Comments on: The Spitzer File Chronicles, Part 1: What Judge Rakoff Unsealed, Then and Now http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:31:53 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1885076 looseheadprop Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:21:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1885076 <p>Spitzer resigned , really, as fallout from his feud with Joe Bruno (the former NYS Senate Majority Leader) Bruno had the votes in the Senate to impeach Spitzer and the Emporor’s Club thing gave him the excuse to use them.</p> <p>Spitzer knew how to count votes and realized he was DOA, so he resigned to deprive Bruno the pleasure of the impeachment.</p> Spitzer resigned , really, as fallout from his feud with Joe Bruno (the former NYS Senate Majority Leader) Bruno had the votes in the Senate to impeach Spitzer and the Emporor’s Club thing gave him the excuse to use them.

Spitzer knew how to count votes and realized he was DOA, so he resigned to deprive Bruno the pleasure of the impeachment.

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1885067 looseheadprop Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:14:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1885067 <p>Sustained on appeal means that the appeals court agreed with the judge’s decision. Will try to get link fixed</p> Sustained on appeal means that the appeals court agreed with the judge’s decision. Will try to get link fixed

]]> By: posaune http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884818 posaune Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:07:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884818 <p>Can you imagine what we could find out with a corporate FOIA? I mean, all those banks and investment firms, using bailouts (even “temporarily”) should have to fork over their insider memos.</p> <p>Can you hear the wailing?</p> Can you imagine what we could find out with a corporate FOIA? I mean, all those banks and investment firms, using bailouts (even “temporarily”) should have to fork over their insider memos.

Can you hear the wailing?

]]> By: oldtree http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884816 oldtree Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:37:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884816 <p>What better way to ruin someone going after you? Make them look sleazier. But a hooker isn’t sleazy any more, it is common place. Why the hell did Spitzer resign? Was it extortion perhaps?</p> What better way to ruin someone going after you? Make them look sleazier. But a hooker isn’t sleazy any more, it is common place. Why the hell did Spitzer resign? Was it extortion perhaps?

]]> By: moistenedbink http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884780 moistenedbink Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:35:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884780 <p>Spitzer was definitely on the right track about the fraud on Wall St. That is why he was taken down. Not to condone his conduct especially when the banksters who are being bailed out where charging hookers to their corporate charge cards, but someone knew where he was vunerable and pulled the plug before he got too close. You don’t think all these boys at the top are watching each other? They get tripped up when they think they are smarter than the competition. They think they cover their tracks. Arrogance will do you in everytime.</p> Spitzer was definitely on the right track about the fraud on Wall St. That is why he was taken down. Not to condone his conduct especially when the banksters who are being bailed out where charging hookers to their corporate charge cards, but someone knew where he was vunerable and pulled the plug before he got too close. You don’t think all these boys at the top are watching each other? They get tripped up when they think they are smarter than the competition. They think they cover their tracks. Arrogance will do you in everytime.

]]> By: goldpearl http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884762 goldpearl Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:18:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884762 <p>call me crazy - but yesterday when the poll came out w/ the numbers for our current gov, (who replaced spitzer - patterson), i thought if spitzer were to run again, i would vote for him again. </p> <p>apparently i’m not alone. </p> <p>“In a hypothetical 2010 Democratic primary for Governor, Attorney General Andrew Cuomo has 64 percent support, compared to 11 percent for Paterson and eight percent for Nassau County Executive Tom Suozzi. In potential general election matchups, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani beats Paterson 56-29 percent (56-33 percent last month) and Giuliani beats Suozzi 50-31 percent. Andrew Cuomo increased his lead over Giuliani to 53-39 percent, up from 51-41 percent last month. </p> <p>“Voters are pining for the days of Mario Cuomo (39 percent) and George Pataki (33 percent) as Governor,” Greenberg said. “A plurality of Democrats and independent voters would choose Mario and a majority of<br /> Republicans chose George. <strong>While 14 percent of all voters want to see Spitzer back in the Capitol,</strong> only eight percent would opt to have Paterson as Governor if choosing among the last four to hold that office.” </p> <p><a href="http://staging.siena.edu/level2bcol.aspx?menu_id=562&id=15579" rel="nofollow">http://staging.siena.edu/level.....8;id=15579</a></p> <p>if rudy runs theres going to be some major organizing…..ny style</p> call me crazy – but yesterday when the poll came out w/ the numbers for our current gov, (who replaced spitzer – patterson), i thought if spitzer were to run again, i would vote for him again.

apparently i’m not alone.

