Debating well-trained liars can be fun, if frustrating. Last night, I took on Rick Scott, the notorious former-CEO of Columbia/HCA who is now leading the right-wing opposition to health care reform. Audio is here. In 2004, it was oily conman John O’Neill and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a leaky canoe full of liars who attacked Senator John Kerry’s military record.
CRC Public Relations represented O’Neill and they’re representing Scott, whose hospital company paid the largest fine in U.S. history, $1.7 billion, for defrauding American taxpayers out of hundreds of millions in phony expenses. Seems they were reimbursed for care they never provided patients. CRC’s media training is easy to summarize: Lie, Repeat Lie, Ignore truthful attacks from opponents, Lie A Little More.
CRC also represents Golden Rule Insurance Companies, an early advocate of health savings accounts, a concept that manages to find its way into Scott’s dark attack on health care reform. Back in the 90s Senator Ted Kennedy had this to say about Golden Rule:
Of course, it is true that Golden Rule Insurance Co. has been drummed out of the State of Vermont because of the way that they have exploited consumers. And it is true that Golden Rule Insurance Co., the principal company that would benefit from medical savings insurance companies, refuses to share market information with even the American Academy of Actuaries so that we could get a real reflection as to what has been the experience of that company. When asked by the American Academy to share their data, Golden Rule said, absolutely no, we will not do that, even though they have experienced extraordinary profits in this area.
Now Rick Scott is running a bunch of store-front clinics, which helps explain why he’s against health care reform. If Americans could get real health care and see real doctors, his clinics would lose their market.
One of Scott’s new enterprises is financially connected to FoxNetworks.
Scott now resides in Naples, Fla. In addition to his newfound public policy voice for Conservatives for Patient Rights, he is the founder of America’s Health Network (now a subsidiary of Fox Networks) and the chairman/CEO of Solantic, a chain of 23 freestanding urgent care facilities.
I was asked to debate Scott on Dallas’ KRLD radio last night. The host is Scott Braddock, who’s unique to news/talk radio. Braddock’s quick on his feet. He’s provocative, but fair.
I jumped Rick Scott for the obvious. He’s a crook. He helped cause the health care crisis. Turning to him for a solution would be like turning to Bernie Madoff to solve the economic crisis. Scott claims a public health care plan will ration care and put bureaucrats in charge of our health care. I said the obvious, today it’s un-accountable, un-elected, invisible private insurance accountants and pencil-pushers who are in charge of our lives, our health.
Here are some of his lies. When I said that he was just protecting his fake health clinics, he dodged it and attacked public health plans like Medicaid and Medicare.
The problem with a public plan is what it will do is eliminate all the private insurance companies. What we’ll do as taxpayers, is the government will under-price the product, they’ll over-promise and run off all the private insurance, then, then, when it’s too expensive, they’ll do exactly what’s happened in Canada, exactly what’s happened in the U.K, they’ll ration care. They say gosh, we’re not going to be able to cover that. And by the way, without any fanfare, we already passed a federal coordinating council for comparative effectiveness which is going to determine, which is going to tell us, alright, how health care should be taken care of by our doctors. These decisions have to be made by doctors and their patients. That same organization in the U.K. puts a value on your life.
And,
We have doctors every day opting out of Medicare…How many doctors won’t accept Medicaid, very few…Those plans have not worked.
I think something like 97 percent of doctors accept Medicare patients. But why would Scott let a few facts get in his way.
Scott was forced out of Columbia/HCA after the massive fraud was uncovered. Now he brags that his efforts lowered costs and improved care.
Let’s just go through it. I started health care in 1988 and health care inflation was 16 percent. I left in ‘97 it was less than 1 percent. Gosh, costs came down…If you look at everything you care about as a patient, which is the issues we ought to be caring about, what is good for patients, lower costs, better outcomes better patient satisfaction. So, if you want to focus on, just say that everybody who might be against what the Democrats is bad, what we want, what everybody in this country wants, is lower costs, better care.
And sure enough, Scott said there was no health care crisis, and he quietly pitched the old private health account idea as a solution to the crisis he said doesn’t exist:
If they can’t get in the [doctor or hospital] door in this country it’s because one, the government reduces payments so doctors don’t want to take Medicare patients or Medicaid patients and there’s no, there’s not enough incentive to watch costs right now. Now as individuals become more accountable for their own health care that happens. But I don’t hear stories that, that we don’t give somebody an approved drug in this country if you have an insurance plan, you have an approved drug that we don’t give it to people, I don’t hear stories like that.
I went after John O’Neill and the Swift Boaters in 2004 because the Kerry campaign wasn’t doing enough. With MoveOn’s help, I counter-attacked with Texans for Truth, focusing on how George W. Bush had gone AWOL from the military in the 70s. The White House counter-counter attack on Dan Rather and CBS neutralized the story.
Rick Scott’s swift-boating of health care reform is drawing a much more widespread response from progressives. And it needs to. We shouldn’t forget that paid advertising works, and Scott is spending millions on advertising. We know him as a crook and a liar. It may seem like a gift to have Scott leading the charge against reform. Many believed John O’Neill and the swift boaters were ridiculous. But their attacks worked. And so will these if we take it for granted that Americans will automatically recognize a thief and a liar when they see one. We have to tell them.
