AMEN INDEED

Awesome video and great smackdown.

if they dont investigate ,and prosecute…………..than OPEN WIDE THE ALL PRISON GATES…its really that simple

If George Will were truly concerned about the lack of “comity” in DeeCee, he’d be calling out McConnell, Boehner, Limpballs, etc.

Have you ever noticed how fat chance and slim chance mean the same thing?

Obama’s first big piece of legislation got zero GOP House votes. How much less comity can there be in DC?

If anyone captured Matthew Dowd’s comments in full I would like to see it. On this clip he seems to be accusing Democrats, or referring to their complicity. Is there more?

De-politicizing the torture investigation is very important. George Will and the war criminal Ari Fleischer think they can scare us by talking about Nancy Pelosi’s “approval” of war crimes. That doesn’t scare me, and I don’t think it scares Nancy Pelosi, either.

As far as discomfort is concerned, that cannot be the measure of a country’s willingness to investigate its sordid criminal past. Would we have others do it for us? Because you know they will.

The “rule of law” was a conservative “core value” prior to January 1981, when it went into hibernation for 12 years.
It emerged like a herpes virus from January 1993 to January 2001, but has been in remission for the last 8 years, so we need to have some understanding that at this point the conservatives are a bit rusty on the concept of the rule of law….

Shorter Will: If the top of the pyramid does it, it’s not illegal.

That video is as good an illustration of the Beltway’s belief that there is a pyramid of non-accountability in America, that the higher you go on that pyramid, the less accountable you become.

As for prosecuting lawyers? Spare me. George Will would have us forget [John] Mitchell, Richard Kleindienst — lawyers at the top of the legal pyramid — and many other Nixon lawyers who went to jail for using their legal positions to conspire/sanction/further criminal activity and obstruct criminal/judicial investigations. Moving the legal profession back into the “rule of law” base would do wonders for America and the profession. Wouldn’t hurt with banksters, either.

That reminds me of Martha Mitchell. She made a lot of repugs uncomfortable. She liked to talk and knew way too much.

There was more. His main argument was low Broder: this is about vengeance. His/Will’s argument about Democrats was a threat. Good for Brazile for saying, “so what? It’s the rule of law that matters.”

Senior NYT political correspondent, David Sanger, provided no help in this discussion.

Nice comment from Krugman’s blog of 4/24 on the “sensible” media’s lack of objection to and cheerleading for W’s trying to link Iraq and 9/11 in the run-up to the war:

For me and many others that was a radicalizing experience; I’ll never trust “sensible” opinion again. But for those who stayed “sensible” through the test, it’s a moment they’d like to see forgotten. That, I believe, is the real reason so many want to let torture and everything else go down the memory hole.

Let’s hope that doesn’t happen.

No doubt this includes Will…

Too bad Donna didn’t actually turn him over and spank him. He could use it :-)

Funniest part of that would be seeing his wig fall off

John Mitchell

Will’s faux concern for “comity” — the man should be forced to watch Fox News and compile a list of all of the characterizations of Obama as a threat to the nation, a socialist, a fascist, a third-world dictator, destroying the country, exposing us to terrorists, and on and on.

It’s not just near-unanimous no votes on everything that needs to be done and their holding up worthwhile nominees like Sebelius and Dawn Johnsen. They’re in a rhetorical and violence-inducing war against an Administration they are trying to make fail, but George Will thinks there’s some “comity” to be preserved?

Oops, yes.

And just for fun

Henry Paulson was John Ehrlichman’s assistant in 1972 and 1973.[1]

“Our government teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.”LD.Brandeis

Where was George Will during the Clinton impeachment?

he wears a rug?now that would be real disclosure

Martha used to lock herself in the bathroom in her apartment — at the Watergate! — and call a reporter at the old Washington Star whose name escapes me. She’d talk for hours about all the dirty deals she knew about while her husband the Attorney General pounded on the door. Finally, as she started to talk about “injections” they were giving her to keep her quiet and calm, they took her off to a “facility.”

Best Martha Mitchell quote, as she left the Kennedy Center and asked her opinion of the performance by a society reporter: “Don’t miss it if you can.”

Donna was the closest thing we had to a real Liberal representing those of us they accuse of wanting nothing more than revenge against Bush on any of the channels. While we would all feel vindicated if Bush was prosecuted that is not our number 1 goal. We should of been represented if they are going vilify us as nothing more than a Lynch mob. So how do we get that kind of representation ?

