Comments on: Obama Chooses Health Care Reform Over Fake Bipartisanship

By: ratcityreprobate

ratcityreprobate — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:38:23 +0000

By removing the threat of a filibuster, the position of the House is greatly strengthened in dealing with the Senate in Conference Committee. Unlike the Stimulus Conference Committee, where Nelson and Collins used the filibuster to batter House negotiators into accepting the Senate version, Baucus and Conrad won’t have that club and will have to negotiate on equal footing with the House. The House version of Health Care will be far more progressive than whatever the Senate comes up with, so the final bill should also be more progressive.

By forcing Reconciliation on Health and Education, Obama was sending a message to Conrad, Nelson, Bayh, Lincoln and friends as much as to the Republicans. Conrad may be talking tough, but you can be sure he got schooled.

By: DrZen

DrZen — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:46:00 +0000

Jeezus, you guys are getting fucked hard. This is probably the only chance this generation to put a decent health system in place and you’ve been conned into electing a corporate shill who has no interest in doing it.

And what’s worse is that you are going to have the partisan brawl, the kicking, screaming and whining, all to bring in something the Republicans won’t much mind once it’s there.

By: jehzlau

jehzlau — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:02:38 +0000

That’s why I really hate Obama! but still, he’s our president.. wooot! :)

By: MarkH

MarkH — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:59:38 +0000

Sorry, remind me, who was calling for ‘revolutionary’ health care reform?

By: MarkH

MarkH — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:55:29 +0000

You have such a dark humor. Heh.

Oh Lord, save us from the whining and please return our brethren to their usual silliness. LOL

By: MarkH

MarkH — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:47:58 +0000

I don’t know what the final package will look like, but if you watched any of the Baucus hearing (round-table discussion) it appears there will be a lot of detail stuff aimed at improving service and cutting costs. I think I also heard him utter that it’s highly unlikely single-payer will come out of this Congress.

By: MarkH

MarkH — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:44:34 +0000

EFCA is important, but it isn’t about huge dollars like budgetary items and this health care reform. It also isn’t something Dems have fought to get for 50 years.

By: selise

selise — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:55:35 +0000

thanks. i’m going to wait until tomorrow to read it (see my comment @44 for why).

By: selise

selise — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:54:18 +0000

the other crap be accurately labeled as universal insurance.

it’s worse than that — that other crap is less than universal insurance.

and that’s not all. just read this over at kargro x’s place: Reconciliation danger to entitlements gains some currency

By: Dru

Dru — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:38:05 +0000

I wish the terminology universal healthcare could be reserved for single payer and the other crap be accurately labeled as universal insurance.