Related posts:
- Rick Scott “Crows” That Delay Will Kill Public Option
- Health Industry Mogul Rick Scott Still Can’t Explain Billions in Fraud
- Rick Scott Determined to Strike in US
- Mitt Romney’s Idea of Health Care Reform: Giving Big Insurance Whatever They Want
- Blue Dog Dan Boren Uses RNC Talking Points to Attack Democrats on Health Care Reform





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$1.7B would have gone a long way for some nurses, medical technicians and providing health care services for a large swath of people.
Of course, since Scott has already shown himself as a crook, I have some level of confidence that he will be in trouble again. After all, if he is running store front clinics, he surely has to be sending some claims to Medicare and Medicaid or other government entities.
Store front clinics that serve the poor?
Next thing you know we’ll replace the U.S. Coast Guard with Somali pirates…
That is, sadly, the idea, I think. Using the word “serving” rather loosely.
I saw “Sicko ” I don’t remember rationed care, I don’t remember any restrictions on the Doctors you could see.
What I do Remember was it was free for everybody an d that they lived longer than us.
It is obvious that the golden rule that Scott abides by is he who has the gold rules.
Now Rick Scott is running a bunch of store-front clinics
a.k.a. Doc-in-the-Box
Double evil points for screwing the poor over the clinics serve them probably because they are less likely to sue.
I wonder if there have been complaints about his clinics? I bet they make everyone sign a do not sue us form before getting treatment.
Obama should investigate this guy.
He actually once bragged that he wanted to do for health care what McDonald’s had done for food. I’m not making that up.
HSAs actually make some sense if you’re relatively healthy and have an income stream that allows the pre-tax contributions. Otherwise it’s just plain old cash out of pocket until you reach your (very high) deductible.
Now that spells QUALITY!
Deep fryers, MRIs, what’s the difference.
Here is a letter that will be published in our local newspaper (San Antonio Express News). This is in response to the CSpan video showing the Senator’s mocking the Single Payer Supporters. Keep working for the “single payer plan” — we will win if we keep the netroots jabbering about it:
subject: Letter to the Editor
This is timely as a forum I belong to has just finished a discussion of
the insurance plan in Canada and several members are from Canada. They
love their coverage and are terrified of traveling to the US in case
they have to go to a hospital here. There is a swell of support for a
single payer plan and those who won’t listen risk their career as a
politician. If you don’t listen to your constituents, you won’t be
reelected. To mock your public as you do in the hearing is just plain
insulting. God help you.
Phyllis Culbert
http://www.webmd.com/news/2008…..new-record
Here are the 2006 life expectancy figures for each of those groups:
* White women: 81 years
* African-American women: 76.9 years
* White men: 76 years
* African-American men: 70 years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D….._Venezuela
[edit] Life expectancy at birth
Group Longevity
(years)
Total population: 74.54
Females: 77.81
Males: 71.49
Hey Glen interesting Stats here Venezuela under Hugo with National Healthcare the Women outlive White men in America.
The men out live African Americans in America.
And we spend just how much on Healthcare?
Hugo trades oil to Cuba for Doctors but still I think we spend more per person on healthcare.
Ask him to read “Fast Food Nation”.
I need a McRespirator. Stat.
Nice job on the interview Glenn. I was glad to hear the moderator point out how health care is already being rationed. That’s an example of taking Republican framing and adding to it to change the meaning of their frame.
- Tom
Exactly right on the framing, Tom. It also has the power of truth.
Very good point the system favors the rich tax credits only help those who have enough money to afford it in the first place.
Emergency room care is free for the poor but expensive everyone pays for that.
By letting the poor get sick and not treating them early and cheaply, by waiting for the poor to get emergency room sick we increase the cost of medical care.
By restricting what Doctors and Hospitals charge which I think might be in the Obama plan we take away their ability to charge the people who can afford it to pay for treatment of the poor.
you want sutures with that?
Are medical emergencies still the number one cause of bankruptcy in America?
Are they still the 1# reason people fall behind on their home loans?
How many Home loans failed because of Medical emergencies?
How many of those were Subprime, Prime, Acorn loans?
Also the hedge funds bought those loans from the banks at $36 of credit to every $1 dollar of assets the hedgefunds had why can’t sick people get loans like that to pay for medical care?
No. Open-faced.
suture self. :~)
Just when will the big TV networks show the Film “Sicko” on National Tv?
Or do the advertisers trump the public on the public air waves?
A threat to revoke a broadcast license for ot serving the public good might work.
As justification well…just how often does Fox News lie in any given week?
I wonder if when this news gets out if retirees in Florida will start moving to Venezuela?
“I’ll have the medium #4 combo, please: blood test, hip replacement, and EKG.”
I walked right into that!!
About twice as much as most countries
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepa…..2.web.html
you had me in stitches.
And yet we third world countries like Venezuela are having their women live longer than our men?
Their men live longer than African American men?
America can’t afford private care any longer. Not if you want to live a long life.
I wonder if we had national healthcare 10 years ago if Obama would be President today?
Old White men were Jon McCain’s strongest supporters so if Old white men lived as long as they do in France would there have been enough votes to make McCain President?
Is the GOP by opposing National Healthcare killing their own voters?
Click the pics at the top for videos from SiCKO
http://sacramentofordemocracy……view/28273
Jane is upstairs!
Dick Cheney Doing His Part For the Employee Free Choice Act
It’s tragic and unforgivable.
Glenn, thanks for taking on that creep. After the massive fraud at HCA/Columbia, I don’t even comprehend why he is walking the street, rather than sitting in prison with Jeff Skillings.