On Wednesday, May 6, Marcy Wheeler and I interviewed Chris Dodd in his offices on Capitol Hill. Dodd was very forthcoming about a number of issues, including the AIG bonuses, the influence of lobbyists on the defeat of cramdown, credit card interest rate caps, and a new Pecora Commission.
One of the things we discussed was the refusal of Fed Vice Chair Donald Kohn to answer Alan Grayson’s question in a House Financial Services hearing when the Florida Representative asked him to name the banks that the Fed was lending to. Bloomberg estimates that the US government and the Fed have now lent, spent or committed $12.8 trillion dollars in financial rescue, up 73% from November, when they estimated the amount to be $7.4 trillion.
The Senate recently passed the Grassley Amendment, which gives the General Accounting Office (GAO) limited authority to look into specific loans made to BofA, JP Morgan, Bear Sterns, AIG and the Maiden Lane facilities.
Dodd expressed concern that the Fed needs to stay independent of the government in order to set monetary policy independent of political pressure. The GAO is Congress’s auditing arm, and under law they have been restricted from auditing the Fed. But as Grassley says, things have changed:
Perhaps those restrictions could be defended back when the Federal Reserve focused only on monetary policy. However, today it is routinely exercising extraordinary emergency powers to subsidize financial firms far above the levels Congress is willing to authorize through legislation. The Federal Reserve is taking on more and more risk in complicated and unprecedented ways. That risk is ultimately borne by the American taxpayer.
As Chairman of the Banking Committee, Dodd has been one of the most aggressive members of Congress in pushing for oversight of the government’s rescue of the banking system. He was critical of the loan made by the New York Fed to JP Morgan to purchase Bear Sterns in March of 2008, at the same time JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon sat on the NY Fed’s board. Timothy Geithner was head of the New York Fed at the time.
Dodd also clashed with the Treasury when his amendment limiting executive bonuses for TARP recipients passed the Senate, but was scaled back at the Treasury’s request before the stimulus bill finally passed. Senior Administration officials, press secretary Robert Gibbs and the Treasury later suggested Dodd was to blame for the language being changed when the AIG bonuses were paid out, but the Treasury ultimately recanted and admitted its role in the process.
I asked Dodd if he was bitter about that, and he said he felt like he’d been "thrown under the bus." We’ll have more video on that later today.
In this clip, I ask Dodd if he’ll request that the Fed provide the names of the banks it has been lending to. He agreed. It will be an important step in the transparency process if the Fed will provide to Congress the names of these banks.
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(((Jane and Marcy))) you rock!!!
Jane! Marcy!
Excellent work. Thanks.
Jane and Marcy both rock, and Senator Dodd rocks.
excellent vid, with the exception that Dodd doesn’t seem to know what the hell he’s talking about. Doesn’t seem overly concerned about that, either.
Maybe he does better in the upcoming videos?
independant is fine, private is not, there is no reason we should be under the thumb of private companies producing our monetary system
there is no problem printing having government mint coin we will have no problem printing our paper as well
When most people ask about that, they’re asking about the AIG counterparties. That’s what he thought I meant. I think it was an understandable mistake.
thanks Jane.
Even reading Jane’s (and Glenn’s) reporting from the time, it’s unclear to me whether Dodd was responsible for backing off the executive bonus issue. Did he ultimately give in to administration pressure (in which case he’s responsible) or was the language changed in conference, with Dodd continuing to object (in which case he’s not responsible)? Treasury originally downplayed their role in asking for changes, which may make Treasury guilty, but it doesn’t make Dodd innocent.
Boy, break major news around this joint, it gets awfully quiet.
So what’s Michelle Bachman up to?
“C” none of the above.
Dodd got the amendment passed in the Senate but in conference was worried he’d lose it entirely if he didn’t compromise. He’s not the sole arbiter of laws, and he wasn’t even on the conference committee, so he didn’t have any official role in what happened.
So instead of being retroactive, the amendment only applied to bonuses signed after the law was passed. Would people have preferred that there was no such law at all? Because that was the position he felt he was in, either agree to a compromise or lose it entirely.
The Administration has a bit more sway in how these things ultimately play out, and if they insisted that it come out altogether, I’m quite sure that’s what would have happened.
