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	<title>Comments on: Maliki vs. Odierno: Who Blinks First?</title>
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		<title>By: annamissed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/09/maliki-vs-odierno-who-blinks-first/#comment-1896133</link>
		<dc:creator>annamissed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 02:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought that’s how things are suppose to work these days, with the financial industry running the economy, the aristocracy running the media, the church running the judicial, whats so surprising about the generals running foreign policy? How could the politicians ever find enough time to    write policy, or even read or contemplate policy, let alone fire a general who is &lt;strong&gt;making&lt;/strong&gt; policy. How could they ever find  time to raise the money required to stay in office, if they had to actually do something else?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(regretfully, am)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that’s how things are suppose to work these days, with the financial industry running the economy, the aristocracy running the media, the church running the judicial, whats so surprising about the generals running foreign policy? How could the politicians ever find enough time to    write policy, or even read or contemplate policy, let alone fire a general who is <strong>making</strong> policy. How could they ever find  time to raise the money required to stay in office, if they had to actually do something else?</p>
<p>(regretfully, am)</p>
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		<title>By: kaylaspop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/09/maliki-vs-odierno-who-blinks-first/#comment-1896086</link>
		<dc:creator>kaylaspop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 00:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let’s see what Betray-us has to say on all the Sun. blabfests tomorrow.  Maybe that will answer some of these questions but I won;t hold my breath.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s see what Betray-us has to say on all the Sun. blabfests tomorrow.  Maybe that will answer some of these questions but I won;t hold my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: TarheelDem</title>
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		<dc:creator>TarheelDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 21:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK I reread it.  “If he breaks the SOFA and is left in command…”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep.  But there might be a day or two between when he breaks it and when he is relieved of command.  That will be the first shitstorm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then if in response to that, he is left in command, that is the second one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But if he is relieved, there will be a shitstorm from a different direction.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I reread it.  “If he breaks the SOFA and is left in command…”</p>
<p>Yep.  But there might be a day or two between when he breaks it and when he is relieved of command.  That will be the first shitstorm.</p>
<p>Then if in response to that, he is left in command, that is the second one.</p>
<p>But if he is relieved, there will be a shitstorm from a different direction.</p>
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		<title>By: TarheelDem</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/09/maliki-vs-odierno-who-blinks-first/#comment-1895991</link>
		<dc:creator>TarheelDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 21:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Exactly how is it not possible for him to be a rogue general?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And why must we automatically assume that he is carrying out orders that come from the President?  He carries out orders that come from Petraeus.  In one sense, he doesn’t ask where Petraeus’s orders are coming from unless he get explicitly instructed from Washington, which bypasses Petraeus and makes him let his pique be known to the press and the minority party on the Armed Services committees.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bureaucrats and generals routinely try to nullify those parts of their tasking that they don’t like.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly how is it not possible for him to be a rogue general?</p>
<p>And why must we automatically assume that he is carrying out orders that come from the President?  He carries out orders that come from Petraeus.  In one sense, he doesn’t ask where Petraeus’s orders are coming from unless he get explicitly instructed from Washington, which bypasses Petraeus and makes him let his pique be known to the press and the minority party on the Armed Services committees.</p>
<p>Bureaucrats and generals routinely try to nullify those parts of their tasking that they don’t like.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/09/maliki-vs-odierno-who-blinks-first/#comment-1895990</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 21:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-benjamin-page-class-war-what-americans-really-think-about-economic-inequality/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Book Salon upstairs&lt;/a&gt; with Benjamin Page’s &lt;i&gt;Class War? What Americans Really Think About Economic Inequality&lt;/i&gt; hosted by David Watkins&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-benjamin-page-class-war-what-americans-really-think-about-economic-inequality/" rel="nofollow">Book Salon upstairs</a> with Benjamin Page’s <i>Class War? What Americans Really Think About Economic Inequality</i> hosted by David Watkins</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;he may have just been trying to deflect the question.   he can truthfully say he doesn’t know the &lt;em&gt;precise&lt;/em&gt; number.  somebody may have just been blown up. One less.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he may have just been trying to deflect the question.   he can truthfully say he doesn’t know the <em>precise</em> number.  somebody may have just been blown up. One less.</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/09/maliki-vs-odierno-who-blinks-first/#comment-1895983</link>
