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	<title>Comments on: Thomas Friedman: Torture and Invading Iraq Have Prevented Another 9/11</title>
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		<title>By: Robt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/29/thomas-friedman-torture-and-invading-iraq-have-prevented-another-911/#comment-1890273</link>
		<dc:creator>Robt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I tend to disagree strongly with Thomas friedman of torture protecting America from another terrorist attack.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thomas doesn’t remember the Anthrax attacks.  They cleared congress?  Oh, but that was only sent to two Democratic party member in congress that happened to have alot of influence on issues like the patriot act.  Tom Dascle and Pat Lahey if I recall.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I imagine Thomas doesn’t count those road side bombs that killed Americans in Iraq.  Nah, those weren’t attacks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much of Americas wealth and treasure was flushed down the torture hole?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yet, if Thomas really feels this torture is good workable action to take in times of despair.  Why he doesn’t call for the torture of Wall Street Bankers is beyond me?  Just think of the theafts and crimes we could prevent in the future by torturing intell out of them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the Bush Adm,  we could find out what Cheney had in his man size safe in his office or what was arrainged at that secret energy meeting he had.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe Bush would tell us where he was getting the alcohol and drugs he was taking.  I Lewis “Scooter” Libby ( Inmate#28301-016 ) could have told Pat Fitzgerald the truth of the treasonous act of outing a covert agent.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Friedman, is there anything else that Hitler did that you would enjoy America using?  Bush and Cheney used torture out of fear and fear alone.  Because they were helpless in knowing what to do.  How else do you explain invading Iraq instead of Florida.  At least many of the 9/11 terrorist came from Florida.  They learned to fly there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to disagree strongly with Thomas friedman of torture protecting America from another terrorist attack.</p>
<p>Thomas doesn’t remember the Anthrax attacks.  They cleared congress?  Oh, but that was only sent to two Democratic party member in congress that happened to have alot of influence on issues like the patriot act.  Tom Dascle and Pat Lahey if I recall.</p>
<p>I imagine Thomas doesn’t count those road side bombs that killed Americans in Iraq.  Nah, those weren’t attacks.</p>
<p>How much of Americas wealth and treasure was flushed down the torture hole?</p>
<p>yet, if Thomas really feels this torture is good workable action to take in times of despair.  Why he doesn’t call for the torture of Wall Street Bankers is beyond me?  Just think of the theafts and crimes we could prevent in the future by torturing intell out of them.</p>
<p>And the Bush Adm,  we could find out what Cheney had in his man size safe in his office or what was arrainged at that secret energy meeting he had.</p>
<p>Maybe Bush would tell us where he was getting the alcohol and drugs he was taking.  I Lewis “Scooter” Libby ( Inmate#28301-016 ) could have told Pat Fitzgerald the truth of the treasonous act of outing a covert agent.</p>
<p>Mr Friedman, is there anything else that Hitler did that you would enjoy America using?  Bush and Cheney used torture out of fear and fear alone.  Because they were helpless in knowing what to do.  How else do you explain invading Iraq instead of Florida.  At least many of the 9/11 terrorist came from Florida.  They learned to fly there.</p>
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		<title>By: KCFIRE</title>
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		<dc:creator>KCFIRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Friedman’s tortured logic: I’m against torture unless the people we are torturing are bad.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friedman’s tortured logic: I’m against torture unless the people we are torturing are bad.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What can one expect from the author of a book entitled The Earth is Flat?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: tjbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>tjbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;After you are done vomiting go to    &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:public@nytimes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public@nytimes.com&lt;/a&gt;    to voice you’re belief that tom freeman should be removed for ethnic hate speech.&lt;br /&gt;
Good night all.&lt;br /&gt;
LP&amp; U&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After you are done vomiting go to    <a href="mailto:public@nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">public@nytimes.com</a>    to voice you’re belief that tom freeman should be removed for ethnic hate speech.<br />
Good night all.<br />
LP&amp; U</p>
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		<title>By: Zaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wrote like the longest blog post I’ve ever written about this crap.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ugaliberal.blogspot.com/2009/04/because-we-could-thomas-friedmans-sick.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ugaliberal.blogspot.com.....-sick.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote like the longest blog post I’ve ever written about this crap.</p>
<p><a href="http://ugaliberal.blogspot.com/2009/04/because-we-could-thomas-friedmans-sick.html" rel="nofollow">http://ugaliberal.blogspot.com&#8230;..-sick.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: paz3</title>