And there it is, the true legacy of Richard Nixon:

Nixon Administration: Training Crooks for the next fifty years of governance

Let’s see, “comity” versus “torture.” There’s no better way of unveiling the craven soullessness and moral collapse of the elite.

Donna Brazile sometimes (often?) disappoints in her kowtowing to elite Village opinion, but I think she has gained strength today. I believe that the efforts of Professor Turley and Lawrence O’Donnell provide a template for others, like Donna, who seek a way to counter the war criminal enablers.

We must start calling them war criminals and war crime enablers. There is simply no other name for what is happening here in America.

Oh yeah I noticed right away and had a visceral reaction. I can’t remember the specific comment but it struck me as so politically motivated I was stunned that it came from a “journalist.”

He states those on the left want to “punish people” and that the dems knew it all. Here’s the video… it starts about the 15:00 mark.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7432857

I wished she had done this to him…

http://agentgenius.com/wp-cont…..1/kick.gif

Americans would have applauded her! I’d still be clapping.

It is either that or he goes to the hairdresser and says I want my hair to look like I’m wearing a rug.

I don’t care if the pyramid goes all the way to the Pope, the rule of law is for all parties. Big and Small, powerful or weak, politically connected or unconnected. If the rule of law was important enough to impeach a President for lying under oath about sex, is not ordering someone to commit a war crime important enough to not ignore?

Those poll numbers are very discouraging, it shows the majority of our fellow citizens don’t want justice.

Maybe it is that they don’t know what justice is

another great fear of Lois D. Brandeis

“We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both.”

the tut-tutters

suckin his own unit

Or maybe we just haven’t framed it in terms they understand or will accept yet. They still respond to the “fear factor” that the rethugs exploited so mercilessly. But, we have seen with the economic meltdown that “the people” do respond when issues are framed very fundamentally: the bosses get away with anything and the peons are left to clean up the messes. I’m not so sure it would be that difficult to ensure that our legitimate horror at the constitutional and moral are melded with that message. At this point, I’m not so pure as to care if different messages drive “the people” to the same conclusion: the need for a special prosecutor to investigate war crimes against the previous administration.

I’m confused. How can George Will argue that investigations and or prosecutions of high Bush officials would be bad for the country and then agree that the overriding issue is the rule of law? If he’s saying that enforcing the rule of law would be too destructive, isn’t he making the case that there is something MORE important than enforcing the rule of law? By bemoaning the consequences of enforcing the rule of law, isn’t he in effect arguing that high Bush officials are above the rule of law because holding them accountable would be too damaging a price to pay? Where is there any intellectual honesty in implying that there are reasons WHY we SHOULDN’T WANT TO ENFORCE THE RULE OF LAW?

Don’t believe it. Look into who did the poll, and for whom. How the question was worded. Methodology. The Villagers want us to be discouraged, so we’ll back off.

George Will dreams of what’s in that headline.

Hilarious.

The problem is that people listen to George Will. Not everyone thinks about what they see in the news and on current affairs shows, and they trust that if someone like Will has that many gigs as a talking head, he must know what he’s talking about.

I agree with Teddy Partridge. The contribution that the netroots can make is unwaveringly using the strongest language, and using it about the Wills as well as about the Bybees and Yoos. Will and crew are not just retroactively giving cover to war crimes, they are enabling further crimes.

They all conspired to commit torture and are as guilty as those who poured the water.

* United States Code
o TITLE 18 – CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
+ PART I – CRIMES
# CHAPTER 113C – TORTURE

U.S. Code as of: 01/19/04
Section 2340A. Torture

(a) Offense. – Whoever outside the United States commits or
attempts to commit torture shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both, and if death results to
any person from conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be
punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
(b) Jurisdiction. – There is jurisdiction over the activity
prohibited in subsection (a) if -
(1) the alleged offender is a national of the United States; or
(2) the alleged offender is present in the United States,
irrespective of the nationality of the victim or alleged
offender.

(c) Conspiracy. – A person who conspires to commit an offense
under this section shall be subject to the same penalties (other
than the penalty of death) as the penalties prescribed for the
offense, the commission of which was the object of the conspiracy.

“WE CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH” !!!!!
Screams Will with his hands over his ears

We would perhaps have been better off if it were Pat Paulson.