Comments on: Dick Cheney: Nothing is More Consistent with American Values than Torture

By: rjrnab

rjrnab — Fri, 22 May 2009 04:12:38 +0000

It is pretty obvious Cheney just wanted to be another Mormon Billionaire like Simplot, Alberts, England, Pennys what have you. Like his Tea-Pot dome intermountain state he got involved with oil, and was a typical afluent 60’s draft dodger. If he couldn’t come away with as much power as say Orin Hatchet or, ( see senator from Nevada in Godfather II ) he could make it with those Texas (Energy) men. Just like that George Bush in the CIA, you know ol’ Jerry Fords buddy, he could hob-nob it up with Kissenger etc, and make his mark in the NWO with real gazillionaires. But, oh-oh why can’t we still find out how they decided to push the Master Reset Button that summer of 2001 at Dick’s little (Enronergy) meeting.

By: DrZen

DrZen — Fri, 22 May 2009 02:34:44 +0000

Why should Cheney shut up? He’s winning the debate easily. It helps that President Obama agrees with him.

By: earlofhuntingdon

earlofhuntingdon — Thu, 21 May 2009 23:54:50 +0000

All of Dick Cheney’s speeches sound better in the original German. They sound so much more verschaerfte.

By: Blackneck

Blackneck — Thu, 21 May 2009 23:12:46 +0000

Dick Cheney is fearful and that’s what it is
Cowards and preemptive strikes are in the same business!

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:00:24 +0000

Has anyone told Cheney that the MOST VALUABLE INFORMATION OBTAINED BY “HIS” PRISONERS was obtained WITHOUT USING TORTURE? Someone ought to.

By: Palli

Palli — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:45:51 +0000

And when an entire population is targeted by a terror network, nothing is more consistent with American values than to stop them.

Yes, we need to stop them- Cheney and all fearmongering torturers

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:28:53 +0000

If Cheney and the Republicans really believed that the American people wanted to eviscerate the Constitution…then why didn’t he propose a Constitutional Amendment ~~getting rid of~~“revising” Habeas Corpus, the 5th and 14th Amendments, etc. He knows damn well that if it was put up front before the American people they would say NO!

In fact, the Republicans can do this NOW! The could put up a Constitutional Amendment giving Presidents the right to wire-tap domestic and international insurgents, torture terror “suspects” and those that might have information regarding their acts, groups that form militia groups that state they are intent or motivated on overthrowing the government, etc.

By: der1

der1 — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:39:48 +0000

Yeah, not that we couldn’t spend some of the $500 Billion that goes to the Pentagon on social programs to help those desperately in need before they do something horrible: Schultz described Toribio as a transient who was kicked out of her mother’s home on May 7 because of the way she treated her son. A few days later she was kicked out of a friend’s house for the same reason, he said.

Toribio had no history of substance or alcohol abuse and only a traffic citation on her record.

“What makes this story especially sad was when asked the reason why she took Ty’s life, Tiffany said that she did not want him to grow up with no one caring about him the same way that she had grown up with no one caring about her,” Schultz said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....round_body

Showing compassion and empathy and offering a hand with child care, parenting classes, homeless shelters and support, you know “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”…that’s commie, socialist, fascist crapolla….reach down and grab those boot straps and give a good pull….that’s the American Way….and torture.

By: CCinNC

CCinNC — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:55:21 +0000

Reader, I wondered if anyone else picked up on this. Hearing the word “libel” started it for me.

By: CalGeorge

CalGeorge — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:25:51 +0000

“And when an entire population is targeted by a terror network, nothing is more consistent with American values than to stop them.”

The countries that have been the victims of American-style terrorism and aggression will be very happy to apply this same logic to us.

Noam Chomsky:

Creating Terrorists

There is still much debate about whether torture has been effective in eliciting information — the assumption being, apparently, that if it is effective, then it may be justified. By the same argument, when Nicaragua captured U.S. pilot Eugene Hasenfuss in 1986, after shooting down his plane delivering aid to U.S.-supported Contra forces, they should not have tried him, found him guilty, and then sent him back to the U.S., as they did. Instead, they should have applied the CIA torture paradigm to try to extract information about other terrorist atrocities being planned and implemented in Washington, no small matter for a tiny, impoverished country under terrorist attack by the global superpower.

By the same standards, if the Nicaraguans had been able to capture the chief terrorism coordinator, John Negroponte, then U.S. ambassador in Honduras (later appointed as the first Director of National Intelligence, essentially counterterrorism czar, without eliciting a murmur), they should have done the same. Cuba would have been justified in acting similarly, had the Castro government been able to lay hands on the Kennedy brothers. There is no need to bring up what their victims should have done to Henry Kissinger, Ronald Reagan, and other leading terrorist commanders, whose exploits leave al-Qaeda in the dust, and who doubtless had ample information that could have prevented further “ticking bomb” attacks.

Such considerations never seem to arise in public discussion.

http://www.alternet.org/rights.....mmit_them/