Based on that gut reaction, Musser is “not afraid to go the distance” to keep evil at bay—which, of course, means he, like most Republican mouthpieces out there, is pro-torture.
Mixed up in all of this are two possible windows on the soul of the Republican party and the principles that guided America’s so-called “war on terror” for the better part of eight years: Either they went with their pathetic yellow bellies—their gut—instead of going with their brains (possibly because they were too small to be functional), or they did use their brains, understood what torture would get them, and they were very content with that possibility. Either the general anti-science bent that permeated the Bush Administration caused them to discount the cold, hard, and oft-repeated fact that torture gets you unreliable information, or they knew what a reverse-engineered SERE battery would produce—a broken detainee open to producing anything the interrogator wanted in order to stop the pain—and were actively pursuing such a result.
Either ugly, or seriously uglier—you decide.
And what other gruesome conclusions can be drawn from this week’s parading pachyderms? See anything especially stomach-churning. . . anything else?



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The Republicans are evil. There can no longer be any doubt or debate. Only the most depraved and soullessly debauched could make the statements they have been making on TV.
all i see is ugly and uglier.
I guess it comes down to two kinds of people. People who only care about their own advancement in life and will step on anyone who gets in their way, including torturing them so that they can achieve their personal selfish financial, and ideological goals (i.e. terrorist personalities regardless of where they are from)…..or People who have respect for life on earth and a sense of a greater good.
Unfortunately, I think there are many other types of people who fall between those extremes. We cannot all be Dick Cheney or Mahatma Gandhi.
Manly men
(f/k/a boys will be boys)
Actually sounds rather like the onset of dysentery.
This is not the country I grew up in! These bastards have taken all that I held near and dear about my country and tore it all asunder and dragged it into depravity. Where are the moral standards that this country was built and lived on for neigh two Hundred plus years?? Trashed and run over in the gutter of slim and shit, how could anyone ever trust one of these people to ever hold the public trust and office. The more that comes out this week about the Bush/Cheney dictatorship the more I am sickened. If these bastards aren’t held accountable I will do everything in my wee bit of power to protest, write letters and in general make a pest of myself to our current crop of elected officials!
it sounds so benign – Elephants on Parade – i like elephants.
i got slightly over 1 minute into that video – i cannot watch.
i’m suggesting a new title, possibly -
Banana Republican Stampede
JHFC. Give. Me. A. Break.
This is like watching a psychotic episode progress in slow motion.
:-)
Isn’t “Elephants On Parade” a tune in a Dizzy animated film? Dumbo, perhaps?
Here there be monsters.
these forking banana republicans make me ill – and very very angry.
yup..
My favour-ite Dizzy film. Remember seeing in it the theatre when I was knee high to a grasshopper.
hi guy,
the thing of it is, our government has hardly been angelic from the getgo, but the last 8 years has ramped it up til it’s deafening. what i like about what’s coming out is that all this stuff we’ve known about since they stole into office IS starting to come out. it’ll no doubt get even more disturbing.
i want the bastards gone out of society. removed from being able to harm anyone else ever again. special prosecutor. no one else thinking they can ever do this sh*t again.
Noonan: “Just keep walking.”
Not simply the most revolting GOP styling on display for the week, perhaps the entire year. Or forever.
you called?
They are soulless monsters. There is simply no other explanation. We now know how Hitler turned ordinary decent people into a genocidal mob.
yup – me too.
i’ve been saying since at least 2003 that they’ve been using hitler’s playbook. another one of those situations where i’d rather be wrong.
Liz Cheney was particularly brazen. I was surprised at Norah’s quick thinking and responses, but I would dearly have loved to see Lawrence rip into her. The Dems need to put him on every television show that features a Republican apologist. Man.
The Dems might have been in the minority but most of them were just as guilty as the Republicans at enabling the Bush Administration’s abuses of power. We should be more grateful than ever to the handful who attempted to stop those abuses. Safe to say that group does not include any of the current leaders of the Democratic Party with the exception of Ted Kennedy.
i love that video – used it during the banana republican convention iirc
chupacabra
I say it’s time to rehabilitate Lynndie England and her fellow convicts (and by now ex-convicts) convicted of abusing detainees at Abu Ghraib. I recall in particular Rumsfeld’s towering indignation at the suggestion the accused were anything but rogue sadists. Justice ran over their defense of “we were following orders”. Now President Obama has validated their defense, and decreed no one on the ground following orders will be held to account. If not CIA agents waterboarding and slamming bodies against walls, why Lynndie England holding leashes, and teasing and posing? She, and they, are due reversal of conviction, apology, and restitution.
Actually thinking Darth Cheney.
I can remember when Banana Republicans actually contributed something of merit.
They all deserve punishment. Orders or not, that was depraved behavior and I am ashamed of it for my country. I would like to see Janis Karpinski questioning Rummy in the dock, however.
hahahahaha i remember watching that show
Can’t say that I am old enough to remember Teddy Roosevelt, but I do remember when they weren’t all batshit crazy and totally morally depraved. (Only partially depraved and completely wrong about everything).