		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The oliogarch gated community is getting more and more aggressive. And we as middle/lower classes in this country are getting a taste of the narcissistic and deadly steam rolling of the US patriarchy using our money and in our name that they have been doing elsewhere. Enmeshment with the U.S. is a dangerous deal. Exploitation by corporatists rewarding government administration is the amoral game.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am thinking US tossing the Geneva Convention with torture, etc., is a supportive move to our international crony, Israel, since Israel has tossed out Geneva Convention long ago in terms of Gaza. Talk about being on the same regressive and repressive page!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oliogarch gated community is getting more and more aggressive. And we as middle/lower classes in this country are getting a taste of the narcissistic and deadly steam rolling of the US patriarchy using our money and in our name that they have been doing elsewhere. Enmeshment with the U.S. is a dangerous deal. Exploitation by corporatists rewarding government administration is the amoral game.</p>
<p>I am thinking US tossing the Geneva Convention with torture, etc., is a supportive move to our international crony, Israel, since Israel has tossed out Geneva Convention long ago in terms of Gaza. Talk about being on the same regressive and repressive page!</p>
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		<title>By: Siun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That certainly gave me pause … and must feel awful for the folks serving there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That certainly gave me pause … and must feel awful for the folks serving there.</p>
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		<title>By: shootthatarrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>shootthatarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Iraq is about to find out getting WashingtonDC,the Pentagon and any number of corporatists who represent American energy interests in ME who now consider Iraq largely to be an American Colony/Garrison Outpost to honor SOFA will be extremely unlikely.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;G.W.Bush was quite correct when he claimed after flying out to the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln,an American attack aircraft carrier,that this was a ‘Mission Accomplished’ for the Americans in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which mission? Getting WashingtonDC,the Pentagon and lots of Americans into Iraq,taking out Saddam’s regime,giving Iraq a big dose of Shock Doctrine and essentially running up the Stars and Stripes over Iraqi oil fields for all practical purposes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That massive American Embassy in Baghdad,several American super-bases across Iraq and USAF full control of Iraqi airspace for years to come all point to what was “accomplished” in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gen.Odierno is the current front man for American Occupation of Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s see if President Obama fires him for being off mission or backs him up and tells Iraqis to take what they are given by Americans,like it and expect more to come.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Israel surely wants an American Overlordship in Iraq and WashingtonDC surely wants sway in and over Iraq to menace Iran as desired or sought.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;President Obama is free to do whatever he thinks will move forward what was started in Iraq by WashingtonDC in March 2003 until a few months ahead of 2012 election when he can whiplash Americans politically in bid to get four more years in WH. This Democrat run WH is as much for being in Iraq as the recently departed GOP run WH. Only difference being Democrats think they can do it in smarter policy ways.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq is about to find out getting WashingtonDC,the Pentagon and any number of corporatists who represent American energy interests in ME who now consider Iraq largely to be an American Colony/Garrison Outpost to honor SOFA will be extremely unlikely.</p>
<p>G.W.Bush was quite correct when he claimed after flying out to the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln,an American attack aircraft carrier,that this was a ‘Mission Accomplished’ for the Americans in Iraq.</p>
<p>Which mission? Getting WashingtonDC,the Pentagon and lots of Americans into Iraq,taking out Saddam’s regime,giving Iraq a big dose of Shock Doctrine and essentially running up the Stars and Stripes over Iraqi oil fields for all practical purposes.</p>
<p>That massive American Embassy in Baghdad,several American super-bases across Iraq and USAF full control of Iraqi airspace for years to come all point to what was “accomplished” in Iraq.</p>
<p>Gen.Odierno is the current front man for American Occupation of Iraq.</p>
<p>Let’s see if President Obama fires him for being off mission or backs him up and tells Iraqis to take what they are given by Americans,like it and expect more to come.</p>
<p>Israel surely wants an American Overlordship in Iraq and WashingtonDC surely wants sway in and over Iraq to menace Iran as desired or sought.</p>
<p>President Obama is free to do whatever he thinks will move forward what was started in Iraq by WashingtonDC in March 2003 until a few months ahead of 2012 election when he can whiplash Americans politically in bid to get four more years in WH. This Democrat run WH is as much for being in Iraq as the recently departed GOP run WH. Only difference being Democrats think they can do it in smarter policy ways.</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;:) survival, screw principle. And if our constituents are screwy, follow them (and our corporate extortionists) like lemmings over the cliff and take America and the constitution with it!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:) survival, screw principle. And if our constituents are screwy, follow them (and our corporate extortionists) like lemmings over the cliff and take America and the constitution with it!</p>
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