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		<dc:creator>paz3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s a defect in Friedman’s argument as ominous as a black hole in space:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not good at remembering names, but one of our intelligence pros recently stated that we lost about as many US armed personnel in Iraq as died in the 9/11 tragedy because of suicide bombers and other fighters who “signed up” because of &lt;strong&gt;torture at Abu Gharib and Guantanamo&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No one calls the guy on this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a defect in Friedman’s argument as ominous as a black hole in space:</p>
<p>I’m not good at remembering names, but one of our intelligence pros recently stated that we lost about as many US armed personnel in Iraq as died in the 9/11 tragedy because of suicide bombers and other fighters who “signed up” because of <strong>torture at Abu Gharib and Guantanamo</strong>.</p>
<p>No one calls the guy on this?</p>
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		<title>By: whataretheysmoking</title>
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		<dc:creator>whataretheysmoking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;don’t be surprised if he shorted the stock to make billions. the rich always have a way to get richer, even when the market is down.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don’t be surprised if he shorted the stock to make billions. the rich always have a way to get richer, even when the market is down.</p>
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		<title>By: tjbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>tjbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since the article brings up 9-11 and terror and government response.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gather round the campfire by the lake as I recall my living history.&lt;br /&gt;
Every generation comes upon their moment of truth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My generation’s  9-11 was in fact the Kennedy Assassination.&lt;br /&gt;
Then as now we were terrorized.&lt;br /&gt;
Then as now we witnessed murder in broad daylight.&lt;br /&gt;
The Kennedy’s were a bright youthful moment of promise much the same as the Obama’s.&lt;br /&gt;
The truth lie in the Zupruder film buried for many years. The clip show a head shot from the front.&lt;br /&gt;
Strange explanations started to surface before the blood was dry. First the assassination of the assassin in front of us on TV, in Police custody. After this came the lone gunman theory. Patsy nailed case closed. Opps someone proves with the radio time line, a cheap mail order  Mauser would demand a perfect three shots.( Notice how the amatuer pilots were perfect flying jets beyond their design limits for the first time each but they were perfect)Three hits from three shots became indefensible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Along comes arlin with a single bullet theory of a bullet jumping around in mid-air to answer the question how he could be the lone gunman.Don’t forget the front head shot that was never revealed in the evidence, a forth shot.&lt;br /&gt;
So there you have it how a commission isn’t the search for truth but the vehicle to derail the needed truth for the whole country.&lt;br /&gt;
And the key to the cover-up. The records were sealed for 90 years. At the FBI they call that a clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Now you couldn’t answer any  questions thanks to arlin’s magical bullet theory.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the article brings up 9-11 and terror and government response.</p>
<p>Gather round the campfire by the lake as I recall my living history.<br />
Every generation comes upon their moment of truth.</p>
<p>My generation’s  9-11 was in fact the Kennedy Assassination.<br />
Then as now we were terrorized.<br />
Then as now we witnessed murder in broad daylight.<br />
The Kennedy’s were a bright youthful moment of promise much the same as the Obama’s.<br />
The truth lie in the Zupruder film buried for many years. The clip show a head shot from the front.<br />
Strange explanations started to surface before the blood was dry. First the assassination of the assassin in front of us on TV, in Police custody. After this came the lone gunman theory. Patsy nailed case closed. Opps someone proves with the radio time line, a cheap mail order  Mauser would demand a perfect three shots.( Notice how the amatuer pilots were perfect flying jets beyond their design limits for the first time each but they were perfect)Three hits from three shots became indefensible.</p>
<p> Along comes arlin with a single bullet theory of a bullet jumping around in mid-air to answer the question how he could be the lone gunman.Don’t forget the front head shot that was never revealed in the evidence, a forth shot.<br />
So there you have it how a commission isn’t the search for truth but the vehicle to derail the needed truth for the whole country.<br />
And the key to the cover-up. The records were sealed for 90 years. At the FBI they call that a clue.<br />
Now you couldn’t answer any  questions thanks to arlin’s magical bullet theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/29/thomas-friedman-torture-and-invading-iraq-have-prevented-another-911/#comment-1890000</link>
		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thomas Friedman is a deeply ridiculous man.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to top it off, he’s a putz, too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thomas Friedman is a deeply ridiculous man.</p>
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<p>And to top it off, he’s a putz, too.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Attackerman is front-paged!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/29/stress-positions-sleep-deprivation-and-category-errors-a-former-sere-instructors-perspective/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stress Positions, Sleep Deprivation and Category Errors: A Former SERE Instructor’s Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attackerman is front-paged!<br /><a href="http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/29/stress-positions-sleep-deprivation-and-category-errors-a-former-sere-instructors-perspective/" rel="nofollow">Stress Positions, Sleep Deprivation and Category Errors: A Former SERE Instructor’s Perspective</a></p>
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