Comments on: Over $42 Million Paid to Lobbyists Working to Defeat “Cramdown” in 1Q 2009 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:46:46 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893670 MarkH Wed, 06 May 2009 01:46:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893670 <p>Does Hatch not realize we’re paying for their care already? ER care at that.</p> <p>It’s one of the reasons our overall system is so so expensive.</p> Does Hatch not realize we’re paying for their care already? ER care at that.

It’s one of the reasons our overall system is so so expensive.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893668 MarkH Wed, 06 May 2009 01:45:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893668 <p>Adding more people brings in more money and makes the overall system MORE expensive. That doesn’t solve the problem. It makes things worse.</p> <p>How do they propose getting the insurance companies to bring down the rates so the overall cost to the country is less?</p> Adding more people brings in more money and makes the overall system MORE expensive. That doesn’t solve the problem. It makes things worse.

How do they propose getting the insurance companies to bring down the rates so the overall cost to the country is less?

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893665 MarkH Wed, 06 May 2009 01:38:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893665 <p>Exactly how does a single-payer plan (for whatever size group of consumers) relate to how much you pay health care providers?</p> Exactly how does a single-payer plan (for whatever size group of consumers) relate to how much you pay health care providers?

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893658 MarkH Wed, 06 May 2009 01:33:58 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893658 <p>We’re already paying twice to three times what we should. I’d say they’re getting enough and they should cover everybody in the country while cutting their costs.</p> We’re already paying twice to three times what we should. I’d say they’re getting enough and they should cover everybody in the country while cutting their costs.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893655 MarkH Wed, 06 May 2009 01:30:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893655 <p>The problem is there are a handful of individuals for whom it worked great. The fact anybody benefits hugely while others are losing everything means our system is broken broken broken.</p> The problem is there are a handful of individuals for whom it worked great. The fact anybody benefits hugely while others are losing everything means our system is broken broken broken.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893654 MarkH Wed, 06 May 2009 01:26:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893654 <p>It would appear there was actually some interest in the bill and they had to work a lot of billable hours to pay off the right people or somehow convince them it was a bad idea to save working-class people’s homes, despite it being a wonderful idea to save rich people’s 2nd, 3rd and other homes.</p> It would appear there was actually some interest in the bill and they had to work a lot of billable hours to pay off the right people or somehow convince them it was a bad idea to save working-class people’s homes, despite it being a wonderful idea to save rich people’s 2nd, 3rd and other homes.

]]> By: meade http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893636 meade Wed, 06 May 2009 00:24:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893636 <p>Wow! It Looks like the bankers are getting great value for their money.<br /> How about we get something like that kind of return (from the banks) on our money?</p> Wow! It Looks like the bankers are getting great value for their money.
How about we get something like that kind of return (from the banks) on our money?

]]> By: bluementhol http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893546 bluementhol Tue, 05 May 2009 16:45:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893546 <p>Great research and great post. It’s truly remarkable how deeply invested the banks and financial sector is invested in Washington. What investment has such a great return? </p> <p>An added point: everyone talks about public financing for campaigns, but few talk about expanding lobbyist disclosure laws. Over at the <a href="http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/" rel="nofollow">Sunlight Foundation blog</a> we’ve been talking about new solutions for lobbyist disclosure and I’d hope that some people would like share their ideas. Here’s just some quick link-whoring, you read stuff <a href="http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/2009/03/20/apply-new-lobby-rules-across-the-board/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/2009/04/06/lobbying-disclosure-and-the-obama-memo/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/2009/04/07/a-vision-of-real-time-lobbying-disclosure/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/2009/04/24/should-we-increase-lobbying-disclosure-requirements-for-bailout-firms/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and <a href="http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/2009/04/30/they-frankly-own-the-place/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p> Great research and great post. It’s truly remarkable how deeply invested the banks and financial sector is invested in Washington. What investment has such a great return?

An added point: everyone talks about public financing for campaigns, but few talk about expanding lobbyist disclosure laws. Over at the Sunlight Foundation blog we’ve been talking about new solutions for lobbyist disclosure and I’d hope that some people would like share their ideas. Here’s just some quick link-whoring, you read stuff here, here, here, here, and here.

]]> By: Nola Sue http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893545 Nola Sue Tue, 05 May 2009 16:32:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893545 <p>And too bad the GOP has succeeded in keeping Franken out of this discussion. Off-shore loopholes has been a favorite topic of his and he might really make a difference</p> And too bad the GOP has succeeded in keeping Franken out of this discussion. Off-shore loopholes has been a favorite topic of his and he might really make a difference

]]> By: sadlyyes http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893542 sadlyyes Tue, 05 May 2009 16:14:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/05/over-42-million-paid-to-lobbyists-to-defeat-cramdown-in-1q-2009/#comment-1893542 <p>EGGGGGGGGGGS…..SALENT!!!!!!!!!</p> EGGGGGGGGGGS…..SALENT!!!!!!!!!

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