger said, no, not any problem here.</p> <p><a href="http://wamu.org/programs/dr/06/06/28.php" rel="nofollow">http://wamu.org/programs/dr/06/06/28.php</a></p> <p>also said there are 180 medical facilities where detainees were. that number is way higher than any other number disclosed.</p> from a show from june 28,2006–
in the summer of 2004, at the request of w. winkelberger, asst sofd human affairs, the army surgeon general did an in-depth inquiry to all 1,100 medical personnel about witnessing, participating in and reporting torture…the report was never released and can’t find a mention of it anywhere.

winkelberger said, no, not any problem here.

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/06/06/28.php

also said there are 180 medical facilities where detainees were. that number is way higher than any other number disclosed.

]]> By: Monty http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904674 Monty Fri, 22 May 2009 22:58:47 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904674 <p>C’mon, Hannity. Afraid of a little <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtEdbC2qrbE" rel="nofollow">dunking?</a></p> C’mon, Hannity. Afraid of a little dunking?

]]> By: TheLurkingMod http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904673 TheLurkingMod Fri, 22 May 2009 22:58:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/#comment-1904673 <p>Buckle Up! EW has Breaking News, upstairs!<br /><a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/breaking-judge-walker-gets-ready-to-penalize-the-government-in-al-haramain/" rel="nofollow">Breaking! Judge Walker Gets Ready to Penalize the Government in al-Haramain</a></p> Buckle Up! EW has Breaking News, upstairs!
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