U R way, way 2 EZ on dodd. dodd has a way of making ethical stands that never amount to anything … it is what he specializes in. for instance on the bonus provision that he eventually caved on, that bill passed the senate 100-0!!!!!! b4 it went to committee. Now I ask U, when the hell has the senate ever voted that vehemently against big business … or ever against big business that ever amounted to anything meaningfully against corporate interests? NEVER!!!!!! They all knew the fix was in and the bill would be changed in committee so therefore it was just a posture vote or else they would not have voted 100-0. So, we R supposed 2 believe that dodd didn’t know what was going 2 happen in committee? That he went home that day thinking wow, good golly, how fortunate am I, the senate just passed my bill 100-0 on bonuses not being paid out to some of their biggest campaign contributors? And then somehow the bill just happened to get changed in committee … imagine his disappointment and shock!!!!
It is bullshit just like almost every other goddamn thing that dodd does and 4 dodd 2 act like he really believed that the bonus provision that would work retroactively for companies that had received tarp funds would not be taken out on committee and not amount to nothing more than a soundbite and a headline for him … a helpful one at that since he is in for a battle for his seat and that is mainly due to his coziness to financial interests … just shows u how complicit he is in the whole corrupted process.
dodd is a dc whore … nothing more.
Z
Tend to disagree. Dodd does know how to play the smoke and mirrors game so that the unprecedented looting can continue.
Unemployment now at 8.9%
Dodd=scapegoat.
I think we need to cover his back since everyone seems to blame him yet it was Treasury that pressured the conference committee of which he was not a member.
Thanks for all you do Marcy and Jane etal. Let’s use Dodd’s pariah status to cement our friendship and Access to Dodd.
To Jane @ 9: mmpfgrffmpf!!
Bravo Jane & Marcy and the good Senator Dodd!
Spot on, zeabow.
The corruption inside the beltway is pervasive. There is NO fix from within.
as the person who was credited with getting the tarp bill passed last fall – absent mechanisms of accountability, controls on executive compensation, etc – all i can say is that if dodd is aggressive then i have to add aggressive to the list of words i thought i understood but now find i don’t.
has anyone asked dodd why he didn’t vote for bernie sanders’ amendment to the tarp bill (for a temporary tax on high income earners to help pay for the bailout)?
thanks to jane and marcy for asking dodd some good questions. watching his banking hearings on the crisis has been a big disappointment.
Thanks, Jane. Well done.
Dodd has been one of the villains and enablers of the awful policies of Paulson and Geithner.
I would ask him how he thinks that, absent nationalization (what happens normally when banks become insolvent), they are ever going to remove the crap assets from their books. (And buying into Geithner’s fantasyland PPIP and TALF would not be an acceptable answer.)
I would ask him where he is on the re-imposition of Glass-Steagall.
I would ask him why the ratings agencies aren’t being restructured, why their ratings are still being used, and why it isn’t part of a company’s fiduciary responsibility to do its own ratings.
I would ask him why there has not been a big push to investigate the massive fraud that has occurred. (Yes, the FBI has some investigations but they are woefully understaffed relative to the mammoth size of the problem.) Why bank CEOs are not being investigated for control fraud.
I would ask how the Fed can engage in fiscal policy in direct violation of the Constitution and Congress’ budgeting authority (and duty).
I would ask him why anyone should believe bogus confidence measures like the “stress tests”.
I would ask him how it is that trillions have already gone to banks yet we have not seen a return to normal (i.e. pre-bubble type) lending, why the banks are sticking it to their credit card clients, why they have used the money to finance mega-mergers and re-initiate their old speculative ways (oil is trading at $57.46 this morning. Given the state of world economy it should be in the $30-$35 range.)
I would ask him about regulating CDSs as insurance and outlawing naked CDSs entirely.
I would ask why only joke efforts have been made to help homeowners and how he thinks the economy will turn around when we are looking at millions of new foreclosures as a result.
I would ask him why he has been running his hearings like a bunch of soggy oatmeal instead of a real Pecora commission.
I would ask him how he thinks a stimulus that maybe, maybe might create 3.5 million jobs is supposed to make up for a job creation shortfall that looks like it will be in the 12-14 million range by the end of 2010.
I would finally ask him what he thinks the future of securitization is seeing as it is what brought the world’s economy and our own to their knees.
Those are a few of the things I would ask him. Needless to say there are many more.
Christopher Dodd is a scum bag.
