Republican sphincters throughout Washington, D.C. tightened in panic with this latest revelation. The traditional media, the party’s favorite wingman, commenced churning out stories that completely disregarded Dick Cheney’s glaring role in this debacle, and focused instead on whether Nancy Pelosi was telling the American people the truth. In fact, a Fox reporter so much as admitted that their disinformation campaign is working:
“Instead of this debate being about national security, what is and isn’t torture, what the Bush administration should and shouldn’t have allowed and whether anybody in that administration should now be prosecuted, the Republicans are now able to frame this debate as to whether Nancy Pelosi is fit to continue as Speaker. So they are not about to let their foot off the gas in any way, shape, or form.”
At least they’re consistent. As Gregg noted earlier today, Rasmussen, the right wing polling organization (or "Assmussen", as some of us prefer to call it), is performing yeoman service for the Republicans, publishing an incredibly obvious push poll:
The absurdity begins with question one: “How closely have you followed recent new stories about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and CIA Briefings?” Rather then frame this as a story about torture, it’s a story about briefings; rather than present it as a story about the previous administration, it is a story about the current speaker.
It may be clear to you and me what the questions should be, but that certainly didn’t keep the Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza from leaping to conclusions without even contemplating the lopsided nature of the poll’s language. Of course, at the WaPo, it’s not just Cillizza willing to toe the line for Cheney.
For every step the country takes forward out of the moral abyss into which we’ve sunk, the Republicans seem determined to push us back to the days of the Spanish Inquisition. And the media is going to do all it can to help.
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Drown her!
Burn her!
You know, the Speaker doesn’t have to be an elected Representative, and I hear Liz Cheney is between jobs.
They PUT this nose on me!
That would be a pucker factor of 10.
Thanks, WT. The new installment of This Modern World ties into this very nicely.
Swear to Dawg, Ron Christie said last week that if water-boarding constitutes torture, that US military personal were guilty of it because of SERE. The former Naval Officer he was opposing nearly choked.
Of course he said it in his so very Ron Christie sort of way, dripping with authority and condescension – precisely the tactic that makes Democrats shrink from the argument. Dude is a fuck-stick, but he is also nails.
So to recap: training people (who know and trust you) to resist torture in controlled circumstances is… torture.
They will never, ever quit.
Edit: fantastic video!
Her “GARRRRRRRRRRR!” is so much more tinkly than her dad’s.
God, i love Tom Tomorrow.
I. cannot. listen. to Ron. Christie.
Teabag her!!!111!1
(well, they’d want to if it was possible…and then s/he’d enjoy that, so…oh hell, nevermind.)
I was going for the sympathy vote.
hat would be a pucker factor of 10.
and that’s a whole load off real serious assholes. Seems like it’d take an act of doG or something to get at all those.
‘course, you can rule out a few, like Kit Bombed or The Boner, who are perpetually too drunk to give much of a shit about anything….
As soon as we burn Pelosi at the stake we can begin to put this whole sordid and horrifying affair behind us. /s
Oh. OK.
(((newtonusr)))
more sincerely
(((newtonusr)))
:-)
I think it qualifies as a quantum pucker, what with all those assholes having assholes of their own.
want fries with that?
seriously, pelosi has been on the GOP hit list since forever. I’ve listened to my personal gooper complain about her for yearrrrrrs.
That’s the Republic Fascist Party for you. “If you can’t dazzle ‘em with discourse, distract ‘em with bullshit.”
This is why I call them “The GOP/Media Complex”.
True and I really don’t understand it. It is not like she is an actual liberal like Kennedy.
They really only have one course of action., don’t they?
The pity of it is, enough Americans are stupid enough that they can actually make it work.
“If you can’t dazzle ‘em with discourse, distract ‘em with bullshit.”
rut-roh.
*checking voter registration card*
phew….
Certainly the entire MSM from the looks of it.
I submit that a more serious pucker factor would happen on Wall Street if Elizabeth Warren were to replace one Timothy Geithner at the Fed. Just a wild hunch. I could probably hear it from here in beautiful NW Arkansas.
