Comments on: Gibbs Punts on DOMA: “I will have to go check on that….” http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:17:29 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: james http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902118 james Tue, 19 May 2009 16:41:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902118 <p>No one should have been surprised by Carney. Even before he ran there was info out there that he had been part of Feith’s office in the Pentagon. THAT was his military experience…He was part of Feith’s disinformation organization, the Office of Special Plans, an outfit that took its name from a Third Reich agency, word for word.</p> <p>I still say impeach Obama for failing to vigorously investigate and prosecute war crimes committed by his predecessor. That will get his attention.</p> No one should have been surprised by Carney. Even before he ran there was info out there that he had been part of Feith’s office in the Pentagon. THAT was his military experience…He was part of Feith’s disinformation organization, the Office of Special Plans, an outfit that took its name from a Third Reich agency, word for word.

I still say impeach Obama for failing to vigorously investigate and prosecute war crimes committed by his predecessor. That will get his attention.

]]> By: brendanscalling http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902090 brendanscalling Tue, 19 May 2009 15:28:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902090 <p>I think james just really hit the nail on the head.<br /> it’s like chris carney all over again.</p> <p>that’s maybe a little hyperbolic, but not much considering the backtracks on:<br /> state secrets<br /> FISA<br /> detainee rights<br /> gitmo kangaroo courts<br /> mountaintop removal<br /> detainee photos<br /> and now, perhaps, DADT.</p> <p><a href="http://thegreatestrocknrollsiteintheworld.blogspot.com/2007/06/ever-get-feeling-youve-been-cheated.html" rel="nofollow">Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?</a></p> I think james just really hit the nail on the head.
it’s like chris carney all over again.

that’s maybe a little hyperbolic, but not much considering the backtracks on:
state secrets
FISA
detainee rights
gitmo kangaroo courts
mountaintop removal
detainee photos
and now, perhaps, DADT.

Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?

]]> By: james http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902083 james Tue, 19 May 2009 15:22:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902083 <p>Engels had an answer for this in 1893. He described the US political system as being made up of “two great gangs of speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt ends.”</p> <p>Looking at Obama as the lesser of two evils when it came to the 2008 election, it’s understandable that his policies once in office would differ significantly from his promises on the campaign trail. He doesn’t need to convince a bunch of DFHs to vote for him any more; he’s already neutralized the more radical wing of the party regardless of how loudly the wingnuts at FOX call him a socialist.</p> <p>We aren’t his constituency and we never were no matter how much money he raised from the netroots. He always belonged to the establishment and to Wall Street.</p> Engels had an answer for this in 1893. He described the US political system as being made up of “two great gangs of speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt ends.”

Looking at Obama as the lesser of two evils when it came to the 2008 election, it’s understandable that his policies once in office would differ significantly from his promises on the campaign trail. He doesn’t need to convince a bunch of DFHs to vote for him any more; he’s already neutralized the more radical wing of the party regardless of how loudly the wingnuts at FOX call him a socialist.

We aren’t his constituency and we never were no matter how much money he raised from the netroots. He always belonged to the establishment and to Wall Street.

]]> By: demi http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902068 demi Tue, 19 May 2009 14:55:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902068 <p>Sho nuff.</p> Sho nuff.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902067 eCAHNomics Tue, 19 May 2009 14:52:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902067 <p>Thanks.</p> Thanks.

]]> By: cbl2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902066 cbl2 Tue, 19 May 2009 14:49:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902066 <p>Mornin’ Teddy and Firedogs,</p> <p>Teddy, you’ve probably seen it, <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/18/732663/-Tonight-we-said-goodbye-to-a-photograph-(UPDATED)" rel="nofollow">a diary over at Big Orange </a> detailing the tragic, brutal, and unconscionable treatment of a gay couple as one lay dying.</p> <p>one can see in the comments - a wake up call for many on the progressive side who think “civil unions”, POA’s, etc. can blunt the damage done - uh - no !!!</p> <p>a heartbreaking case for repeal of DOMA</p> Mornin’ Teddy and Firedogs,

Teddy, you’ve probably seen it, a diary over at Big Orange detailing the tragic, brutal, and unconscionable treatment of a gay couple as one lay dying.

one can see in the comments – a wake up call for many on the progressive side who think “civil unions”, POA’s, etc. can blunt the damage done – uh – no !!!

a heartbreaking case for repeal of DOMA

]]> By: demi http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902065 demi Tue, 19 May 2009 14:46:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902065 <p>From this article dated Monday, May 18, 2009<br /><a href="http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Whether-You-Like-It-or-Not-Newsom-Says-Hes-Changed.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbclosangeles.com/n.....anged.html</a><br /> California voters eventually overturned same-sex marriages, and the state Supreme Court is expected to rule next week if that constitutional amendment was properly put before voters.</p> From this article dated Monday, May 18, 2009
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/n…..anged.html
California voters eventually overturned same-sex marriages, and the state Supreme Court is expected to rule next week if that constitutional amendment was properly put before voters.

]]> By: frandor55 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902064 frandor55 Tue, 19 May 2009 14:33:47 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902064 <p>Robert “Dopey” Gibbs and Barack “Bait n’ Switch” Obama, they are a good match.</p> Robert “Dopey” Gibbs and Barack “Bait n’ Switch” Obama, they are a good match.

]]> By: hooya67 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902063 hooya67 Tue, 19 May 2009 14:19:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902063 <p>in response to marriage portability. robert gibbs has to check on everything. this is why the bafoon has this positon.</p> in response to marriage portability. robert gibbs has to check on everything. this is why the bafoon has this positon.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902062 eCAHNomics Tue, 19 May 2009 14:08:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/gibbs-punts-on-doma-i-will-have-to-go-check-on-that/#comment-1902062 <p>It’s all a well thought out strategy to keep his powder dry for later. /s</p> It’s all a well thought out strategy to keep his powder dry for later. /s

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