You have no idea how hopeful seeing that video makes me. Not that anything useful will come of Dodd’s purported concerns (as though the independence of the Fed is such in reality, it is pressed upon by politics, even if simply the politics of its directors).
What made me so hopeful was seeing you and Marcy conducting an interview with one of the Senate’s more powerful members, and doing so with the kind of poignancy and zeal that would represent the interests and cynicism of any rightfully concerned citizen. It’s a landmark, a point in time where “citizen media” (the blogosphere) cracked the shell of the establishment status quo. You found a way in. Thank you.
In response to frederic@21:
(deleted by moderator-personal attacks and name calling are frowned upon at this site) I’m sure he’d take that as a compliment.
Dodd was the one who stood up to oppose FISA last year, which even Obama supported, giving the telecomm companies immunity for their lawbreaking.
What have YOU stood up for recently? I mean, aside from standing up for the same wealthy oppressors who are working hard to keep you in the gutter?
Thank you Jane and Marcy for asking good questions!
Sorry, but ’troll’ was what I saw when I Googled ”site:firedoglake.com frederic”. It’s a description of a behavior of being deliberately inflammatory without any actual desire for discussion. Next time I’ll use that phrase if it’s deemed more acceptable.
emptywheel is upstairs!
Breaking News!! CIA Manipulating Briefing Process!!
Class act albatross. You are the typical intolerant liberal who resorts to attacks and name calling to anyone who disagrees with your slanted world view. Everything the government “does” for a person comes with strings. I stand up to socialists like yourselves. I am your libs biggest enemy… A middle class worker who didn’t drink the kool-aid and am fully aware of the BS you, the administration and the media spew out on a day to day basis. And I will inform and politely challenge people when they start rehearsing the days talking points and 99% of the time they do not have a response. I can not begin to tell you about all the people whose eyes I have opened. I do not need any nor do I want any help from the government. The less government there is the better of I am and every other individual. The only reason the obama won is because of all the “useful idiots” in this country who can tell you all of the contestants that are left on American Idol but could not tell you the name of our secretary of state or vice president. They are a bunch of lemmings…
SECONDED!!!!!!!!
Hi frederic. Welcome to this place.
I take you at your word.
Question: Did Alabama, or California, or Florida, or Texas build the interstate highway system? Or fight World War 2? Or create and enforce Civil Rights?
There are big things to do, and no state or region can do them. So just what would your world-view proscribe for the unique and enormous challenges mentioned above? And the worlds largest economy has now reached the brink of collapse – what would you proscribe for that? Tax cuts?
In response to frederic @ 27:
Thank you for helping make my point for me. Much obliged.
I’m new here… I’m a Nutmegger who stopped by once before to see Himes address questions on central banking. I’m a regular in the CT blogosphere though.
Coupla things:
First, I love you Jane!!! I live in CT and just last Sunday I did a front page post on CTLocalPolitics (you may recall it from the Lieberman / Lamont campaign??) All the Connecticut MSM now read CTLP, so I know my message got thru to Dodd. As well, I emailed him two weeks ago about S604 and spoke with a senior staffer of his last summer… asking for more transparency… to which the staffer made an apparently unusually candid comment about me not being the only one asking for more transparency… anyway, my point is that Dodd isn’t ignorent to our questions.
Second… you probably know that Goldman Sachs (and others) used AIG as a front man. Please continue to press Senator Dodd on the entire $10 trillion (or $12.8 trillon), including not only the initial beneficiary… but also the following level of recipient (counterparty in the Senator’s terms)
Last, Durbin admitted the truth about who owns the Congress. And Chris Dodd (and Barney Frank) is supposed to be the cop who gets to the bottom of it.
Jane & Marcy… also keep in mind that on April 2 there were two “Sense of the Senate” votes.
One passed 96-2, the other passed 59-39.
The first bill requested that the Fed disclose dollar figures and other data related to the $2 trillion printed, but the vote did not request names of banks.
The second bill was the same as the first, but requested that the Fed also disclose the names of banks.
Dodd voted for the first bill, but not the second. So he knew exactly what you were saying. He’s already on the record opposing the disclosure of names. So if he does come thru for you (us!), it’s worthwhile to keep in mind that his initial action was to oppose the disclosure of the names.
It speaks to his true motivations, IMO.
Sorry… don’t have links to the bills. But I’ve seen them both online.
I think both votes were brought forward by someone who does care about transparency – Bernie Sanders.