I think that’s just it. She was supposed to be a Republican and she’s not. said gooper ALWAYS brings up her vineyard or whatever it is and the fact that the workers are (scary music sting) not union!!!
oops. that was for Dr. Dick. my reply button is extremely slow to activate…
Perhaps this is the way it always was before she had this business, or perhaps mgmt pays labor enough so that they do not need a union or maybe they should. Who knows? I think it is a case of class betrayal, like FDR.
Burn her and THEN drown her! Evening firepups.
Like cockroaches, they only have 1 gear.
I’m sorry, but I just have to say this. I just don’t see things the way Ron does.
I see the three docs have shown up tonight to examine the puckering.
What, is there a renaissance faire going on somewhere, what with all the calls for trial by ordeal????
Hi tex!
Me too. He was certainly spot on with this one.
You’d have to cross your eyes slightly to see it his way…
I brought the speculum. Anybody remember to bring the lube? Anybody??
lolololololol….
The goopers really get their panties in a twist when they see women (Democrats) in positions of power. They actually despised Hillary more than Bill back when she was First Lady, which is saying a lot because he drove them completely batshit.
Other than Faux, does anyone seriously give a $hit what a republican says?
How many votes will the GOP have when it comes to electing the speaker? Did someone say, “NONE!!!”
Anybody remember to bring the lube? Anybody??
are we still talking about Ron Christie?
I remind dear hubby when he complains of job burnout that he could have been a butt doctor. then what? (no offense to butt doctors, but I couldn’t do it.)
And, he was a little offended when his colonoscopy was voiced over by the good doctor’s conversations about real estate dealings and so forth. Hey, everybody needs a coping mechanism or two.
I think he’s in Santorum land now.
;~P
there goes another keyboard
LOL. so true!!!
Pardon my french, but said gooper has had a h*rd *n for any woman in power, esp political power. He will deny to his dying breath that he’s a misogynistic chauvinist, but geez.
Hey dosido!
Well, you did say he was a Republican….
At least the doctor performing his colonoscopy wasn’t singing that verse from “The Doors” song “The End” regarding “weird scenes inside the gold mine…”
occams hatchet has a post on Nuremberg over at DKos. He ends with:
I was born into the cult. I am a recovering republican. I have issues. I can’t hang with those that haven’t sobered up yet. It threatens my recovery.
Thanks for posting. that is lovely. now for the GOP rebuttal:
Sovereignty!
That’s GOP speak for American Exceptionalism. We’re #1!
snerk! or quoting Micheal Palin and “heeuge tracts of land!”
I am the product of a mixed marriage. For better or worse, my mother’s New Deal Democratic (with a tinge of socialism) won the day. Ultimately the socialism came to the fore as I realized that it was impossible to reform the system as it is inherently flawed.
Don’t you just love it when the goal posts are moved!
Big difference between Republican pols who knowingly practice deception and Republican voters who for the most part are merely gullible.
I am a recovering republican. I have issues. I can’t hang with those that haven’t sobered up yet. It threatens my recovery.
psssst – “Just Say No” – doesn’t work.
Uh, yeah. What I said.
It really is the only trick that they have. Change the subject, change the meanings of the terms, bring out the bright shiny objects, etc.
Evenin’ all ! Teh Goopers were looking for an excuse to jump on Pelosi, in order to stall the Dems’ main work re. Health Care, Green Energy, etc.
What was your moment of epiphany?
The primary GOP tactic is the Politics of Distraction.
The Dems play a pretty mean game of bait and switch, as Obama is currently demonstrating.
Don’t ever forget that Nancy Pelosi saved Social Security from Bush’s predation, which would have indefinitely (ha!) postponed the financial crash, or at least until Bush wasn’t in office anymore. So there are lots of people, many of them GOP paymasters, who’d still like Nancy’s scalp. She won’t ever be immune from their attempts to take her down, but the image of disgraced former Speaker Newt intoning that he’s never seen such a scandal is, frankly, laughable.
Good point! But we voters have such short attention spans and I’ll bet lots of people forget Newt’s demise and think he’s some kind of GOP celebrity cuz his face looks sorta familiar…
IOW it’ll fly on fox.
Never really had one as such, just a slow gradual evolution. Ultimately came to recognize that capitalism, with its inherent concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few is incompatible with democracy.