Everett Dirksen would not recognize today’s GOP.
nor would teddy r or lincoln.
Dirksen was only 40 years ago, though.
He could be COMPLETELY wrong however, he was one of the Senates strongest supporters of the Vietnam War, although he complained that it was costing the U.S. $1.5 million per day. Wonder what he’d have to say about the cost of the Iraq occupation?
oh yes… Col. Karpinski might have something to offer.
In my youth there were a number of decent, moderate Republicans. All far too corporate for my taste and all too hawkish on foreign policy, but fundamentally decent. Nothing like that in sight since Ronnie RayGunz.
moyers is not to be missed tonight – is about the pecora commision in the 30’s – the investigation into the causes of The Great Depression.
I’m fading so off to bed. Take care all.
g’nite dr dick
The modern parties haven’t elevated style over substance, with the exception of some increasingly rare individuals, they’ve eliminated substance entirely.
Night, Dr.
Banned for life times and life times!!
it is all about incumbency protection, campaign donations, and social networking. the forkers don’t give a damn about anything else – much less governing.
Hiya Firepups!
Phil Musser isn’t the only one. I can also spot evildoers and morally bankrupt people just by walking thru a crowd. Strangely, they always turn out to be Republicans of the Limbaugh/Coulter/Bachmann persuasion.
hey ndfg
I think that was largely true in the past. The difference is back then they seemed to think they had to occasionally deliver something of merit or the voters would throw them out on their ear. Now they prefer to simply keep us baffled by bullshit.
Any detainees who didn’t hate Americans before they were picked up certainly do now. Doubt if Musser got many thumbs up while touring Gitmo.
I’m out. Have a splendid weekend (if anyone is still around).
Always lurking
g’night, ratfood. Have a good weekend yourself!
nite ratfoog have a great weekend(:>))
I spent some time today with Senator Grassley at a funeral of his long time friend and aide. Altho I have disagreed with him vehemently and have called him many times at Redd’s behest, I consider him an honorable man.Even us DFH’s in Iowa respect him.
g’nite ratfood
DrBong,
We have not met, but I feel I know you.
So… how do you spot em?
Flag pins and big hair?
I wish that you would send this exact message to the WH. Well said.
That’s easy… I’m the one who thinks that of every 100 or so souls whose path you might cross in a day’s time, maybe, just maybe, 1 or 2 are TRULY good souls. I find good souls here, consistently. I’m not terribly good with words, so my comments are infrequent, but I am here more often than not.
Oh, and I don’t have a life.
;~P
sunny, those clues sure help. And the mean, sour expressions are another indicator *g*
One of my friends volunteers at an animal rescue/shelter booth at the Minnesota State Fair. And the state fair is usually full of politicians booths, with lots of handouts. So it’s kinda easy to spot political orientation. And she’s noticed that it tends to be people with Dem/progressive literature who stop, ask questions, give money. The Rethugs frown, maybe ask questions, always act hostile and NEVER give money (not to help frikkin animals anyhow).
Late night here. Mr. CE and his museum sponsored over 350 people for the Cleveland meeting for the American Association for the History of Medicine.
wow, CE, that sounds impressive!
I think that you do have a life here with us. I’m always looking for good souls. And I’m a librarian (mean bitch).
Why thank you Twain. I do feel that way about what has happened. So many gave so much for our country and now look what has happened to the reputation and Moral that they fought so hard to preserve for future generations. We owe to them to make so much noise what was done that the powers in charge have no choice But to bring Justice to these criminals.
i’ve been known to go from zero to bitch in 2.4 nanoseconds.
Mr. CE and I are really tired, but the meeting was such a success!
Speaking of not having a life, good evening, all-
Oh, my dear Suzanne,
Heh, heh, wish you could see me in action. But, I am also a lamb…
hey rond
It’s a tough journey. A look in the eye doesn’t always work.
Cold shower time folks, nite nite
;~P
g’nite dr bong
Nite Suzanne,
Two more days of conference.
g’nite christine e
We ALL have that side to us, but what you do with is what counts. Let me see red and watch out but I have learned to control that much better after my X. I leave before I will allow anyone to get me that out of control..
Guess those poor animals should be assuming personal responsibility.
Are right to lifers anti-spay? Haven’t mastered this exceptionalism thing yet.
off to eat dinner and finish Nixonland – hope to have it finished before Book Salon tomorrow.
g’nite all
i’m not sure about anti-spay, tho i am sure about the anti-gay. I do love asking them if they eat scrambled unborn chickens for breakfast.
Nite suz. Sweet dreams.
LOL..
‘night, Suzanne. I’m back to the digital/academic salt mines. End of the semester, and all that.
I’ll be lurking…
Yeah… they are really evil!!! LOL!
the last time i checked, ms. england was an unemployed single mother, and her child’s father was in prison. that’s your future under a banana republican regime.
damn right she should have her reputation rehabilitated. gen. janice karpinski, too. if he’s serious about this ‘looking forward’ noise.