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	<title>Comments on: Can&#8217;t Ship Out Those Green Jobs</title>
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		<title>By: Robt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/cant-ship-out-those-green-jobs/#comment-1886251</link>
		<dc:creator>Robt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can’t ship out those Green jobs but they can bring in the H-1b visa’a for those jobs that Americans won’t do.  They also have illegal immigration to abuse and force down living standards and wages.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Notice they didn’t pass that little piece called “buy American” in the Stimulus?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, where do you think the “High Speed Rails” are coming from?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aren’t they being made by foriegn companies and imported?   Of course Americans are to stupid and lazy to manufacture and engineer these sort of items.  Hey, Republicans say so it must be true.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can’t ship out those Green jobs but they can bring in the H-1b visa’a for those jobs that Americans won’t do.  They also have illegal immigration to abuse and force down living standards and wages.</p>
<p>Notice they didn’t pass that little piece called “buy American” in the Stimulus?</p>
<p>So, where do you think the “High Speed Rails” are coming from?  </p>
<p>Aren’t they being made by foriegn companies and imported?   Of course Americans are to stupid and lazy to manufacture and engineer these sort of items.  Hey, Republicans say so it must be true.</p>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/cant-ship-out-those-green-jobs/#comment-1885900</link>
		<dc:creator>amberglow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and promoting coal is not green in any way — &lt;strong&gt;there’s no such thing as clean coal.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and promoting coal is not green in any way — <strong>there’s no such thing as clean coal.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: kevsters</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/cant-ship-out-those-green-jobs/#comment-1885896</link>
		<dc:creator>kevsters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a little off the mark for this post, but I just had to comment.  On my own blog I recently commented about the Republicans and their opposition to a cap and trade system.  The reason given is that they feel it will cost too much, which simply isn’t true.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These same Republicans have also railed against Obama’s stimulus plan, saying that it burdens the next generation with too much debt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now at some point we are going to have to transition from fossil fuels to renewables, and that will cost money (preferably big business, and not the consumer).  Since it is an inevitability that we are going to have to transition, shouldn’t these conservatives want to transition now, and prevent that cost from being passed on to the next generation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is my post…Tell me what you think.  Or if you are opposed to links, just comment here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.progessnotcongress.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.progessnotcongress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a little off the mark for this post, but I just had to comment.  On my own blog I recently commented about the Republicans and their opposition to a cap and trade system.  The reason given is that they feel it will cost too much, which simply isn’t true.  </p>
<p>These same Republicans have also railed against Obama’s stimulus plan, saying that it burdens the next generation with too much debt.</p>
<p>Now at some point we are going to have to transition from fossil fuels to renewables, and that will cost money (preferably big business, and not the consumer).  Since it is an inevitability that we are going to have to transition, shouldn’t these conservatives want to transition now, and prevent that cost from being passed on to the next generation?</p>
<p>Here is my post…Tell me what you think.  Or if you are opposed to links, just comment here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.progessnotcongress.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.progessnotcongress.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
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		<dc:creator>amberglow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;unless all grants and laws and funding — and the stimulus — include mandated purchase of domestic equipment, most green jobs will simply be installing foreign-made products — as it is now. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Existing workers can do that and do do that now — and more jobs have &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; been created where utility companies have installed solar or wind equipment (as in Texas).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;becoming energy independent does not in itself create green jobs — manufacturing and installing and maintaining and upgrading with only domestically-manufactured products can.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unless all grants and laws and funding — and the stimulus — include mandated purchase of domestic equipment, most green jobs will simply be installing foreign-made products — as it is now. </p>
<p>Existing workers can do that and do do that now — and more jobs have <strong>not</strong> been created where utility companies have installed solar or wind equipment (as in Texas).</p>
<p>becoming energy independent does not in itself create green jobs — manufacturing and installing and maintaining and upgrading with only domestically-manufactured products can.</p>
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		<title>By: beyondgreen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/cant-ship-out-those-green-jobs/#comment-1885858</link>
		<dc:creator>beyondgreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There could be no better investment in  than to invest in  becoming energy independent! We need to utilize everything in out power to reduce our dependence on foreign oil including using our own natural resources.Create cheap clean energy,new badly needed green jobs and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.The high cost of fuel this past year seriously damaged our economy and society.The cost of fuel effects every facet of consumer goods from production to shipping costs.It costs the equivalent of 60 cents per gallon to charge and drive an electric car.If all gasoline cars,trucks, and SUV’s instead had plug-in electric drive trains the amount of electricity needed to replace gasoline is about equal to the estimated wind energy potential of the state of N.D.We have so much available to us such as wind and solar.Let’s spend some of those bail out billions and get busy harnessing this energy. Create cheap clean energy, badly needed new jobs and reduce our dependence on foreign oil. What a win-win situation that would be for our nation at large! I just read  a really good new book out by Jeff Wilson called The Manhattan Project of 2009 Energy Independence Now. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themanhattanprojectof2009.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.themanhattanprojectof2009.com&lt;/a&gt;  Investing in energy independence would positively impact our economy and futures.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There could be no better investment in  than to invest in  becoming energy independent! We need to utilize everything in out power to reduce our dependence on foreign oil including using our own natural resources.Create cheap clean energy,new badly needed green jobs and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.The high cost of fuel this past year seriously damaged our economy and society.The cost of fuel effects every facet of consumer goods from production to shipping costs.It costs the equivalent of 60 cents per gallon to charge and drive an electric car.If all gasoline cars,trucks, and SUV’s instead had plug-in electric drive trains the amount of electricity needed to replace gasoline is about equal to the estimated wind energy potential of the state of N.D.We have so much available to us such as wind and solar.Let’s spend some of those bail out billions and get busy harnessing this energy. Create cheap clean energy, badly needed new jobs and reduce our dependence on foreign oil. What a win-win situation that would be for our nation at large! I just read  a really good new book out by Jeff Wilson called The Manhattan Project of 2009 Energy Independence Now. <a href="http://www.themanhattanprojectof2009.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.themanhattanprojectof2009.com</a>  Investing in energy independence would positively impact our economy and futures.</p>
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		<title>By: billybugs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/cant-ship-out-those-green-jobs/#comment-1885851</link>
		<dc:creator>billybugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Electric cars are the future!&lt;br /&gt;
GM should continue with plans to build the Volt, an earlier generation electric car GM produced called the EV 1 was a huge success.&lt;br /&gt;
Once people see the advantages to driving electric (no tune ups, oil changes, no belts, hoses or anti- freeze and best of all, no trips to the gas station )they will never go back to gas.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric cars are the future!<br />
GM should continue with plans to build the Volt, an earlier generation electric car GM produced called the EV 1 was a huge success.<br />
Once people see the advantages to driving electric (no tune ups, oil changes, no belts, hoses or anti- freeze and best of all, no trips to the gas station )they will never go back to gas.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/cant-ship-out-those-green-jobs/#comment-1885844</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who knew the Unions were full of DFHs?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knew the Unions were full of DFHs?</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/cant-ship-out-those-green-jobs/#comment-1885843</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;unions - looking out for the worker, the economy, and the environment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks tula.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unions &#8211; looking out for the worker, the economy, and the environment.</p>
<p>thanks tula.</p>
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