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	<title>Comments on: FBI Zubaydah Interrogator Calls George Bush a Liar: &#8220;No Actionable Intelligence Gained from Using Enhanced Interrogation Techniques&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this was from 2006. Interesting memo mention from 2002 near end.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/05/AR2006010501902_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....02_pf.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was from 2006. Interesting memo mention from 2002 near end.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/05/AR2006010501902_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..02_pf.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: emerson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/#comment-1885850</link>
		<dc:creator>emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and anytime Bush &amp; Cheney needed to find some balls, Addington shows up. Torture hits his sweet spot. When this all comes spewing out, Addington will be a major orchestrator of the pain plan.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and anytime Bush &amp; Cheney needed to find some balls, Addington shows up. Torture hits his sweet spot. When this all comes spewing out, Addington will be a major orchestrator of the pain plan.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/#comment-1885847</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think what’s missing is that Rahm &amp; Co., including Reidless Harry, are trying to avoid investigations, so there’s nothing yet to cooperate with.  Which suggests there’s no one to whom to disclose what these people know.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whistleblowers talking ahead of the political will to hear them face enormous obstacles, not to mention an as yet unreliable administration that hasn’t shown it has the stomach to support them.  Dawn Johnsen hasn’t been approved yet at OLC and Hans von Spakovsky’s old haunts at DoJ haven’t demonstrated they’ve been resuscitated yet either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what’s missing is that Rahm &amp; Co., including Reidless Harry, are trying to avoid investigations, so there’s nothing yet to cooperate with.  Which suggests there’s no one to whom to disclose what these people know.  </p>
<p>Whistleblowers talking ahead of the political will to hear them face enormous obstacles, not to mention an as yet unreliable administration that hasn’t shown it has the stomach to support them.  Dawn Johnsen hasn’t been approved yet at OLC and Hans von Spakovsky’s old haunts at DoJ haven’t demonstrated they’ve been resuscitated yet either.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/#comment-1885801</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah no shit.  “Hi I work for the State Department, and in the course of my work day I embezzled $50 million dollars, and now they want it back.  I expect the government to pay my legal expenses.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah no shit.  “Hi I work for the State Department, and in the course of my work day I embezzled $50 million dollars, and now they want it back.  I expect the government to pay my legal expenses.”</p>
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		<title>By: tjbs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/#comment-1885778</link>
		<dc:creator>tjbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We knew they were torturing and they let out just enough to shut up the entire country for eight years while they made a killing off the killing.&lt;br /&gt;
Notice they’re not able to sell there hate and fear anymore.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next false flag op will destroy this country completely.&lt;br /&gt;
People will line up to torture the pseudo bad guys again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We knew they were torturing and they let out just enough to shut up the entire country for eight years while they made a killing off the killing.<br />
Notice they’re not able to sell there hate and fear anymore.</p>
<p>Next false flag op will destroy this country completely.<br />
People will line up to torture the pseudo bad guys again.</p>
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		<title>By: Fern</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/#comment-1885750</link>
		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Checked some German news sources and haven’t seen anything there yet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checked some German news sources and haven’t seen anything there yet.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/#comment-1885720</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Will Paul Krugman get an apology from the Times, for directing him not to use the word “liar” in the same column as the words “Bush” or “Cheney”?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Paul Krugman get an apology from the Times, for directing him not to use the word “liar” in the same column as the words “Bush” or “Cheney”?</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/#comment-1885714</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Then there’s this bit of news, from an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2009/4/21/the_story_of_mitchell_jessen_associates&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amy Goodman interview with Mark Benjamin&lt;/a&gt; from Salon.com:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Attorney General has announced that not only that, the government will pay the legal fees for anybody who is brought up on any charges anywhere in the world or has to go before Congress. They will be provided attorneys.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Innocent until proven guilty” is the centuries old standard we’re trying to work out way back to.  At some point in an investigation, however, it becomes clear that the government and its current or former employees have a conflict of interest and continuing to provide legal advice or representation is wholly inappropriate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In that interview with Amy Goodman, Benjamin points out something discussed here.  That Obama seems to be giving (qualified) cover to a whole group of potential witnesses or wrongdoers without getting anything in return.  At a minimum, the &lt;em&gt;quid pro quo&lt;/em&gt; should be full disclosure and cooperation in government inquiries.  That he hasn’t apparently asked for such things suggest he’s still hoping no one will notice that three-foot mound of dust under his carpet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there’s this bit of news, from an <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/4/21/the_story_of_mitchell_jessen_associates" rel="nofollow">Amy Goodman interview with Mark Benjamin</a> from Salon.com:</p>
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<p>The Attorney General has announced that not only that, the government will pay the legal fees for anybody who is brought up on any charges anywhere in the world or has to go before Congress. They will be provided attorneys.</p>
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<p>“Innocent until proven guilty” is the centuries old standard we’re trying to work out way back to.  At some point in an investigation, however, it becomes clear that the government and its current or former employees have a conflict of interest and continuing to provide legal advice or representation is wholly inappropriate.</p>
<p>In that interview with Amy Goodman, Benjamin points out something discussed here.  That Obama seems to be giving (qualified) cover to a whole group of potential witnesses or wrongdoers without getting anything in return.  At a minimum, the <em>quid pro quo</em> should be full disclosure and cooperation in government inquiries.  That he hasn’t apparently asked for such things suggest he’s still hoping no one will notice that three-foot mound of dust under his carpet.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/#comment-1885707</link>
		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whoops!  I mispoke.  They just mentioned it.  The dam broke.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!  I mispoke.  They just mentioned it.  The dam broke.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;None of this has hit the French press yet, which surprises me.  I’m listening to France-Inter right now (8 pm edition), and not a whisper, which means it probably wasn’t in the Monde today (I didn’t pick it up). This story will get legs when the European press pick it up.  To my knowledge, they haven’t yet.  Probably too terrible, and probably because they want to be very sure it’s true before they jump in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this has hit the French press yet, which surprises me.  I’m listening to France-Inter right now (8 pm edition), and not a whisper, which means it probably wasn’t in the Monde today (I didn’t pick it up). This story will get legs when the European press pick it up.  To my knowledge, they haven’t yet.  Probably too terrible, and probably because they want to be very sure it’s true before they jump in.</p>
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