Wonder what changed?

They need a bright shiny object?

Big Dick went on Face the Nation and flapped his pie hole about him and georgie OKin’ torture?

They have become completely detached from any form of reality?

EXACTLY~~

Cheney hates the CIA but loves them now???? are you kidding me???

Actually, the rethugs aren’t contradicting themselves at all. Clearly the wingnuts only find CIA credible and competent when it comes to the vital national security function of inflicting medieval torture on the bodies of our nation’s enemies (or just on random guys they grab off the street). On all other issues, CIA is, by their own admission, incompetent. After all, they utterly failed to find those WMDs we know Saddam was hiding in the trap-door hidey-hole they pulled him out of, and they were never able to prove the Saddam-AQ-Iran grand strategy for world conquest. Clearly, CIA’s mission should be restricted to torture. /s

More grist for the mill. This is from an article in the LA Times by Tom Hamburger and Peter Wallsten, dated 10/20/05. I googled and found a PDF of the article here.

Cheney’s skepticism of the CIA dates to the late 1980s, when the agency failed to predict the Soviet Union’s breakup, according to a source familiar with Cheney’s thinking.

When then-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in August 1990, and the first Bush administration began to ponder its military options, it became clear to Cheney that the intelligence community had a poor understanding of Iraq’s arsenal. Libby, who was working for Cheney, assigned an aide to conduct a secret investigation of Hussein’s biological warfare capabilities
and his likely reactions to a U.S. invasion.

“Libby’s basic view of the world is that the CIA has blown it over and over again,” said the source, who declined to be identified because he had spoken with Libby confidentially. “Libby and Cheney were [angry] that we had not been prepared for the potential in the first Gulf War.”

In the view of the officials who went on to form George W. Bush’s war Cabinet, the CIA continued to blunder through the 1990s. In 1998, for example, the CIA failed to anticipate India’s testing of a nuclear weapon.

After President George W. Bush’s 2001 inauguration, Cheney immediately established the vice president’s office as a second base of foreign policy and intelligence inside the White House, in addition to the National Security Council. Cheney not only received a daily briefing from the CIA, he frequently sat in on the president’s briefing and the “principals’ meetings” held to assess serious
foreign policy and national security issues.

Somewhere. George Tenent is silently thankful no one has mentioned his name.

Cheney is the choreographer for any dancing the Bush era CIA did/does.

707!

the cia right now is ensconsed with his team b

According to The CIA and the Culture of Failure, the Team B approach was launched by Rumsfeld & Cheney during the Ford administration to counter the CIA’s estimates of Soviet military might that they thought was too low. The episode you cite is only one of 3 or 4 Team B exercises, and not the earliest one.

You can read it at amazon here. The second result is the discussion of the episode I mentioned.

In re CIA, where’s the no honor among thieves when you most expect it?

If Cheney is ever in the dock over the myriad transgressions to his credit, I want to hear about the undisclosed locations he fled to after the 9/11 thingy.

Hi eCahn. Thanks…I’ll look for the book and read the whole thing. We agree on the point that Cheney and the CIA aren’t exactly truthtellers, I take it? I just used the examples in the article I found in my rush to slam that relationship in the vein of BT’s post.

As I commented on an earlier thread today, I look forward to my personal gooper bringing on the credibility of the CIA vs. the evil Speaker. Because at our last discussion, he was totally tearing down the CIA’s intelligence on Iraq and…yes…totally holding up all of Cheney’s talking points about democracy in Iraq and all that BS.

And geez, the logic of Rove calling Pelosi an accomplice to torture and thereby condemning his own team for us by doing that. It’s so bizarre.

gtg pups. keep the heat on in the right places! :]

Clearly, CIA’s mission should be restricted to torture.

Add to that potuscide. November 22, 1963.

Yep, your general point is right. What I find interesting is how far back in history the W cabal go, and how consistent their actions have been, and how long it took me to find it all out. Why was no one pointing it out at the time?

And all that makes me think we should be doing the same work on the current neer-do-wells.

“This issue goes to the heart of the American people’s ability to trust the CIA,”

LOL!

When EVER was THAT the case????
i dunno bout you, but i have NEVER trusted the CIA.
that’s just hysterically funny to meeeeee.

Herbet Walker Bush goes back to WWII his father Nazi connection with the industrialist and bigbank is long known, His relationship with (CIA Director Casey?) His own years with the CIA before VEEP…Carlyle Group who Mario Coumo just busted for $20 million fine…Blackwater and the KLM and other war contractors and manufacuters of planes bombs (cluster, butterfly anti personell and phosphorus) and drones…DiFi’s husband’s war profiteering.

Follow the contracts by the MIC into K street lobbies and congressional votes…The Collusion is simply Calosal…enter Wall Street Hedge funds, Investment banks…the change to SEC to non oversight…Sarbanes-oxley changed to continue the vast Deregulation scam that Enron used to rippoff California for $35 Billion….The S&L scandal Silverado S&L…created the Resolution Trust taking the toxic mortgages off of them onto the taxpayers bill as in the present “Bailout”. The BUSH crime familiy is pervasive in its roots in the republican crony power structure, McInsane enabled the monopolies in Main Strea Media TV and Radio mogols…Romney huge holdings in radio. Only collusion of the magnituse that created the vertical trust that caused the “anti trust laws” that have been systematically defanged by the power elite in the Wingnut Party that has a 20% approval rating.
END of RANT

Just heard on NPR that Panetta issued a statement saying CIA did all the right things? No linky

I was referring the the D neer-do-wells, as they are now in power. Like the superfund polluter lawyer Obama just hired to run the DOJ Environment Division.

Panetta

yeah, wtf is up with Panetta?

and CA Supreme Court rules FOR gay marriage rights!!!

Yes plenty of crime to spread around the National political culture that has to the extreme right in policy with a right center PR message.Bottom line move capital away from the work force into the elite institutions.
The tools are the means to the end away from social capitalism to pure capitalism.
Hand slaps in order then lay low for a while.

reader @ 22:

I was mislead about the CA ruling. I am so sorry. I apologize. I won’t do THAT again.

Gregg Levine upstairs!
Obama Announces New! Improved! Military Commissions

A Million Little Pieces A Million Little Lies
The CIA has a public record that goes back to before its creation.
One of those Million Little Pieces, Million Little Lies is Candy Jones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_Jones

Didn’t JFK say before he was snuffed he would tear them into a Million Little Pieces and scatter them into the wind?

Always remember the US is not and never has been “streets lined with gold” mythology that all the “preachers” rant about 24/7. The true history of the US parallels the treatment and conditions of all First Nations.

Are you still proud or just programmed?

“What’s happening in my country is also happening in your country…. You don’t even know it, but you’re the Indians of the 21st Century, and that’s very sad.”

~ Russell Means, Indian Activist and Facilitator of the newly created Independent Republic of Lakota

Attackerman on the front page now!
Wilkerson Explains His J’Accuse Against Cheney