I have mixed feelings about Nancy but she fares well in any comparison with the Senate Majority Leader.
The corporate media like to torture their captives, they’re softening up the Speaker before they bump things up to judgment and ethics. Poor Nancy, what could she do – stand up and very likely wind up with Hastert as POTUS? That Hobson’s Choice is why impeachment was off the table, if we could read her heart.
A turnip fares well in that comparison.
And he divorces his woman on her sickbed. Yup, real cute and fuzzy.
disgraced former Speaker Newt intoning that he’s never seen such a scandal
what – were there blow-jobs that I missed somewhere?
(don’t answer that)
The fact that so many discredited former GOP leaders are stepping into the fray demonstrates that they have ZERO confidence in the current GOP leaders.
what a damn commmie!
(OK, good point.)
what – were there blow-jobs that I missed somewhere?
Probably and Newt is pissed that he isn’t getting any.
And he divorces his woman on her sickbed.
he probably got a discount from the process-server on that one.
Mine is fairly recent. It helps that the recent Rape and Pillage reports have been so naked and undisguised.
Katrina
Plame Affair
Invasion of Iraq
DOJ firings
Those things combined make for a high voltage cocktail to knock the denial outta anyone with any sanity left.
gtg. niters.
sleep well dosido
Suspect he’d require assistance lifting his gut out of the way…
G’nite, dosido.
Might as well head out my own self. Splendid evening to all.
Nite.
His buddy Rush showed him all the tricks.
Suspect he’d require assistance lifting his gut out of the way…
oh fer chrissakes. and here I was hoping for a nightmare-free sleep…
(shudders)
Night. Think I will join the exiting herd. Take care all.
G’nite firepups. Thanks for the thread WT.
Bye ratfood. Bye Dr D.
i think petrocelli is on to something …
it has been suggested by others elsewhere that obama doesn’t want to get bogged down in investigations so that he can get the healthcare legislation passed.
the republics (sic) are just stupid enough to force the investigations.
personally, i hope they get what they wish for. what good is healthcare if the former bush crew end up in a future administration?
Anyone who is buying this shit is completely divorced from reality. I’m willing to bet the only ones who aren’t seeing the forest for the trees is their pathetic 30%.
Oh, and someone should tell Liz Cheney to STFU. Especially when your father is a treasonous bastard.
I wish the Royal Naval Officer has said
“that makes as much sense as saying ‘consensual sex is rape’, or that a heavyweight fight is ‘assault and battery’, or that a play that shows a married couple means they are married in real life.”
Repugs are digging really deep when they can’t tell the difference between voluntary and involuntary or simulated acts and the real thing?
It’s the San Francisco mystique. Anyone from San Francisco must be gay or a “fag-hag”. That would also include Di-Fi! Of course this doesn’t explain how Dan White got elected, or that vitriolic talk radio lunatic Michael Savage-Weiner (grr!).
Closed-quarters YapFest. 4 minutes max and everybody’s shouting.
It’s not as much a testament to unpreparedness as to the uselessness of the format.
I wish it had been Sestak. That guy would might have hauled off and drilled the chump.
More generally, acceptance of the premise of the question or the segment is the overriding problem.
Did Nancy? Didn’t Nancy? Truth is that anyone succumbing to that premise is already fucked.
My father was a New Deal Democrat-turned-50’s Republican, and my mother was old-school social justice (abolition, etc.) GOP. She was quite socially liberal.
I’m beginning to feel more and more like Dennis everyday.
predictable!
However did you discover the JEB Bush campaign platform?
Nah, let her talk. They want to ‘prove’ their policies worked and that will require some kind of disclosures from the CIA files.
There’s no way the Dems are going to let the Thugs choose their Speaker. Nancy isn’t elected from Bumfuck, AK; she represents San Franciscans who will re-elect her as long as she wants to keep running. The villagers are confusing what they were once able to do in Presidential politics with the electoral politics of the House. They don’t have the power, and it frustrates them mightily.
I can’t wait til Pelosi’s political career goes the way of Schiavo…
Pelosi is nuts. Oh man, its one thing after another. She definitely needs to go, but I am afraid we are stuck with her.