“In a hypothetical 2010 Democratic primary for Governor, Attorney General Andrew Cuomo has 64 percent support, compared to 11 percent for Paterson and eight percent for Nassau County Executive Tom Suozzi. In potential general election matchups, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani beats Paterson 56-29 percent (56-33 percent last month) and Giuliani beats Suozzi 50-31 percent. Andrew Cuomo increased his lead over Giuliani to 53-39 percent, up from 51-41 percent last month.

“Voters are pining for the days of Mario Cuomo (39 percent) and George Pataki (33 percent) as Governor,” Greenberg said. “A plurality of Democrats and independent voters would choose Mario and a majority of
Republicans chose George. While 14 percent of all voters want to see Spitzer back in the Capitol, only eight percent would opt to have Paterson as Governor if choosing among the last four to hold that office.”

http://staging.siena.edu/level…..8;id=15579

if rudy runs theres going to be some major organizing…..ny style

]]> By: readerOfTeaLeaves http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884737 readerOfTeaLeaves Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:55:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884737 <p>One of the many excellent aspects of the 2007 movie “Michael Clayton” is the way that it shows privately hired detectives working on behalf of a large (polluting) corporation in what might be called ‘corporate espionage’. They answer to no one except the people who pay them. I’ve long assumed that Spitzer made enough enemies that he was surveilled by private interests, who probably had a ‘joint interest’ with one or more members of Bu$hCo.</p> <p>Spitzer’s conduct is hardly stellar; but the weirdness of the revelations and also the strangeness of its timing are very suspicious. One wonders if the ‘night janitor’ (or an IT person) was logging onto his computer at 2 am. The whole thing is weird. Given what’s occurred since he was politically smeared, it’s hard to believe he wasn’t onto someone’s trail. Big Time.</p> <p>Langdone is no doubt a pleasant person; very likely charming. But his claims that Spitzer is the only dark player in the tale is pathetic and whiny.</p> One of the many excellent aspects of the 2007 movie “Michael Clayton” is the way that it shows privately hired detectives working on behalf of a large (polluting) corporation in what might be called ‘corporate espionage’. They answer to no one except the people who pay them. I’ve long assumed that Spitzer made enough enemies that he was surveilled by private interests, who probably had a ‘joint interest’ with one or more members of Bu$hCo.

Spitzer’s conduct is hardly stellar; but the weirdness of the revelations and also the strangeness of its timing are very suspicious. One wonders if the ‘night janitor’ (or an IT person) was logging onto his computer at 2 am. The whole thing is weird. Given what’s occurred since he was politically smeared, it’s hard to believe he wasn’t onto someone’s trail. Big Time.

Langdone is no doubt a pleasant person; very likely charming. But his claims that Spitzer is the only dark player in the tale is pathetic and whiny.

]]> By: rapier http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884730 rapier Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:51:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884730 <p>Spitzer’s idiocy with the pros was monumental. Didn’t he know his ever word and action was likely to be seen, every word heard? If anyone should know that the all seeing eyes are now everywhere it should be the powerful insiders like him or now Harman. </p> <p>When the non scandal about the Democratic House computer hack trickled in and then out I kept thinking to myself what a bunch of naive fools. Some little rat fuck GOP aide is the least of your worries. Why don’t these people get it?</p> Spitzer’s idiocy with the pros was monumental. Didn’t he know his ever word and action was likely to be seen, every word heard? If anyone should know that the all seeing eyes are now everywhere it should be the powerful insiders like him or now Harman.

When the non scandal about the Democratic House computer hack trickled in and then out I kept thinking to myself what a bunch of naive fools. Some little rat fuck GOP aide is the least of your worries. Why don’t these people get it?

]]> By: Apphouse50 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884722 Apphouse50 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:46:47 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884722 <p>>>Also, what does sustained on appeal mean? The link provided reads like Chinese to me. </p><p>It means his decision was appealed and then upheld.</p> >>Also, what does sustained on appeal mean? The link provided reads like Chinese to me.

It means his decision was appealed and then upheld.

]]> By: Rayne http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884719 Rayne Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:43:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/the-spitzer-file-chronicles-part-1-what-judge-rakoff-unsealed-then-and-now/#comment-1884719 <p>Well, that shoots my theory right in the butt that the bank he used monitored his transfers using obscure Bush-era banking law…</p> <p>Unless they already knew about the Emperor’s Club and worked the other direction and met up with the money orders.</p> <p>How interesting none of this was in the complaint, either…</p> Well, that shoots my theory right in the butt that the bank he used monitored his transfers using obscure Bush-era banking law…

Unless they already knew about the Emperor’s Club and worked the other direction and met up with the money orders.

How interesting none of this was in the complaint, either…

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