Comments on: The Torture Shrink: What Does James Mitchell Know, and What Will He Tell Us Under Oath? http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:17:33 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: whitewidow http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885654 whitewidow Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:28:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885654 <p>Not only that, it appears they formed a business basically to sell using torture, so they could get the contract teaching the techniques.</p> <p>Spencer has an excellent post up on this.</p> <blockquote><p>But is it too cynical to suggest that Mitchell also had an interest in saying that Soufan and the FBI’s (and apparently, in part, CIA’s) non-brutal techniques failed? From page 24 of the Senate Armed Services Committee report:</p> <p> Subsequent from his retirement from DoD [the Department of Defense], Dr. Jessen joined Dr. Mitchell and other former JPRA [Joint Personnel Recovery Agency, which oversees SERE] officials to form a company called Mitchell Jessen & Associates. Mitchell Jessen & Associates is co-owned by seven individuals, six of whom either worked for JPRA or one of the service SERE schools as employees and/or contractors. As of July 2007, the company had between 55 and 60 employees, several of whom were former JPRA employees.</p></blockquote> Not only that, it appears they formed a business basically to sell using torture, so they could get the contract teaching the techniques.

Spencer has an excellent post up on this.

But is it too cynical to suggest that Mitchell also had an interest in saying that Soufan and the FBI’s (and apparently, in part, CIA’s) non-brutal techniques failed? From page 24 of the Senate Armed Services Committee report:

Subsequent from his retirement from DoD [the Department of Defense], Dr. Jessen joined Dr. Mitchell and other former JPRA [Joint Personnel Recovery Agency, which oversees SERE] officials to form a company called Mitchell Jessen & Associates. Mitchell Jessen & Associates is co-owned by seven individuals, six of whom either worked for JPRA or one of the service SERE schools as employees and/or contractors. As of July 2007, the company had between 55 and 60 employees, several of whom were former JPRA employees.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885474 MarkH Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:29:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885474 <p>Just a coincidence. You do believe in coincidences don’t you?</p> Just a coincidence. You do believe in coincidences don’t you?

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885472 MarkH Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:25:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885472 <p>Did they have a working display? Maybe a video of their techniques in practice?</p> <p>Traditional family values all the way down.</p> Did they have a working display? Maybe a video of their techniques in practice?

Traditional family values all the way down.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885470 MarkH Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:19:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885470 <p>Anarchist!</p> Anarchist!

]]> By: DeadLast http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885417 DeadLast Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:36:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885417 <p>Bybee and Mitchell and Jesson have <a href="http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/4848" rel="nofollow">a connection</a>. And even in 2002, their colleagues was calling their actions criminal.</p> Bybee and Mitchell and Jesson have a connection. And even in 2002, their colleagues was calling their actions criminal.

]]> By: ubetchaiam http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885410 ubetchaiam Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:28:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885410 <p><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/4/21/the_story_of_mitchell_jessen_associates" rel="nofollow">Amy had a great interview on this subject yesterday.</a></p> Amy had a great interview on this subject yesterday.

]]> By: PPDCUS http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885374 PPDCUS Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:40:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885374 <p>Sounds like the same turf warfare that 4th Branch Cheney exploited to feed his raison e’tate prime directive - restoring Nixon’s subversion of the Constitution.</p> <p>And while they were implementing The Plan behind closed doors, 9/11 fell into their laps like an Orwellian gift that keeps on giving, <a href="http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/bush-team-peddles-911-iraq-link-torture" rel="nofollow">endlessly</a>.</p> Sounds like the same turf warfare that 4th Branch Cheney exploited to feed his raison e’tate prime directive – restoring Nixon’s subversion of the Constitution.

And while they were implementing The Plan behind closed doors, 9/11 fell into their laps like an Orwellian gift that keeps on giving, endlessly.

]]> By: TheraP http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885373 TheraP Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:36:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885373 <p>Isn’t it disgusting that torture became a “free enterprise” - where torture consultants could ply their wares in booths? Sick irony!</p> Isn’t it disgusting that torture became a “free enterprise” – where torture consultants could ply their wares in booths? Sick irony!

]]> By: nahant http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885372 nahant Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:24:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885372 <p>The baby killers are few and far between. Most soldiers are good people and would logve to have a beer with ya!</p> The baby killers are few and far between. Most soldiers are good people and would logve to have a beer with ya!

]]> By: nahant http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885371 nahant Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:19:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/the-torture-shrink-what-does-james-mitchell-know-and-what-will-he-tell-us-under-oath/#comment-1885371 <p>I knew someone in the CIA(deceased recently) who told me many “Stories” but never was there any mention of enhanced interrogation but quite the contrary they used rather humane methods. So I guess I would concur that Darth recruited like minded scum to do his dirty work. I wonder if Darth liked to watch the films that were taken of the torture. I bet he just loved them and served popcorn for “his” guests to watch.</p> I knew someone in the CIA(deceased recently) who told me many “Stories” but never was there any mention of enhanced interrogation but quite the contrary they used rather humane methods. So I guess I would concur that Darth recruited like minded scum to do his dirty work. I wonder if Darth liked to watch the films that were taken of the torture. I bet he just loved them and served popcorn for “his” guests to watch.

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